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Radeon HD 7000 - is it worth the wait?

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September 28, 2011 9:10:20 AM

Hello,

I just came back from a 7 month deployment and I set aside 2k - 3k dollars to build myself a new computer.

I am sad to see that the same card that was on top when I left is still the king: GTX 580.

Do you guys think the Radeon HD 7000 series will be a big improvement that is worth the wait? Or should i just take the plunge and buy a card that is nearly 1 year old at this point?

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September 28, 2011 9:22:23 AM

Actually the kings are the GTX 590 and the HD6990 (they're quite tied with performance so there's no clear king).

I don't know how much of an improvement the HD 7000 series will be, but I believe the GTX 600 series will be 3 times more power efficient than the GTX 500 series. http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Nvidia-GTX-600-to-B...
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September 28, 2011 9:24:05 AM

If you can wait till begin 2012, wait imo, they sound promissing.
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September 28, 2011 9:26:23 AM

Kiril said:
Hello,

I just came back from a 7 month deployment and I set aside 2k - 3k dollars to build myself a new computer.

I am sad to see that the same card that was on top when I left is still the king: GTX 580.

Do you guys think the Radeon HD 7000 series will be a big improvement that is worth the wait? Or should i just take the plunge and buy a card that is nearly 1 year old at this point?


where were you deployed? glad you made it back safe... we just got to ft. wadsworth.

should you wait?

the question is are you willing to wait?

you can wait a few months for the next big thing, or a year for the next next big thing, it goes on forever...

buy now if you want a new card right now, wait for the new one to come out if you want to wait. delayed gratification is meaningless if the gratification never comes... :) 

i spent a LOT on my last rig. and i regret it. we all want super awesome over the top, and its nice, but you can do pretty darn well with a tier or two down from the fastest.

if you have two or three grand, you can definitely go crazy super awesome and all, but should you? i would rather have a 256GB ssd and a good mid tier card that sli top of the line cards and a so-so drive. you can have both with your budget, but you don't need both...

check out my site and contact me if you want any help; 10%off for active duty/veterans(we take care of our own):
the future... enhanced...
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September 28, 2011 9:46:14 AM

@pckitty4427 I didn't even hear about the GTX 600 series. That's definitely going to be worth it if it's 3x as powerful...

@chedderslam1976 We were deployed in the Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea area. Definitely good to be back haha. I have usually always gone that route, built a mid range system and have been satisfied with it. But now that I can afford it, I want a bad ass rig haha. The only thing that sucks is I missed so many games already, I don't really want to wait much longer. But if a card comes out a few months after I build my system that is 3 times as powerful, I know I'll be kicking myself.
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September 28, 2011 10:16:55 AM

oh, dude, missing out on game is a GOOD thing. I actually wait 1 year from release date to play most games. I was, shall we say, "busy" for quite a bit of time, and it was great to have this huge backlog of games to play.

1. cheaper
2. patched
3. mods
4. community has grown
5. current hardware plays maxed out
6. cheaper
6. lower cost
7. the game is cheaper
8. you don't have to spend as much on the game because it is cheaper

> But if a card comes out a few months after I build my system that is 3 times as powerful

won't happen. besides, if we waited for all the info and perfect intel, i'm not sure we would get anything done ever. know what i mean?

you can:
1. post your budget to the template in the new system builds, trust us geeks that spend hours pouring over this stuff
2. spend hours and hours pouring over benchmarks and specs and leaked slides of roadmaps and and and

so, do you want to be an operator(1) or an analyst(2)?
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September 28, 2011 11:10:34 AM

Alright, screw it! I'm going to build my computer now and get a GTX 580. Once I figure out what all parts I want, I'll post my build in the system builds forum so you guys can dissect it :p 
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September 28, 2011 11:17:54 AM

Good luck. Dont worry too much. If it turns out the new gpus are like 20 times better, they will probably cost 3 times more, not to mention, developers are making weaker and weaker engines nowdays. Metro 2033 and Crysis 1 are still the most demanding games (metro first then crysis).

So, if a 2007 year game is the second most demanding....... does not look like we need top of the line equipment anyway.
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September 28, 2011 11:17:58 AM

Good luck. Dont worry too much. If it turns out the new gpus are like 20 times better, they will probably cost 3 times more, not to mention, developers are making weaker and weaker engines nowdays. Metro 2033 and Crysis 1 are still the most demanding games (metro first then crysis).

