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Hi all!

I've just gotten a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 ED and want to start scanning
but haven't figured out what the best settings would be. I've got a lot of
old slides that I'd just like to archive in some format (probably
highest-quality JPEGs) so that we can view them on a computer. Specifically,
I'm not sure about number of bits per sample (currently Pixel Data Size=8),
Calibrated RGB, Kodachrome settings, Auto Focus, Auto exposure, Digital ICE
Fine, Digital ROC 5, Digital GEM 3, Multi Sample Scanning at Normal (1X).

Anybody have a recommended group of settings they can suggest?

Thanks.

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"David Gintz" <dgintz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all!
>
> I've just gotten a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 ED and want to start scanning
> but haven't figured out what the best settings would be. I've got a lot of
> old slides that I'd just like to archive in some format (probably
> highest-quality JPEGs) so that we can view them on a computer.
> Specifically, I'm not sure about number of bits per sample (currently
> Pixel Data Size=8), Calibrated RGB, Kodachrome settings, Auto Focus, Auto
> exposure, Digital ICE Fine, Digital ROC 5, Digital GEM 3, Multi Sample
> Scanning at Normal (1X).
>
> Anybody have a recommended group of settings they can suggest?
>
> Thanks.

With my 4000ED I use Nikon Color Management, scan into AdobeRGB colorspace,
use 16 bit, ICE normal, no ROC or GEM, Scanning at 1X. This works for the
vast number of my slides. If I have a real old slide I will use ROC. Keep in
mind the higher you set the sampling rate or using ICE at higher levels your
per scan time will increase dramatically. I use the 16 bit mode because I am
making large prints and need the add pixels wham I am editing in Photoshop.

Jim Waggener

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Jim Waggener wrote:
> "David Gintz" <dgintz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Jf2dnYhjFfq7n_LfRVn-gQ@adelphia.com...
>
>>Hi all!
>>
>>I've just gotten a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 ED and want to start scanning
>>but haven't figured out what the best settings would be. I've got a lot of
>>old slides that I'd just like to archive in some format (probably
>>highest-quality JPEGs) so that we can view them on a computer.
>>Specifically, I'm not sure about number of bits per sample (currently
>>Pixel Data Size=8), Calibrated RGB, Kodachrome settings, Auto Focus, Auto
>>exposure, Digital ICE Fine, Digital ROC 5, Digital GEM 3, Multi Sample
>>Scanning at Normal (1X).
>>
>>Anybody have a recommended group of settings they can suggest?
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> With my 4000ED I use Nikon Color Management, scan into AdobeRGB colorspace,
> use 16 bit, ICE normal, no ROC or GEM, Scanning at 1X. This works for the
> vast number of my slides. If I have a real old slide I will use ROC. Keep in
> mind the higher you set the sampling rate or using ICE at higher levels your
> per scan time will increase dramatically. I use the 16 bit mode because I am
> making large prints and need the add pixels wham I am editing in Photoshop.

I wanted to wait to hear from other people as I am presently archiving
my 1500 (or so) slides taken over the past 50! (oh,m'god) years. I am
using a Nikon Coolscan V. (which I hope to sell to one of you on eBay
when I am finished. :-)

I use the settings.. ICE-NORMAL, jpg, 8-bit (for the majority), no ROC
or GEM, Calibrated RGB and Kodachrome (when appropriate). I then
enhance the slides in PhotoShop. I found the extra time of processing
ROC and GEM did not pay off since I was using PhotoShop and adjusted
Levels, colour balance, and saturation there anyway. I added Unsharpen
Mask as well (111;2.4;0). I will display most of these images
personally as "family snapshots" so really high quality is not my
purpose. And since I am doing 1500 - scan time and file size is a real
issue.

For any really important images I scanned and saved at 14-bit and TIFF.

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"David Gintz" <dgintz@gmail.com> writes:

> I've just gotten a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 ED and want to start scanning
> but haven't figured out what the best settings would be. I've got a lot of
> old slides that I'd just like to archive in some format (probably
> highest-quality JPEGs) so that we can view them on a computer. Specifically,
> I'm not sure about number of bits per sample (currently Pixel Data Size=8),
> Calibrated RGB, Kodachrome settings, Auto Focus, Auto exposure, Digital ICE
> Fine, Digital ROC 5, Digital GEM 3, Multi Sample Scanning at Normal (1X).
>
> Anybody have a recommended group of settings they can suggest?

Scanning is rather an art. Don't dive in *too* fast -- or in six
months you'll be feeling you have to go back and re-do your first
three months of work :-). Really -- well, it's really a risk, anyway.

Going to all the work of scanning to produce only screen-resolution
images is IMHO a *serious* mistake which you will regret deeply. It's
very little more work to scan at a decent resolution, and archive that
on DVDs or something.

Multi-sample scanning is used to reduce noise in the densest parts of
the image scanned (shadows for a slide). Since slides have the
darkest dense parts, you may very well want multi-sample on, probably
at 4x.

8-bit is fine except for images that are going to need considerable
post-processing; for them you may want to start with 16-bit.

Before you start, you do want to get your color-management situation
under control, and get the scanner calibration/profile to the point
where you get the colors right immediately.

For old slides, you definitely need the Digital ICE (and boy is that
wonderful). You *still* need to dust the slides carefully before
scanning, though.

Kodachrome settings I'm not familiar with (my LS-2000 doesn't have
anything special there). Presumably you want to set it to match the
film you're scanning.
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"Jim Waggener" <jimw@nospam.visi.net> writes:

> "David Gintz" <dgintz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Jf2dnYhjFfq7n_LfRVn-gQ@adelphia.com...
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've just gotten a Nikon Super Coolscan 4000 ED and want to start scanning
>> but haven't figured out what the best settings would be. I've got a lot of
>> old slides that I'd just like to archive in some format (probably
>> highest-quality JPEGs) so that we can view them on a computer.
>> Specifically, I'm not sure about number of bits per sample (currently
>> Pixel Data Size=8), Calibrated RGB, Kodachrome settings, Auto Focus, Auto
>> exposure, Digital ICE Fine, Digital ROC 5, Digital GEM 3, Multi Sample
>> Scanning at Normal (1X).
>>
>> Anybody have a recommended group of settings they can suggest?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> With my 4000ED I use Nikon Color Management, scan into AdobeRGB
> colorspace, use 16 bit, ICE normal, no ROC or GEM, Scanning at
> 1X. This works for the vast number of my slides. If I have a real
> old slide I will use ROC. Keep in mind the higher you set the
> sampling rate or using ICE at higher levels your per scan time will
> increase dramatically. I use the 16 bit mode because I am making
> large prints and need the add pixels wham I am editing in Photoshop.

Scanning in 16-bit mode does not give you any additional pixels!
--
David Dyer-Bennet, <mailtod-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>

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"David Dyer-Bennet" <dd-b@dd-b.net> wrote in message
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>
> For old slides, you definitely need the Digital ICE (and boy is that
> wonderful). You *still* need to dust the slides carefully before
> scanning, though.
>
And, if you were (like me) foolish enough to use Ektachrome E2 or Ektachrome
E4, you will need ROC. Also, if you have any negatives from the 70s, and
they are not Ektar, then you will most likely wind up needing ROC. My
Kodacolor X negatives (late 60s) have survived quite well...

As for Kodachrome, all you need to do is tell the scanner to use the
Kodachrome profile..

Jim

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