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December 3, 2011 12:19:13 AM

I'm getting ready to pill the trigger on this buy early next week. I do realize I can save a ton of $$ by building myself. I don't have the patients or knowledge to even begin that though, so I pay the price for that I know. Just would like to have as close to a top notch computer as possible and be ahead of the current game industry needs. With tax and shipping is around $4,100 total. I had a buget of 4K so lil over. I don't think I will OC anything at this time, plus afraid to, spending this much $$ and all.


Paladin X79 Dr.I

Case 1 x CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full Tower Gaming Case-Black
Case Lighting 1 x Sleeved LED Case Lighting-Red
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction 0 x None-
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion 0 x None-
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i7 3930K Processor (6x 3.20GHz/12MB L3 Cache)-
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive 0 x None-
Processor Cooling 1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-2011]-ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow)
Memory 1 x 32 GB [4 GB X8] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-Corsair Vengeance
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 - 3GB-SLI Mode (Dual Cards)
Video Card Brand 1 x Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA-
Motherboard 1 x [3-Way SLI] ASUS P9X79 Pro -- 4x PCI-E x16, 4x SATA 6Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, On-Board Bluetooth-
Power Supply 1 x 1050 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-1050HX-
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 64 GB ADATA S596 Turbo SSD-Single Drive
Data Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive
Optical Drive 1 x [12X Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive-Black
2nd Optical Drive 0 x None-
Flash Media Reader / Writer 1 x 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer-Black
Meter Display 1 x NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display-
USB Expansion 0 x None-
Sound Card 1 x Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio-
Network Card 1 x Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card-
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel)-64-bit
Keyboard 1 x iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard-
Mouse 1 x iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse-
Monitor 0 x None-
2nd Monitor 0 x None-
Speaker System 0 x None-
Video Camera 0 x None-
Case Engraving Service 0 x None-
Warranty 1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service-
Rush Service 1 x Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee)-[RUSH !!!], Ship Out in 3 Business Days
Subtotal* $3769.00 (plus tax & shipping)

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December 3, 2011 12:29:50 AM

the i7 3930k for gaming? that's a waste of money. I would get the i5-2500k with respectable OC. Put the rest of the money on the gpu and ssd. I think the i7 3930k along with a compatible motherboard is already $1000. You can distribute the money you save into better psu/gpu/ssd/whatever you want
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December 3, 2011 1:18:22 AM

hmm..have me thinking now @ wintermint....does SSD help with Ram? I'm pretty much a noob at this..I was trying to get the latest Intel X79 and the 3960X was basically another $500 bucks..I do see that the i7 3930K is not made for gaming though, now that you brought that to my attn...does 6 cores vs. 4 cores make alot of difference..I am assuming future games it might be needed? I have no idea nor am I brave enough to OC a CPU...@ andrewcarr..ty for advice but that site is way more $$ than Ibuypower and the jump to 590's would be a small diff..and $400 more total in sli..i did upgrade motherboard so it was 3-way sli for future upgrades..all in all the whole point for me was to have possible upgrade room in the future..cause i will be broke for many yrs now..lol..also what about the cache size diff with i5 vs. new i7?
December 3, 2011 1:44:11 AM

SSD isn't with ram its the storage and is much faster than a typical hard drive to decrease the time it takes to open programs and helps a bit in games.
December 3, 2011 1:44:30 AM

wintermint said:
the i7 3930k for gaming? that's a waste of money. I would get the i5-2500k with respectable OC. Put the rest of the money on the gpu and ssd. I think the i7 3930k along with a compatible motherboard is already $1000. You can distribute the money you save into better psu/gpu/ssd/whatever you want



hmm..have me thinking now @ wintermint....does SSD help with Ram? I'm pretty much a noob at this..I was trying to get the latest Intel X79 and the 3960X was basically another $500 bucks..I do see that the i7 3930K is not made for gaming though, now that you brought that to my attn...does 6 cores vs. 4 cores make alot of difference..I am assuming future games it might be needed? I have no idea nor am I brave enough to OC a CPU.....also what about the cache size diff with i5 vs. new i7? Thanks for your advice!!
December 3, 2011 1:48:20 AM

andrewcarr said:
SSD isn't with ram its the storage and is much faster than a typical hard drive to decrease the time it takes to open programs and helps a bit in games.


ah thank you andrew!! appreciate it. So like a SSD Cache - 60gb corsair force series GT sata-III-6gb/s?
December 3, 2011 1:59:48 AM

