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GeForce GTX 660 Ti Review: Nvidia's Trickle-Down Keplernomics

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August 16, 2012 12:46:11 PM

Nvidia's Kepler architecture is finally manifest in a $300 graphics card, which the company says beats AMD's Radeon HD 7870 and challenges its more expensive 7950. Can this GK104-based mainstream card carve out a spot between the GCN-based competition?

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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 1:37:31 PM

Hmm. I have been wanting to replace my 560 - this throws a wrench in the gears. I was sold on a ASUS 670 but I think I'll wait to compare specs with their 660ti - I just started ripping my BD collection so the additional RAM bandwidth might be worth the extra $100 but it is still an interesting option.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 1:40:10 PM

so, this is basically a card that costs 40$ less then a GTX 580, consumes 100W less power then a gtx 580 and its 8% better...hmm, intresting.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 1:41:53 PM

*edit, costs 100$ less then GTX 580.
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August 16, 2012 1:43:19 PM

That's strange - on techpowerup review the 660Ti is above 7950's average performance.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 1:49:22 PM

game junkyI was sold on a ASUS 670 but I think I'll wait to compare specs with their 660ti.

Asus' DCU2 Top ends up about 5% faster than stock, 8% slower than stock GTX 670 and still uses that excellent cooler.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660...

Still, the GTX 660Ti looks to be a decent card.
Not really fond of how nVidia keeps nerfing their memory bandwidth though.
Once prices drop a little, I could see it being an excellent mainstream card.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:03:06 PM

nice card, not OVERLY impressed...
BUT THE PRICE...!
c'mon SON let's be real here......
ridiculous @ $300 beans..
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:07:35 PM

waiting for a price cut down.who's with me?
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August 16, 2012 2:10:52 PM

I have been holding to upgrade my GTX 460 256bits. I wonder if this card will be bottlenecked by my C2Q 9550 @ 3.6ghz....
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:12:38 PM

GPGPU = Kepler = FAIL....
that's depressing but I understand nVidia has designated GTX 6 series as a gaming cards but c'mon SON.!!!
ridiculous once again..
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21
a b U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
August 16, 2012 2:19:56 PM

Clearly we need more price cuts on the 660ti. I expect AMD to lower the prices even more, heck online retailers sell Radeon cards lower than the MSRP, making 7950 and 7870 even more budget friendly. It's still sad really to see mid-range cards battling at $300+. It used to be $250 and lower
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:21:24 PM

GTX580 has lower average FPS but usually has a higher Minimum FPS than GTX660.
i would take higher min fps over a higher average FPS anyday.

on the final page, a graph comparing the min FPS of the games should have been there too.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:29:54 PM

i think the reviewer went overboard with the OpenCL tests in this review. You could have pared down some of those image/video manipulation tests.
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August 16, 2012 2:38:02 PM

If you overclock (why wouldn't you?), then the 7870 is the obvious choice. 660ti doesn't leave much headroom, while Pitcarim cards scale beautifully with OC (and have plenty of headroom). I wonder about the inconsistent OC improvements - was the 660ti thermally throttled on the games where the OC didn't help (much), or was it just the memory bandwidth (i.e., those games/settings had more taxing memory loads)?
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a c 143 U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
August 16, 2012 2:45:13 PM

So am i the only one seeing that GTX 660Ti is a fail?
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August 16, 2012 2:48:26 PM

Indeed, the 660ti hasnt lived upto its hype. I'd pick a HD7870 over it, especially since the 7870 will fall down to the 250-280 range after AMD begins with the price cut.
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August 16, 2012 2:49:32 PM

BigMack70Compared to the "wow" of the GTX 670 launch, this is very "meh".... needs to get down closer to the $250 mark to have that "wow" factor.

I've seen some HD 7870s getting close to this price, I guess it's a win-round for AMD.
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August 16, 2012 2:54:21 PM

lol Looks like the pitcrain 7870 is holding up pretty well. Can I say 660ti is between 7850 vs 7870 and on rare case above 7870?

I guess a 1.1GHz 7870 will just on par with 660ti. Pitcrain is just a powerful thing.
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August 16, 2012 2:55:48 PM

guru_urugIndeed, the 660ti hasnt lived upto its hype. I'd pick a HD7870 over it, especially since the 7870 will fall down to the 250-280 range after AMD begins with the price cut.


