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October 6, 2011 5:18:29 PM

Hey guys!

I am going to buy a new graphics card to play all of the top of the line games (BF3, Skyrim, etc.) and I want something really powerful that will last a few years (or at least will PROBABLY last a few years, I know how things can develop rather quickly). I was hoping the community could help me pick out something really good. I am looking for top of the line stuff here, but if I can get a card that will save me some money at the cost of only a few fps that would be fantastic. I think the specs I will provide will be enough for you guys to help me find a card that will work on my system. Thanks a ton in advance, I am a noob :p 

My specs are as follows:

Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDX945FBGIBOX

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1600C9DHX

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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 5:31:34 PM

A single HD6970 or GTX570 would do well for you. If either of those is too expensive, please specify your budget.
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a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 6:24:56 PM

What resolution are you gaming on?
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a c 214 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 6:40:27 PM

What is your budget?

I would agree with jtt283, a GTX570 would probably be your best options.Although I don't know why he suggested a 6970 since it's more expensive yet it performs the same as a GTX570.

Although a GTX570 might get bottlenecked by your current CPU and I think it would be wise to O.C.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 8:08:17 PM

What's your resolution and what's your budget?
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October 6, 2011 9:35:12 PM

my budget is about $300 max. I would love to get away with $200 or $250 if I can. Also, I am getting a new monitor that can support 1920 x (I forget) resolution
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October 6, 2011 9:38:52 PM

I can go up to $350 I guess. I'm looking at the graphics charts for Metro 2033 1920 x 1080, 4x MSAA, 16xAF, and it seems like those two cards only have about 30fps unless they are crossfired or SLI. Do you guys think I won't be able to get BF3 and skyrim and other high end games up to 50fps without crossfiring?
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October 6, 2011 9:41:42 PM

What do you guys think about this card? Remember, I am trying to get like 50fps on Ultra graphics on all the games coming out in fall 2011
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 9:51:05 PM

Check benchmarks to see if your intended games heavily favor nVidia or ATi (that's why I suggested those two cards; it may depend on the game which you'd prefer).

If you're limited to $250, check out a HD6950 or GTX560Ti. Considering that even "Medium" settings look pretty darn good with even the newest games (e.g. the BF3 beta), I wouldn't be too upset if I had to turn a few settings down to "High" from "Ultra."
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 10:06:39 PM

That's a nice card. I'd buy one; I've had good results from HIS in the past.
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October 6, 2011 10:21:02 PM

It seems like the 570 performs better. Any suggestions on the exact model? I've changed my mind about the price, I am willing to go up to $400 now
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October 6, 2011 10:25:49 PM

Also, my psu is only 600w. I currently have a 1gb radeon hd 4850 and i've never had any problems. I won't have to upgrade that too, will i?
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 10:54:04 PM

^That looks like a decent card choice. Your OCZ PSU should be able to handle it without difficulty.

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a c 214 U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 11:05:51 PM

I forgot he posted his specs.
Yes, your OCZ 600 watt PSU should be able to handle a single GTX570.Just know that you will have to upgrade to a bigger PSU if you decide to SLI.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:51:45 AM

iahwhite said:
What do you guys think about this card? Remember, I am trying to get like 50fps on Ultra graphics on all the games coming out in fall 2011

here's the benchmarks from nVidia for the BF3, as you can see a GTX 570 can max out the game easily, even a GTX 560Ti can get above 40s which i believe that with some overclocks you'll get 50 FPS.
http://www.geforce.com/Optimize/Guides/battlefield-3-be...
with the Exception for the Crysis 2, Metro 2033 you'll be able to max out any game out there. those two games particularly needs a CF/SLI setup
if you're going with a multi GPU setup in the future, i would recommend getting the HD 6970 cause AMD scales better in crossfire than nVidia SLI, and for sure you're going to change your PSU, OCZ StealthXtream & ModXtream have awful reviews about crossfire/SLI and add CoolerMaster GX Series in consideration too.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 9:59:39 AM

Coolermaster GX are NOT good PSUs; the 650W one was described by HardOCP as a "polished turd in a box." Besides, any Coolermaster product should be avoided because the company is dishonest (liar labels on some PSUs, and missing claimed protections; both facts turned up in HardwareSecrets reviews).
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a c 143 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:05:22 PM

Onus said:
Besides, any Coolermaster product should be avoided because the company is dishonest (liar labels on some PSUs, and missing claimed protections; both facts turned up in HardwareSecrets reviews).