Here is a PC I configured on Cyber Power should be significantly stronger than the one you customized.
December 3, 2011 2:04:40 AM

Case: * Coolermaster HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port [+125]
Laser Engraving: NONE
Laser Engraving Message:
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA) [+93]
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: High-Performance Non Conductive Coolant powered by Koolance [+19] (UV Red Color [+10])
Motherboard: (4-Way SLI Support) Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, ROG UEFI Bios, BT GO, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1 [+250]
Memory: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX [+31])
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+490] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+646] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 1,500 Watts - SilverStone SST-ST1500 ATX 80 Plus Active PFC Power Supply [+312]
Hard Drive: 120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write [+63] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 600GB Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor 10,000RPM SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache WD6000HLHX [+296] (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: LG 12X Internal Super Multi Blu-Ray Rewriter [+72] (Black Color)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Switch: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS

Total$3776
December 3, 2011 2:12:11 AM

It looks like ya just picked the most expensive things on the list and hoped that $$ = performance ..... but at least ya didn't pick twin 6990's or 590's which are a total waste of cash when paired. There's a lot of top end products on ya list an a few duds.

-932 is well past it's prime, HAF-X would be the one if ya want the HAF
-The HX series from Corsair are great PSU's, with one exception .... the 1050
-Outside benchgmarking competitions, liquid cooling has....shall we say .... "seen its day".
-32 GB is totally uselss outside a workstation
-64 GB SSD's don't belong ina $4k box
-Fancy network card is much ado about nothing



Undoubtedly, the 3960 will beat the 2500k ..... but not enough to justify the investment. Looking for bragging rights for a little while, yeah then it pays but few months down the line a $1500 box will top it.

I'd suggest ya ignore the online shops and find a local custom builder. Here's a $4k build that will knock ya socks off....and price includes three 120 Hz monitors.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-surround.html


Case - $ 290 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 300 - Corsair AX1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 210 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $ 210 - Intel Core i7-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 83 - Thermalright Silver Arrow http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 105 - (2 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 2133 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 490 - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 490 - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked Same
GFX - Maybe Later - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked Same
HD - $ 255 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 310 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - $ 95 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 60 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $ 4,033
December 3, 2011 2:17:13 AM

Were you commenting on what I picked or him?
Never mind realized you meant him.
I fixed most of the problems in his build.
December 3, 2011 2:24:29 AM

andrewcarr said:
Here is a PC I configured on Cyber Power should be significantly stronger than the one you customized.


wow..ty for taking the time to do that Andrew!
December 3, 2011 2:42:31 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
It looks like ya just picked the most expensive things on the list and hoped that $$ = performance ..... but at least ya didn't pick twin 6990's or 590's which are a total waste of cash when paired. There's a lot of top end products on ya list an a few duds.

-932 is well past it's prime, HAF-X would be the one if ya want the HAF
-The HX series from Corsair are great PSU's, with one exception .... the 1050
-Outside benchgmarking competitions, liquid cooling has....shall we say .... "seen its day".
-32 GB is totally uselss outside a workstation
-64 GB SSD's don't belong ina $4k box
-Fancy network card is much ado about nothing



Undoubtedly, the 3960 will beat the 2500k ..... but not enough to justify the investment. Looking for bragging rights for a little while, yeah then it pays but few months down the line a $1500 box will top it.

I'd suggest ya ignore the online shops and find a local custom builder. Here's a $4k build that will knock ya socks off....and price includes three 120 Hz monitors.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-surround.html


Case - $ 290 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 300 - Corsair AX1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 210 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $ 210 - Intel Core i7-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 83 - Thermalright Silver Arrow http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 105 - (2 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 2133 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 490 - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 490 - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked Same
GFX - Maybe Later - EVGA 580 GTX Superclocked Same
HD - $ 255 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 310 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - $ 95 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 60 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $ 4,033



thank you for that Jack!! I was thinking of that i7-2500k O/C and downgrade to 16gb memory ( you selected 8G total of DDR3 2133, is this better due to 2133mhz vs. say 16gb DDR3 1600mhz)? Like that SSD now that I know what it is thanks to andrew/winter. What do I use in place of liquid cooling besides fans? I guess the network card upgrade is worthless? I have a great isp conn. 30-55 Mps..so prob make no diff. thanks...
December 3, 2011 2:54:36 AM

The speed is faster but the difference is minimal for how much it costs and the problems you run into. I wouldn't buy above 1600-1866 for a computer.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-s...
Although there are differences they are only is 2 seconds between 1600 & 2133 for more than double the price.
The reason you do want liquid cooling is because it will make your system significantly quieter the one I linked you too has two liquid cooled graphics cards and a liquid cooled processor. With more than one Graphics card heat is an issue between cards and liquid cooling helps to solve that.
December 3, 2011 2:57:56 AM

andrewcarr said:
The speed is faster but the difference is minimal for how much it costs and the problems you run into. I wouldn't buy above 1600-1866 for a computer.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-s...
Although there are differences they are only is 2 seconds between 1600 & 2133 for more than double the price.