Last month, you could have picked up a non-reference 7870 for well below the $300 price tag (some after mail-in rebate). With the 660TI being a "meh" product, I doubt you'll find any significant price drops until Black Friday.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 2:56:13 PM

Considering 'other' sites jumped the gun, none of this is new or news to me. I would concur the OpenCL is IMO pointless; I consider both the GTX 600 & HD 7000 series 'gaming' GPUs.

The nice things about the GTX 660 Ti are the added vRAM 2GB, 3-WAY SLI is supported, and the same architectural Kepler. My advice is if purchasing then get a non-reference GTX 660 Ti which allows over-volting and OC if and when needed by doing so you'll match the GTX 670's performance.

3D Vision folks, my recommendation are the 4GB vRAM GTX 670 or 680's in SLI and as needed (2~4 WAY) depending on your resolution.

Very thorough benchmark and review - http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3026/nvidia-geforce-gtx...
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:03:10 PM

I have the GTX670 and it falls short on newer games that use DirectCompute for some effects. It's ridiculous the performance hit it gets. In Dirt Showdown, with Global Lightning activated, the FPS drops a lot, even without MSAA activated at all!

From what I'm thinking, the GTX6xx series will fall short when more games start using more GPGPU oriented programming for some visual effects, whereas the 7xxx series from AMD might not fall short.

Cheers!

Cheers!
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August 16, 2012 3:04:24 PM

Just got a glimpse of EVGA 660 Ti selection - and I must say there are so many of them. The best EVGA 660 Ti - FTW 3GB w/Backplate is almost on par with 670 FTW, plus it's got 1GB of extra memory (and I assume it's memory bandwidth is the same with other 3GB 660 Ti's) and it's MSRP is 350$. Same goes for 660 Ti FTW, almost the same specs and 100$ less compared to 670 FTW.

Those news doesn't make me very happy though, because I bought my 670's last month when there were no solid rumors when the 660 is released and my deadline was the end of august. However considering I was rocking with 8600M GT before that, the fun factor is well worth it.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:06:07 PM


Toms: Most objective article seen thus far on the 660ti

Good job!
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:16:03 PM

The once again pathetic GPGPU would be enough to sway me towards the 7870 if I needed an upgrade.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:27:34 PM

Hmmm. Probably expected, with the cut-down memory bandwidth.

Anyway, check out AnandTech's review too. Haven't read it yet, but they usually have good reviews as well.

Though i liked this review a lot, pretty balanced. Good job Don! :) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:31:33 PM

Woots! Wait is over :) 
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a b Î Nvidia
August 16, 2012 3:35:42 PM

Still using rather ancient cards by today's standards and left with not very many upgrade options on the green side. A gtx460 256bit, two gtx280, and two 9800gt. I won't be buying Kepler that is certain, maybe next year when money isn't as tight I'll buy up a GCN based card that is worth buying unless Radeon 8 is really nice which it should be :) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:40:29 PM

verbalizerGPGPU = Kepler = FAIL....that's depressing but I understand nVidia has designated GTX 6 series as a gaming cards but c'mon SON.!!!ridiculous once again..

Although NVIDIA has never been close to optimized for compute applications, CUDA makes a huge difference in the modeling and design programs that take advantage of it. Seems like a balanced market overall.
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August 16, 2012 3:42:31 PM

The HardwareSecrets review also showed the GTX660Ti performing generally better than the HD7870, however they didn't include all the GPGPU tests.
If some killer titles come out that use more OpenCL features, people that bought this card will rage. If you're building for future-resistance, this is not the card to get.
There's nothing compelling about it, especially at $300.
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August 16, 2012 3:47:25 PM

back to ye olde nvidia, overpriced carp.

7950 now looking like a sexy beast.

It's good now AMD's prices have settled down after they got the jump on nvidia for release.

