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October 6, 2011 6:47:22 PM

AMD Phenom II X3 720BE overclocked to 3.6Ghz
ASUS M4A78 Mobo
4Gb Patriot Extreme DDR2
ASUS HD4850 512Mb core clock at 700MHz memory 1095MHz

Looking to upgrade my graphics card so i can play bf3, skyrim etc.

options.......

6850 £120
6950 £150
560ti £150

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October 6, 2011 7:09:37 PM

what is the model of your PSU ? what resolution will you be gaming at ?
October 6, 2011 7:14:26 PM

1080p on a 24" samsung monitor

700 W PSU

:) 
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October 6, 2011 7:18:12 PM

so either the GTX 560 Ti or HD 6950 will be your best option to max out some games.
both cards are performing similar to each other depending on the game.
the 2 GB version of the HD 6950 will be helping in VRAM hungry games such as the new GTA, Crysis 2 and will be a more proof for future VRAM hungry games.

and you had better get a quad core CPU, some games such as BF3 is said to be CPU intensive.
October 6, 2011 7:27:22 PM

iv heard that mate, im hoping that my overclocked am3 will do....... fingers crossed lol

i agree the 2gb 6950 will help me be 'futureproof'

the question is which card do i buy. i.e. msi, gigabyte, asus, saphire, etc.

My top limit inc postage is £150, £160 if i cut my hand off lol

thanks for your advce :) 
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October 6, 2011 7:33:49 PM

well, they are all good brands i have been using Sapphire since the Radeon X1900 and i haven't had a problem till now. and sapphire is the best partner for AMD BTW.
Gigabyte, MSI, Asus i guess they offer some factory overclocked GPUs which will be a little higher priced than the normal ones.
so my advice get the cheapest and best cooling one
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October 6, 2011 7:51:36 PM

the twin frozer ii is a good one, and yes you can overclock it easily with eyes closed..lol
unlocking the HD 6950 to HD 6970 is not recommended for non-reference designed cards as they don't have the BIOS switch in case something goes wrong.
October 6, 2011 7:56:00 PM

so is it better to get a reference one and unlock to the XX70 version

which are the reference designs lol
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October 6, 2011 8:01:30 PM

unfortunately there are no reference designed cards in the market :( 
all the new ones come with better cooling solution which give more headroom for overclocking, less noise than reference designed cards.
but the only disadvantage is that there's no a BIOS switch
October 6, 2011 8:03:32 PM

are you sure i cant get away with buying the 6850 and saving myself like £40 lol

i know im a cheap skate :p 
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October 6, 2011 8:03:32 PM

non-reference designed cards were reaching 95C in full load, and were more noisy. but with the ref designed ones i have a sapphire HD 6950 i never ago above 70 in full load
October 6, 2011 8:08:06 PM

challenge for you then my friend.........i live in the UK, please please find me a card in my price range (150/160) on line. iv been looking at 6850s and 6950s etc for 6 hours now :( 

:D 
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October 6, 2011 8:08:18 PM

dunn2k said:
are you sure i cant get away with buying the 6850 and saving myself like £40 lol

i know im a cheap skate :p 

haha i wanted to recommend CF setup in order to enjoy gaming at 1080P without a lag of FPS.
HD 6850 will let you down with the new BF3 and the upcoming games. and it's a garbage GPU because of microstuttering when getting a second one for crossfiring.
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October 6, 2011 8:10:23 PM

dunn2k said:
challenge for you then my friend.........i live in the UK, please please find me a card in my price range (150/160) on line. iv been looking at 6850s and 6950s etc for 6 hours now :( 

:D 

if the Twin Frozer II is in your price range... grab it and enjoy HD gaming
October 6, 2011 8:12:34 PM

lol so im going to have to bite the bullet right and buy a 6950 (or 560 ti? or not lol)

iv found this website http://www.pc-titan.com which seems very cheap. see if you can find one lol

PS: im using 4 Gb DDr2 ram......am i ok?
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October 6, 2011 8:13:58 PM

There's no such thing as "future proof" in the computer world. The 6850 is a powerful card. It compares to the 460 in a'lot of games. Although that may be biased because i have one. But i have heard the horrors of crossfire. And that's one of the reasons i regret buying it.
October 6, 2011 8:41:14 PM

well its a 700 watt switching psu.... a relatively cheap one but not the worst!! sorry i cant remember the brand (do you know how if you cant find it on your computer, iv tried looking for the label!)