So, if a 2007 year game is the second most demanding....... does not look like we need top of the line equipment anyway.
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September 28, 2011 11:18:04 AM

Good luck. Dont worry too much. If it turns out the new gpus are like 20 times better, they will probably cost 3 times more, not to mention, developers are making weaker and weaker engines nowdays. Metro 2033 and Crysis 1 are still the most demanding games (metro first then crysis).

So, if a 2007 year game is the second most demanding....... does not look like we need top of the line equipment anyway.
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September 28, 2011 11:18:26 AM

heck yes. pm or email me when you post; i'd love to help.

ms@msdatasystems.com
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September 28, 2011 11:18:56 AM

Sorry for doblue post, said temporarly unavailable 8().
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September 29, 2011 8:00:23 AM

Ok I see your point about not needing to spend that much money. I got my build together and it ended up being only about $1600! I have posted it in this thread.
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September 29, 2011 12:43:56 PM

Kiril.. i am in your same boat. I bought a Gen3 board with pci-e3. I am going to be getting an Ivy Bridge cpu that will enable pci-e3 support and thus, I will be getting a 7900-series AMD card. It sucks to have to wait so long cause I want to play games now, but I have come up with a solution. I just bought a very cheap (under $200) GTX 560ti. That card will allow me to play all the games that I want at 1080p mostly maxed out. Yes, there will be 1 or 2 games (metro and bf3 or so) that i will not be able to max out, but thats about it. I don't see there being any more games at that caliber of graphics for a little while. So my little 560ti will chug along nicely.

When the 7900 series comes out, I will sell my 560ti for around $150 lets say.. then I'll just throw another $150 and getmyself a badass card. Then that will hopefully last for a while.
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September 30, 2011 8:27:33 AM

phishy714 said:
Kiril.. i am in your same boat. I bought a Gen3 board with pci-e3. I am going to be getting an Ivy Bridge cpu that will enable pci-e3 support and thus, I will be getting a 7900-series AMD card. It sucks to have to wait so long cause I want to play games now, but I have come up with a solution. I just bought a very cheap (under $200) GTX 560ti. That card will allow me to play all the games that I want at 1080p mostly maxed out. Yes, there will be 1 or 2 games (metro and bf3 or so) that i will not be able to max out, but thats about it. I don't see there being any more games at that caliber of graphics for a little while. So my little 560ti will chug along nicely.

When the 7900 series comes out, I will sell my 560ti for around $150 lets say.. then I'll just throw another $150 and getmyself a badass card. Then that will hopefully last for a while.


that is about the best way to go about it. well played, sir.
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September 30, 2011 10:48:07 AM

dam being away for 7 months, F that
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September 30, 2011 12:32:14 PM

dhicks19 said:
dam being away for 7 months, F that


some people live for others, not themselves. crazy, i know.
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October 1, 2011 9:24:29 PM

Kiril said:
@pckitty4427 I didn't even hear about the GTX 600 series. That's definitely going to be worth it if it's 3x as powerful...

@chedderslam1976 We were deployed in the Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea area. Definitely good to be back haha. I have usually always gone that route, built a mid range system and have been satisfied with it. But now that I can afford it, I want a bad ass rig haha. The only thing that sucks is I missed so many games already, I don't really want to wait much longer. But if a card comes out a few months after I build my system that is 3 times as powerful, I know I'll be kicking myself.


Hello.
If You can - wait for radeons hd7000 - hd7950/70 are new construction - more power and lower power construction.
They came in early 2012 or end of this year (little chance).
About Nvidia Keplers gtx600 - they are not 3x powerful... They are just 3x powerful per watt... This is just lower power consumption, not performance.
PS - sorry for my English - I know that he is very poor :( .
Regards
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October 1, 2011 10:03:48 PM

dhicks19 said:
dam being away for 7 months, F that



Some people like to live to there lives and do something usefull with it.

Anyways, Kiril glad your home safe an sound mate.
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October 2, 2011 3:14:48 AM

Gothams Finest said:
Some people like to live to there lives and do something usefull with it.

Anyways, Kiril glad your home safe an sound mate.


how is that "something useful"?
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October 2, 2011 10:14:08 AM

To wait or not to wait depends on what system you cuurently have and what you want to play. If you can play smothly with slightly lowered detail I'd wait if you can't then get a 580...

Also take into account that early next year intel will deliver the new ivy bridge replacing sandy bridge... Waiting for gpu can also mean waiting for a whole system.

If you can put a 6950 or a 560ti in your current computer it is probably the best solution to ease the wait until next gen arrives...
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October 2, 2011 11:28:40 AM

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October 12, 2011 12:13:18 AM

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