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November 25, 2011 8:19:33 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next two days

Budget Range: ~$2000 (+/- $100) for Computer + monitor; ~$300-$400 for speakers

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming/music/movies/photoshop

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country: USA

Overclocking: Don't know much about it

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200


I've put together this computer and looking for some feedback before I purchase it.

I would also love suggestions for a set of speakers and a monitor. Please note that the speakers aren't part of my budget as someone is going to buy them for me.

Thanks! :hello: 



Case:
Antec DF-85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card
GTX 580
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
i7-2600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD DRIVE
ASUS 24X DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


TOTAL: $1754.91
November 25, 2011 8:52:58 PM

If this is strictly for gaming, then you could save money by just getting a regular i5 2500k. You really don't need that i6 unless you're going to be relying on transcoding, etc. I also recommend replacing the GTX 580 with Crossfire'd HD 6970s for increased performance at very little or even no extra cost depending on the brand.

Make sure you get a good PSU. You'll want at least a quality 750W PSU from a reliable brand for that GTX 580 and probably 850W for the Crossfire'd 6970s.

Everything looks good so far!
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November 25, 2011 10:18:24 PM

GTX580 is a beast but 2xHD6970s are substantially more $$. If you do go for the i5-2500K you almopst have room in your budget for SLI (2x) GTX580. But you will have to up your PSU - 850W.
-Bruce
You can also consider crossfire HD6950s
or
SLI GTX560Tis and keep the 750W
Don't forget a CPU cooler like 212 EVO
November 25, 2011 10:33:00 PM

If you prefer NVIDIA like I do, go for 2 X GTX 560 Ti. If you can wait until the 29Th, get 2 X GTX 560 Ti 448 cores.

The 'GTX 560 Ti 448 cores" is an updated version of the 560 Ti which is faster for a similar price.
November 25, 2011 11:07:52 PM

building simalar,
as cd drive, i went with sony dvd-rw/ram lightscribe,roughly same price and can do your own lables.
November 26, 2011 2:34:26 AM

Should I just stick with the gtx 580 or go for dual hd 6970s and up my psu to 850w? Or wait and get two GTX 560 Ti 448's? Or the Lightning XE?
November 26, 2011 3:08:24 AM

Haha. Welcome the world of opinions.

If you like the gtx 580 but are considering a multi gpu setup... You could get 1 gtx 580 for now, especially considering 1 gtx 580 will max out most games or play at them at very high settings (at the moment) and add a 2nd down the track when more games demand it.

The only other thing you change from your list is a PSU that will accommodate the 2nd gtx 580 down the track. I'd be looking 900W+ for 2 x gtx580s

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November 26, 2011 3:34:49 AM
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Getting a dual GPU system from the start kills the upgrade route a tad. If you're OK with it, go with 2X6950 or 2x560ti if you so want. A 850 watt PSU will do that. Else, just get the 580 and add another 580 a couple of years from now if you feel like that.

Unless one really knows that's what he wants, I will advise against getting a SLI/XFire rig straight outta box.

Now onto your proposed build. Firstly, it looks good enough for me so as not to warrant any significant changes.

The build underneath however is significantly cheaper without taking absolutely anything away.

CPU: $320 Intel Core i7-2600K

CPU: $225 Intel Core i5-2500K - Cheaper and just 'bout as good for gaming. Won't get you the bragging rights though :p 

Both the above CPU's are compatible with the following components -

Motherboard: $190 ASUS P8Z68-V Gen3 - Gen 3 board for native PCIe 3.0. You should get ~5.0-ish on this one from most of the reviews.

RAM: $90 CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB - Normally you won't need any more than 4GB for gaming alone, but seeing as RAM is so cheap, might as well make your rig a bit more future friendly.

RAM: $45 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB - Drop down to this kit if you intend to save a few bucks. But personally, at your price point, I'm gonna get myself the 16GB kit.

GPU: $500 EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 580 - Going with anything less at your price range would be a crying shame. You can get a few more frames with a similarly priced 560ti SLI rig, but this will keep your upgrade options open.

SSD: $120 Intel 320 Series 2.5" 120GB - Amongst the most reliable SATA 2 SSDs in the market today. You can go with a SATA 3 drive, but the reliable ones are prohibitively priced.

ODD: $20 SAMSUNG DVD Burner with LightScribe Support - OEM

ODD: $70 LG Black SATA Blue Ray burner Super Multi with LightScribe Support - OEM - Blue Ray burner option. Drop the 20 dollar one if you do choose to go with this one.

PSU: $130 PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W - 580 SLI compliant.

PSU: $65 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 - For single GTX 580

HSF: $26 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus - You won't need this if you don't plan to overclock. The stock one is gonna be plenty good.

Case: $95 Corsair Carbide Series 400R - Keep the Dark Fleet if you really want a full tower case. I can almost guarantee you that you won't bee needing it though.

Monitor: $300 SAMSUNG P2770FH ToC Rose Black 27" - Expensive but super fast response, high quality monitor.

Monitor: $170 Asus VE248H Black 24" - Cheaper 24" option if you don't want an expensive 27" option.

Keep your case, ODD etc. if you want. Total cost: ~$1200 (after rebates) with the cheaper options.

PS: If you don't know 'bout OC'ing and don't want to experiment with it, your overall budget should come down by quite a bit. A $80 board and a $180 processor should be plenty alright.

Overclocking is the process of increasing the speed of your processor and running it at speeds higher than what the manufacturer intended it to.

