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March 1, 2012 8:04:53 PM

I have a cooler master hyper 212 evo in my cooler master storm enforcer case



I read about people getting around 20 degrees Celsius idle with this.

My temps are sort of high, note the computer has been on for a bit more than an hour and I was gaming around an hour ago.


My case has one 200mm fan at the front taking air in. Then there is the CPU Cooler fan sending air to the back of the case, then there is a 200mm fan at the back of the case taking the air out.

Perfect air flow.

My core 2 usually has a fire icon with 50C beside it.

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March 1, 2012 8:25:06 PM

Could be a few things. What is your room temperature where your computer is at? Have you dusted everything recently? How is your Cable management? Maybe you Applied thermal paste incorrectly.

Could you take a pic of your computers insides? I know my computer decreased in temp after I put it on a Hard surface, instead of carpet
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March 1, 2012 8:29:38 PM

This is a totally new Computer I built last weekend. It sits on the cold floor.

As for the thermal paste, I used the one that comes with the cooler master hyper 212 evo. I put a blob of it in the middle of the cpu and screwed the heat sink on.
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March 1, 2012 8:32:58 PM

Then It could be how you applied the Thermal Paste or your cable Management. Also when you installed the Case fans did you have the air flow going the right way?

You man need to install more fans. I know my case has 2 fans on the base pushing cool air in, one on the back and two on the top pushing air out with a 180 fan on the front pushing air in.

What is ambient room temperature. It could be causing over all high temperatures.
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March 1, 2012 8:34:23 PM

I'm suspecting it is the thermal paste. The Cable management is perfect, besides the bundle of cables sitting at the bottom of the case, really far away from the bottom of the motherboard.
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March 1, 2012 9:39:42 PM

what was your method? Usually the pea drop method works best. Again it could be where you live if you are in a warm climate. I just cant understand how at 33% usage you are running up to 50c with that chip. I am not familiar with it but I do not think it should run that hot at 2.3. But it can not hurt to try replacing the Thermal Paste. Did you use your own brand? when you get new paste check out when you lift the cooler off to see if when you applied it if it covered the chip well enough. If it looks ok and you did not use a high quality paste, it would be a good time to maybe put something nice on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is a well used paste
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March 1, 2012 9:53:28 PM

Cable management is 'perfect'? I'd like a picture if you could :-)
You may have put too much thermal paste on at install, but again, what is your room temperature?
If your room is 30'c, you are never getting a 20'c idle on air or water
Moto
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March 1, 2012 10:55:21 PM

My room temperature is really low, I live in toronto and it is winter atm. My windows in my room are usually open so sometimes it's ice cold.

I took my computer apart to remove the hard drive cage since it is empty to allow more air flow.

Here are some pictures while I disassembled my pc.

Most of my cables ( I have a non modular PSU) that are not needed are at the bottom of my case. Sorta squished to the bottom to allow maximum air flow




And another pic, again, I took apart my pc to remove the HDD cage, when I run my computer I usually have everything closed tight.

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March 1, 2012 10:56:27 PM

Also I forgot to mention I do NOT have a Graphics Card. So is that also another factor to why I have higher CPU temps?
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March 1, 2012 11:05:51 PM

Why do you have the cpu fan set so low?
670 rpm isn't much imo,barely anything.
Mine runs at 1250 rpm.
Is the cpu fan set-up properly in bios?
Set your cpu fan to auto.
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March 1, 2012 11:07:23 PM

The Heat sink fan is the only thing I have control over since its plugged into my mother board.

All the other fans are just connected to the PSU running at max automatically.
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March 1, 2012 11:08:27 PM

imtiax said:
The Heat sink fan is the only thing I have control over since its plugged into my mother board.

All the other fans are just connected to the PSU running at max automatically.

And it's set too low!
Most hsf perform best at 1200rpm.
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March 1, 2012 11:10:03 PM

How would I crank it up? I've never done this before, I"m new to building my own computers, this was my first time
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March 1, 2012 11:19:27 PM

imtiax said:
How would I crank it up? I've never done this before, I"m new to building my own computers, this was my first time

Go into bios = PC Health = and enable smart cpu fan and make some adjustments.
Because 670 rpm is useless.
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March 1, 2012 11:27:20 PM



I just tried that and this was my only option. I tried changing around the performance mode and stuff, tried disabling that, but it wont let me set my own CPU FAN Speed. It's either 6XX or Ignored.