Question is why they didn't do that to start with, and why NVidia are not trying to compete, given their overinflated fps scores and cheap components, they could undercut AMD out of the market.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:47:42 PM

And where's the 650? Will there be one? I'd rather get a card that requires only one auxiliary power connector... or if possible none.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:54:14 PM

The small 192 bit memory bus doesn't do this card any favors.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:54:38 PM

Oh I get it, today we have the AMD flock. Lets try it:
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:58:08 PM

I hate the HD 7970!!! :fou: 
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 3:59:17 PM

I Love the HD 7970!!! :love: 
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August 16, 2012 4:00:16 PM

Whoa, these result are way different from Anandtech's website, who am I supposed to believe?
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 4:05:17 PM

lpedraja2002Whoa, these result are way different from Anandtech's website, who am I supposed to believe?

I run across this often, and you unfortunately have to read the 'fine print' (settings, resolutions, drivers, etc) and look at MULTIPLE reviews to see and know the truth.
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August 16, 2012 4:15:29 PM

I hope this prompts AMD to cut the price of the 7950 to be a little more competative. I've wanted to get one but my wife isn't excited about me spending quite that much on a card. Even if it was 50 bucks less I would be able to swing it.
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August 16, 2012 4:16:03 PM

rmpumperThat's strange - on techpowerup review the 660Ti is above 7950's average performance.

Overclocked is, but not stock clocked one. My guess is that you read wrong article there.
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August 16, 2012 4:22:47 PM

HetneoOverclocked is, but not stock clocked one. My guess is that you read wrong article there.


But Stock GTX 660 Ti beats Stock HD7870 in every game on Techpowerup/Anandtech review.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 4:32:31 PM

^ they use a huge nu,ber of games for the review. Their performance positioning is more rounded than others, IMO.
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August 16, 2012 4:38:30 PM

Why was WoW excluded from benchmarking this time around??
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 4:41:51 PM

At $250 this would be a great card! At $300 it is an Ok card...
SLI seems promising though... I wonder which wins, 3X GTX 660 Ti or a single GTX 690?
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 4:46:19 PM

7950 + MIR is about the same cost of a 660ti.
7870 + MIR is less than the cost of a 66ti.

The bandwidth gimp on the 660ti is a turn off for me. I have 560s in SLI and I have real problems with max AA. I'd like to be excited about the 660 ti but I can say that I would pick one up over a 7950 and I'd gladly go cheaper with a 7870 and pocket the savings for some good beer.

This sums it up for me: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

If we had to pick something, on a pure performance-per-dollar basis the 7950 looks good both now and in the future; in particular we suspect it’s going to weather newer games better than the GTX 660 Ti and its relatively narrow memory bus.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 4:49:20 PM


internetlad said:
I hope this prompts AMD to cut the price of the 7950 to be a little more competative. I've wanted to get one but my wife isn't excited about me spending quite that much on a card. Even if it was 50 bucks less I would be able to swing it.


Sorry, but best I can tell the HD7950 has quite a sweet spot at $330 or so. It looks like the HD7870 is going to settle $270-$280, and puts quite a squeeze on the 660ti

ganron said:
But Stock GTX 660 Ti beats Stock HD7870 in every game on Techpowerup/Anandtech review.


No. It does not. At TechPU, I see a Zoltac 660ti at 1033/1652 MHz (stock 915/1500MHz) against a HD7950 800/1250MHz ...

when folks are hitting 1000/1400MHz routinely on HD7950s. TechPU is running OC'ed apples against stock-clock oranges -- same with Anand.

Anand has a history of pulling this same *Factory OC'ed Vs. Stock Card* crap, too.

mayankleoboy1 said:
^ they use a huge nu,ber of games for the review. Their performance positioning is more rounded than others, IMO.


Sorry. Toms hammered this one. I generally like TechPU, but they pulled an Anand on this review.





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August 16, 2012 4:53:03 PM

That settles it, ASUS 670 GTX it is.
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August 16, 2012 4:58:44 PM

haha that interesting as even nVidia didn't put gtx660ti that highin it's ad's materials.

rmpumperThat's strange - on techpowerup review the 660Ti is above 7950's average performance.

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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2012 5:19:05 PM

so i guess it comes down to the choice of games also right ? like some games prefer amd cards while some prefer nvidia..
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August 16, 2012 5:21:39 PM

I guess it all depends on who benchmarks you go by i am still confused
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