sorry by 'future proof' i was merely refering to the 6950 being 2gb....
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October 6, 2011 8:47:19 PM

dunn2k said:
well its a 700 watt switching psu.... a relatively cheap one but not the worst!! sorry i cant remember the brand (do you know how if you cant find it on your computer, iv tried looking for the label!)

sorry by 'future proof' i was merely refering to the 6950 being 2gb....

does it come with cables sleeved ? how many PCI Express connector does it have ? if it's an unknown model i'm sorry i'll have to say you need to get a decent PSU instead of firing out your system.
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October 6, 2011 8:49:40 PM

dunn2k said:
have you over clocked your card? if so to what settings :) 

better you get the GPU first then ask about overclocking :)  anyway i'm hitting 880 MHZ core clock and 1350 Memory clock
October 6, 2011 9:05:41 PM

ilysaml said:
better you get the GPU first then ask about overclocking :)  anyway i'm hitting 880 MHZ core clock and 1350 Memory clock


haha was only asking because at stock they are 800 and factory overclocked generally at 850.....so therefore its wise to buy the cheaper 800 like yourself and overclock..... :) 

im looking up the psu now...but no i dont have sleevded cables :( 
October 6, 2011 9:07:35 PM

ilysaml said:
does it come with cables sleeved ? how many PCI Express connector does it have ? if it's an unknown model i'm sorry i'll have to say you need to get a decent PSU instead of firing out your system.


http://www.ebuyer.com/124927-arctic-power-700w-psu-4x-s...

think i bought that one :) 
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October 6, 2011 9:13:09 PM

so make a budget for a new PSU, this PSU is not capable of handling your GPU and will cause the system to crash. it doesn't even have a PCIe connectors, it's available via adapters which is not recommended for your system.
cheap and garbage PSUs doesn't deliver that wattage
October 6, 2011 9:36:51 PM

hold your horses mate..... it does have a PCIe connection, im using it for my 4850!! and it says so in the description lol. do i still need a new psu because if thats the case im either going to get a different gpu (6850) or not bother and buy a new system lol :) 
October 6, 2011 10:38:29 PM

Just my 2 cents, Built i7 2600k with xfx6850. I've been working with xfx for three weeks to try to get it to work without 3-5 BSODs a day. Crazy making! Cannot recommend 6850.
Larry
October 6, 2011 10:48:35 PM

thanks....... i used xfx many a year ago and i was impressed with their cards, i stay well clear now. iv heard good things about them though.

What card would you suggest for me?? :) 
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October 7, 2011 12:37:20 AM

your PSU is not a branded one, it's a cheap chinese PSU i guess the maximum wattage it can deliver in full load is 300-350W. don't believe what's written on it.
HD 4850 works fine with a high quality 300W PSU, i ran the 9600 GT which was the same as HD 4850 on my dell 305W PSU with the 4 pin molex tp 6 pin adapter.

whether it;s HD 6850/6950 or whatever, get a decent CPU, believe me you don't wanna experience a crashing or heat problems with the system.
even if you don't have the money right now, hold on till you save some.
October 7, 2011 11:03:57 AM

currently my system can play bc2 at high settings at 1080p at 40Fps...........thats not so bad right!?
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October 7, 2011 11:50:37 AM

dunn2k said:
currently my system can play bc2 at high settings at 1080p at 40Fps...........thats not so bad right!?

yes that's great but i you're playing at DX9 mode which has become old fashion in compare with DX11
October 10, 2011 5:11:26 PM

ilysaml said:
yes that's great but i you're playing at DX9 mode which has become old fashion in compare with DX11



hello mate.....well iv finally installed my new MSI 6850 1Gb (£120 with free Deus Ex!) and well i seem to have a small probelm with some 'flickering' on the screen. Its not all the time and its only a few lines of flicker but i can tell somethings not right. Could this be to do with my PSU!!!??? im going to reinstall my old card to see if the flickering disappears but i may need some of your knowledge any way lol :na: 
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October 10, 2011 5:34:48 PM

dunn2k said:
hello mate.....well iv finally installed my new MSI 6850 1Gb (£120 with free Deus Ex!) and well i seem to have a small probelm with some 'flickering' on the screen. Its not all the time and its only a few lines of flicker but i can tell somethings not right. Could this be to do with my PSU!!!??? im going to reinstall my old card to see if the flickering disappears but i may need some of your knowledge any way lol :na: 

It's probably your drivers, do a driver sweep; or the easiest way. Re-install windows! :lol: 
!