Sorta wierd. What is CPU Q-Fan Control? If i disable that I still can't set my own RPM
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March 1, 2012 11:41:47 PM

Don't use Asus boards but something's not right with that.
Should be able to set up a ratio.
http://www.asus.com/999/html/events/mb/qfan.htm
I'll assume your cpu fan is plugged into the cpu_fan header on your board.
Also Speedfan is crappy imo and might be causing an issue.
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March 1, 2012 11:44:07 PM

I just noticed my bios is so old, it's like 20 versions older than the latest one. Going to update that right now.
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March 2, 2012 12:03:07 AM

Great. I just updated my Bios to the latest thing. Unfortunately there is no option for me to create ratios or anything. Everything looks pretty much the same in the bios
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March 2, 2012 12:08:14 AM

Unplug/remove that fan
Grab a big Cfm 120 from the fan roundup sticky and mod that onto your Hs, and run the fan straight off the Psu
Sorted hehe
*edit, although not the source of your temp issue, those cables are not perfect :-p
Had to see the picture to get the definition though
Moto
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March 2, 2012 12:15:23 AM

Even if I set speed to 0 it does not make a difference. The RPM is still 639 (As it is in the bios )


at ^ Well I don't think there is much better cable management that can be done with a NON MODULAR psu. I have the cables that I actually use routed through the back.
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March 2, 2012 12:17:46 AM

If I get a FanSpeedController thing for my Case.....Will that solve my issue?

How will I read the temperature/RPM of my fan if I plug the CPU fan into that "Controller"?
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March 2, 2012 12:26:52 AM

HWMONITOR is old. The new one that replaced that is AIDA64. Here is the summary

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March 2, 2012 12:35:28 AM

imtiax said:
Even if I set speed to 0 it does not make a difference. The RPM is still 639 (As it is in the bios )
http://screensnapr.com/e/O5BV8N.png

at ^ Well I don't think there is much better cable management that can be done with a NON MODULAR psu. I have the cables that I actually use routed through the back.


I use NON MODULAR Psu's, I'll link you some pics when I get to my pc, on phone atm, you can do a lot better but as I said, its not the main issue here,
A fan controller would allow you to set the fan speed yes, but are you ready to monitor it all the time, turn it up/down as required?
If not then the direct plug to Psu I suggested is a viable plan, plug and forget,
Moto
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March 2, 2012 12:41:14 AM

Sorta sad that this motherboard does not give access to set CPU fan RPM.

I am going to buy a fan controller anyways for the front intake fan of my case, right now its directly connected to the CPU and is so loud since its at 100%.

I'll leave the CPU plugged into the motherboard as it is...

I guess the temp's are fine and will cool down more after I get a video card so it does not have to use "Virtual memory"

Thanks!
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March 2, 2012 12:51:26 AM

Great News! I went back into my bios and set fan speed and q control to IGNORED.

Now my CPU fan's being controlled by speed fan
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March 2, 2012 12:58:56 AM

I'm noticing a slight plasticy smell after running fans at max for a while
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March 2, 2012 1:37:31 AM

A sort of warm grease smell? Thats normal with new fans/Psu's and usually goes after a few days,
Keep a nose on it though, if it stays and is a burning, there maybe a problem,
Glad to see you figured out a way to up the rpm's man,
Temps are still the same though? Maybe reseating the Hs with better paste is going to help as well though
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March 2, 2012 2:02:29 AM

Yeah that warm grease smell... I will buy some of that Arctic Silver right after I save up and buy that Video card and SSD.

Thanks for all your help guys!
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March 2, 2012 2:02:40 AM

Best answer selected by imtiax.
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March 2, 2012 2:08:38 AM

No probs man, and thankyou for B.a, I'll pm you some cable management ideas when I get home, hopefully get you sorted that way too :-)
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March 2, 2012 3:33:43 AM

You never did say how you applied your thermal paste. Did you use the pea sized dot method? You put a pea size dot in the center of the CPU, place the HS on and move they HS left and right a bit. the HS should spread the thermal paste after you screw everything in without air bubbles. It should give you the perfect amount of paste.
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March 2, 2012 5:49:16 AM

possibly the best thing I can link right now is my build log, pics start about halfway down the first page,
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/311860-13-next
Old rig, again, non modular,


Older pic, I didn't have the 5770 yet, but the pwr wires for the slotfan under the gfx card were fed through one of the mobo screwholes, :) 


but you and another thread I'm working on have inspired me to try and write a C.M. guide, I've an upcoming strip/remodel in the works so the time is perfect to grab some pics and explain my cable management (Bloody insanity) tecniques so thank you for the inspiration man, P.m me any questions you have and I'll try to answer best I can :) 
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