The boards that you and I have chosen are for hardcore overclockers and will be extreme overkill for your rig. You'll have to decide whether you wanna go with expensive options like these and learn 'bout OC'ing or save ~$200 odd. YES, that's exactly how much you stand to save if you want a non overclockable board+processor combo.

If you're convinced that you don't wanna tinker with the manufacturer's settings, they'll be a huge wastage of money though.
November 26, 2011 4:02:58 AM

Best answer selected by skgh3.
November 26, 2011 5:50:30 AM

Putting anything other than the CP-850 in that Case would be a crime......the HX750 is a great PSU ..... but it's the CP_850 not only is one of the few PSU's to ever get a 10.0 performance rating from jonnyguru but it also gets an editor's choice award from silentpcreview.com. ......

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

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It is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise.


http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html

GFX - Twin 90Mhz 560s guve ya 40% more fps than a single 580 and 90% of two 580's in SLI|. The new 560-448 comes out Tuesday and it's 560/570 hybrid purportedly at 560 prices. And the 850 watter will run two of them ..... your 750 won't do twin 580's

RAM - Top end CPU, top end MoBo, top end GFX ....so why skimp on the RAM ? Photoshop will show a noticeable difference here and while the difference in gaming may not be noticeable, it is measurable at 3-5% increase in average fps .... bigger impact on minimum fps tho.

This is $1765 w/o the HD......the $150 HD I'd normally use an a PhotoShop / Video editing build is now $450 .... so use what ya fond to tide ya over.

Case - $ 155 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 15 - Antec Red 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 115 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 210 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $ 300 - Intel Core i7-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 83 - Thermalright Silver Arrow http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 104 - (2 x 4GB) Mushkoin Redline DDR3-2133 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - Later Same
GFX - $ 230 - Asus GTX 560 900Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 230 - Same
HD - Later - Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 210 - 120 GB Mushkin Chrinis Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 26, 2011 6:59:34 AM

calguyhunk. I've a question, sorry but..
You said he can go for $180 CPU, do you mean i5-2400 or similarly priced a "locked" processor? If so wouldn't it bottleneck 2x GTX 580?

And, is Corsair TX 850W enough for 2x GTX 580 along with same build that you suggested him? Can you please explain a bit.

Thank you!
November 26, 2011 11:11:21 AM

naqqash said:
calguyhunk. I've a question, sorry but..
You said he can go for $180 CPU, do you mean i5-2400 or similarly priced a "locked" processor? If so wouldn't it bottleneck 2x GTX 580?
Simple answer - NO. A locked processor doesn't allow OC'ing. It doesn't hamper performance. Without OC'ing, the locked AND unlocked 2500's perform exactly the same. The 2400, being 100Mhz slower doesn't really mean anything in the real world.

Also, if you do go with a locked 24/2500 (the 'K' version is unlocked and OC'able. The non-'K's are not) you should go with a H67 board because the Z68 chipset is specifically build for OC'ing purposes. But if you're looking at a GTX 580 SLI system you could just spend the extra few bucks to get a cheaper Z68 board if you're willing to lean to OC. It's easier now than ever with the Sandy Bridge platform. Read it up on the net before you decide on what to do.
naqqash said:
And, is Corsair TX 850W enough for 2x GTX 580 along with same build that you suggested him? Can you please explain a bit.

Thank you!
Technically it is, but just 'bout. Keeping a bit of headroom always help because you might wanna add extra drives later on or extra RAM modules or indeed OC your CPU (if it is OC'able). Also, as the capacitors age with time, the ability to deliver constant power at the rated wattage diminishes. With all that in mind, I recommended a high quality 950 Watt PSU, which is, by most accounts is a 1000 watt PSU, under-rated as usual by PCP&C.

@ OP One thing I will say, is that waiting a few more days for the GTX 600 series might be well worth it. The current gen cards are all about to be EOL'd by those radically improved 28nm replacements. So wait it out a bit maybe :whistle: 
November 26, 2011 12:44:35 PM

Well I got second answer right thank you.

But for first I was actually trying to say that a stock speed i5 (being 2300,2310,2400 or even 2500) is enough for 2x GTX 580 or 2x GTX 570. I understand that an OC'ed i5-2500k (4.0GHz-4.5GHz) or a stock i7-2600/2600k is enough being HT + 8 thread CPU.

I'm currently on 2x 6870 (bought single first because of budget and then second one). I know there's no need currently but for the heck of curiosity. Hope you don't mind.
November 26, 2011 3:11:00 PM

I have seen a system with 2 gtx 580s at max load pulling only 750w from the wall I feel that especially if you are not OC'ing the 750w will get the job done
November 26, 2011 10:28:58 PM

By the calculator a 750w would appear to be enough for a system with 2 x 580s. Many an expert advises 850w as the bare minimum. Having your PSU operating at close to its max load decreases its over all life span,can also give you performance/stability issues.
November 28, 2011 8:52:07 AM

naqqash said:
But for first I was actually trying to say that a stock speed i5 (being 2300,2310,2400 or even 2500) is enough for 2x GTX 580 or 2x GTX 570. I understand that an OC'ed i5-2500k (4.0GHz-4.5GHz) or a stock i7-2600/2600k is enough being HT + 8 thread CPU.
Long story short. Yes, a stock 'non-HT' i5 is enough for 2X580/2X6970 without any bottlenecks :) 
November 28, 2011 10:03:39 AM

I wish I could also select "best answer" :p 
nvm, thanks. :) 
November 28, 2011 11:36:31 AM

^ You're welcome :) 
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