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February 25, 2012 4:48:24 AM

OK so I have every other component ready to go. Crucial M4 SSD, 8gb DDR3, Antec 80+ Bronze PSU, etc. I had planned to buy an i5-2500k with a Gigabyte Z68 board for $230 + tax but apparently Microcenter doesn't offer that deal anymore. So these are the exact options I have.

The machine is being built for my parents. They do basic web browsing, office type work, watch movies, and possibly some video and music editing. I realize these cpus are all more than capable of handling that but I want something that is going to still perform well in 3 years. Basically I'm looking for the best performance for the dollar. And power consumption is a consideration but not a deal breaker.

All options have USB3 and SATA6 unless noted.


1. FX-4100 with ASRock board & hd6450 - $180.63

2. Intel i3-2125 (hd3000) with Gigabyte h61 - $187.50

3. A8-3850 with Gigabyte fm1 - $180

4. FX-8120 with Asus board & hd6450 - $233.75

-Hold over options (Use for about a year then upgrade to a nicer cpu and mobo, maybe next black friday):

5. FX-4100 with cheap Gigabyte board & hd6450 - no USB3 or SATA6 - $127.50

6. A4-3300 with cheap Gigabyte board - no USB3 or SATA6 - $100

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February 25, 2012 5:04:16 AM

2. Intel i3-2125 (hd3000) with Gigabyte h61 - $187.50
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3. A8-3850 with Gigabyte fm1 - $180

the conclusion at (i3 2100 w/HD2000 vs a8-3850):
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/A8-3850-vs-Core-...
There is good news and bad news about the new A-Series CPU from AMD we reviewed, the A8-3850.

The good news is that its integrated graphics controller is simply the best integrated solution we’ve seen so far. It was way faster than the Core i3-2100’s and, on Lost Planet 2, it was even faster than a GeForce GT 430, making us suspect that it is optimized for DirectX 11 games. It was also faster than a GeForce GT 430 for applications that use the GPU for processing (GPGPU), such as converting video files using Media Espresso.

Also on the good side, applications that perform better with four “real” cores will perform better on the A8-3850 than on the Core i3-2100, which has only two “real” cores and two “simulated” ones, using Hyper-Threading technology.

The bad news is that, aside from gaming and 3D rendering, the Core i3-2100 is faster and, depending on the application, by a large margin.
So, if you are a gamer on a really tight budget, the new A8-3850 is a really nice option. But if you are an average user who won’t play games, the Core i3-2100 is a better option.
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February 25, 2012 5:11:25 AM

What are you going to be doing with this computer? Unless you're working on one of the few programs where the Bulldozer actually does half decent I wouldn't bother with the Bulldozer.
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February 25, 2012 5:23:13 AM

rds1220 said:
What are you going to be doing with this computer? Unless you're working on one of the few programs where the Bulldozer actually does half decent I wouldn't bother with the Bulldozer.


c'mon, it for his parents . . .they drive s l o w. :lol: 
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February 25, 2012 5:26:19 AM

O I missed that the first time I read that. Still I would go with an I3 over a 4100 Bulldozer. If his parents are only fooling around on the internet or watching movies the I3 would be fine.
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February 25, 2012 6:11:52 AM

Thats a good comparison review. I suppose I should eliminate the A8.. just doesnt seem like a good fit.

I know these are all more than enough for them right now but I'm thinking long term. 3-5 years down the road I want this machine to still be competitive. And there is a good possibility my father will get into some video editing and transferring.


No love for the bulldozer?? I can't believe how much people dislike these chips. And for the most part I agree. Intel is far ahead of AMD. But if you were to just look at the stats: Clock speed: FX>i3, Cores: FX(4)>i3(2) ,Graphics: hd6450>hd3000 Age: FX is newer, Price FX is cheaper. Are these bulldozer chips so bad that despite all these favorable stats the i3 is still a better chip?

What about for only $50 more ($43 more than an i3) I could get the fx-8120??