Disagree with you in this point. Coolermaster Silent Pro PSUs are one of the bests.Thermaltake are known for their "Toughpower" PSUs which are the bests as well.
OCZ is known for it's "Fatalty1" PSUs. Antec for their "True Power and HCG" PSUs......
Each Brand has advantages and disadvantages, small segment products & high end products.
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a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 3:16:09 PM

ilysaml said:
Disagree with you in this point. Coolermaster Silent Pro PSUs are one of the bests.Thermaltake are known for their "Toughpower" PSUs which are the bests as well.
OCZ is known for it's "Fatalty1" PSUs. Antec for their "True Power and HCG" PSUs......
Each Brand has advantages and disadvantages, small segment products & high end products.

I will +1 you there ; I own a silent pro, and it is a GREAT PSU. I wouldnt buy their other PSU's though.
I use alot of CM products from my case, to case fans, to my hyper 212, i havent found anything negative so far. Then again, i didnt buy a GX from them because i did my research and found the silent pro to be top notch. a friend of mine has a GX, and nothing bad has happened so far (fingers crossed)
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 7:55:22 PM

My comment had nothing to do with the quality of CM (or anyone's) products, only that the facts clearly indicate that Coolermaster is a dishonest company. Based on these facts, it is my opinion that Coolermaster does not deserve anyone's business, regardless of quality of any other products they sell. Fortunately, in every market where Coolermaster is found, there are are competing products with at least equal quality for the price, so you need not take a personal hit for voting with your money against dishonesty.
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a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 8:48:58 PM

im sure he was just emphasizing that although the GX isnt very good, there are other lines they carry that can perform well, not like a personal attack or anything; wasnt the way i saw it anyway is why i agreed
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 9:12:44 PM

Oh, I didn't take it personally, I just wanted to be certain it didn't appear that I was making baseless claims about the performance or quality of anyone's products, that I wouldn't deny that CM has some high-quality stuff, but I'll always advise against it because CM as a company is dishonest.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 9:20:53 PM

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Apologies for putting this in two threads but the first one I put it in is apparently SOLVED and I was afraid no one would see my post/questions there.

I have an Alienware ALX Area-51 with an Extreme i7 processor and a GTX OC 295.

I have two questions that I need help with - thanks in advance.

I am wanting to get into DX11 and the Battlefield 3 "Is your computer ready test" of course tells me that while my card is fast it's on DX10 and if I want the best experience I need to upgrade. Well so I am thinking about it. I understand my card is still fairly good in terms of performance but I do want the DX11 if its going to be a standard tech showing up in all the games.

I play a LOT of games and use my Dell 3100FWP 30" Montitor that is native at 2560x1600. I never multi-screen.

Should I upgrade now or wait is one question, and if upgrade to what and if wait for what?

I also have noticed lately that in CERTAIN games (only specific ones) the fans on the 295 will cycle up pretty loud. The temps on the card according to my Aleinware controls say the card is around the 35C range..but it feels alot hotter to touch, I dont know.

I know that the machine didnt really ever do this before (I've started to notice it lately), or at least I didnt ever notice it. It is because the games I am playing are stressing the card more and its heating up and the fans are just working more? Or is the card starting to fail you think? Once I quit the game and go back to idel the fans quiet down quickly in 10 secs or so.

Not a real problem but concerning.

This issue and the DX11 thing have brought me here hoping to find some real GPU gurus to help a brother out.

I dont have a budget per se other than I want the best value for money option and I prefer a single card solution versus SLI or Crossfire.

thanks
Chris

delete this post after giving us the link for your thread, Don't confuse threads by another questions.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 9:26:55 PM

Attempts to hijack threads will get no answers. Start your own thread if you have questions.
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a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 9:27:36 PM

hey guys my compooter xplodiiied! can you hlp me plzzzzzzzzz???!?!?!?!?!?!!!?
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a c 106 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 11:03:46 PM

For a $300 budget you may want to consider getting two 6850s to run in crossfire. You could even stretch it a bit and go for two 6870s like this one that's 154.99 each after mir

HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either way two 6850s or two 6870s in CF should be plenty of graphics power for your system. I would recommend overclocking your CPU to help it keep up though.
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a c 191 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 11:15:06 PM

Wouldn't a rebate be limited to one per person, or one per address? You'd also have to play the rebate game with a willing friend and hope you both win.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
October 8, 2011 4:16:51 AM

@jtt283 Ah yes there is always that. Even so without the rebate the two cards come out to $329.98 and with one rebate it's $319.98
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