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February 25, 2012 8:58:50 AM

i3-2100, asrock z68 extreme 3 gen 3.
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February 25, 2012 8:59:25 AM

In terms of clock speed, sandybridge is 15% faster than fx.
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February 25, 2012 11:41:27 AM


PhII 960T Zosma and AM3+ motherboard: $225 or so

4 (or 6) cores for "possibly some video and music editing" will blow past any i3.

Otherwise, either AMD or Intel will do. An SSD more than anything will add to the 'snappy' factor

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February 25, 2012 3:50:14 PM

No love for the bulldozer?? I can't believe how much people dislike these chips.

No why should we love a CPU that has been developed for how ever many years and is out performed by older Phenoms II's and Athelon II's. Or is out performed by dual core I3's let alone quad core I5's and I7's.

And for the most part I agree. Intel is far ahead of AMD. But if you were to just look at the stats: Clock speed: FX>i3, Cores: FX(4)>i3(2) ,Graphics: hd6450>hd3000 Age: FX is newer, Price FX is cheaper. Are these bulldozer chips so bad that despite all these favorable stats the i3 is still a better chip?

Wrong. Clock for clock the I3, I5 and I7 beats the Bulldozer in all but a few benchmarks. Even the old Athelon and PhenomII's beat out the Bulldozer. Clock for clock the Bulldozer can't compete with Sandy Bridges, Sandy Bridges has a faster architecture. So its newer, that doesn't mean anything especially when the newer processor gets beaten out by older quad and dual core CPU's. If you're doing a cheap build with an I3 you are really not spending that much more. Yes the processor is more expensive but you can get a cheap Z68 motherboard, and other other hardware and again it wont be that much more. The Bulldozer isn't that great and I would spend the extra $75 (+|-) and get the I3.

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February 25, 2012 6:07:43 PM

Wisecracker said:
PhII 960T Zosma and AM3+ motherboard: $225 or so

4 (or 6) cores for "possibly some video and music editing" will blow past any i3.

Otherwise, either AMD or Intel will do. An SSD more than anything will add to the 'snappy' factor


pfffft. with quick sync DISabled :p 

really though look at the Windows Live Movie Maker 14 video encoding benchmark, which would most likely be used by the parents:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/13

so i guess benching between a pIIx4 840 and pIIx6 1050t is getting "blown past"?
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February 25, 2012 7:46:28 PM

Your parents aren't going to notice the difference between an Athlon II X2 and a 6-core Sandy Bridge.

Go cheap on the CPU and get them a SATA III SSD and it'll be the fastest computer they've ever used.

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February 25, 2012 10:06:50 PM

Decided to get a nice intel board and a $50 pentium g620. Upgrade the chip in to a sandy bridge or ivy bridge in a year or 2 if necessary. Heading down to microcenter to return the AMD crap now.

They made a mistake on the price match for the hd 6450 so after rebate it only cost me $15. Should I keep it or will the integrated hd2000 graphics be OK??
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February 25, 2012 10:22:24 PM

adrenaline435 said:
Decided to get a nice intel board and a $50 pentium g620. Upgrade the chip in to a sandy bridge or ivy bridge in a year or 2 if necessary. Heading down to microcenter to return the AMD crap now.

They made a mistake on the price match for the hd 6450 so after rebate it only cost me $15. Should I keep it or will the integrated hd2000 graphics be OK??


LOL!

honestly HD 2000 ain't all that, sufficient but ain't all that. the 6450 is better.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...
yeah a benchmark in games but it shows better quality all around for a gfx solution.
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February 26, 2012 4:52:16 AM

Didn't end up makin it there. f it. I'm just gonna use the fx-4100 I bought. Doesn't seem worth it to exchange it for a cpu with half the power just because it uses a little more power... Same price. Everyone hates the FX but a 4100 with a nice mobo for $150 is a good deal no matter what. Thanks everyone for all the input. I was definitely ovethinking this one. Plus the 6450 for $15.. really this is a good build for the money.
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February 26, 2012 5:52:13 AM

Nothing is wrong with the FX-4100 for your parents uses. It's price per performance isn't quite as good as most CPUs for some uses, but at least you can tell your parents "It's a newly released quad core!". :) 
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