Sweet..thx man!!


December 3, 2011 3:03:41 AM

So what are you considering now are you going to go with a different set up and check back or do you actually feel comfortable building your own as JackNaylorPE suggested.
For what you want in your price range I wouldn't build your own if this is your first build only because of liquid cooling which you would want and the higher chance of destroying components.
December 3, 2011 3:04:53 AM

Ok...take a look at this build now. Keep in mind I will shop around once I have this figured out/picking right stuff thanks to you all!!

Case 1 x CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full Tower Gaming Case-Black - I like this case :) 
Case Lighting 1 x Sleeved LED Case Lighting-Red
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/8MB L3 Cache)-
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive 1 x PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking-
Processor Cooling 1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155]-ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow)
Memory 1 x 16 GB [4 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-Corsair or Major Brand - FREE Upgrade to Corsair XMS3
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 - 3GB-SLI Mode (Dual Cards)
Motherboard 1 x [3-Way SLI] ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z -- 2x Gb LAN, 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16, 8x USB 3.0, On-Board Bluetooth, ucid Virtu Techonology-
Intel Smart Response Technology 1 x SSD Cache - 60 GB Corsair Force Series 3 F60 SATA-III 6Gb/s-
Power Supply 1 x 1200 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-1200AX-
SSD Drive 1 x 240 GB Corsair Force Series 3 F240 SSD-Single Drive
Data Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive
Optical Drive 1 x [12X Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive-Black
Flash Media Reader / Writer 1 x 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer-Black
Meter Display 1 x NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display-
Sound Card 1 x Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio-
Network Card 1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)-
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel)-64-bit
December 3, 2011 3:08:45 AM

What is the total price and the case already has lights on the fans do you really need more? Are you sure you want that brand to build your over others. You don't need a sound card unless you do professional sound editing/ video editing.
December 3, 2011 3:19:16 AM

andrewcarr said:
So what are you considering now are you going to go with a different set up and check back or do you actually feel comfortable building your own as JackNaylorPE suggested.
For what you want in your price range I wouldn't build your own if this is your first build only because of liquid cooling which you would want and the higher chance of destroying components.



Totally agree..not going to build my own for sure!! Feel a hell of lot more comfortable when selecting now though. Alot of money for puter want to be smart as possible..hence why im here..lol..Thanks Andrew been huge help..
December 3, 2011 3:23:50 AM

andrewcarr said:
What is the total price and the case already has lights on the fans do you really need more? Are you sure you want that brand to build your over others. You don't need a sound card unless you do professional sound editing/ video editing.

oh yeah fans have lights..lol..i will take out...i guess i can just go with onboard sound? I use my PC as my home stereo..but onboard these days should be good right?..subtotal is now $3,999.00..lol..went up..about $4400.00 total out the door. The sound card and lights will knock it down about $100 bucks
December 3, 2011 3:33:34 AM

i did choose O/C option and have media center/digital display for fans and 2 glx 580's and 240gb SSD so not bad considering vs. cyberpower. Will the SSD 60GB cache card make diff..i have that as well

got it down to $3573...lowered SSD to 120gb like u had and eliminated cache card
December 3, 2011 3:35:20 AM

What do you mean you have two ssd as only storage?
December 3, 2011 3:42:08 AM

andrewcarr said:
What do you mean you have two ssd as only storage?

1 SSD @ 120gb
I had 1 SSD Cache card but eleminated it though.
December 3, 2011 3:59:20 AM

I actually can't seem to build a computer using the i7-2700k for a better deal than the previous computer I showed you.
December 3, 2011 4:15:30 AM

andrewcarr said:
I actually can't seem to build a computer using the i7-2700k for a better deal than the previous computer I showed you.


No problem Andrew..you did more than enough to help me. I freakin feel much better about making my choice now..thanks again..cheers..I'm getting what I last posted but going to go with this( i7 3960X Processor O/C):

Case 1 x CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full Tower Gaming Case-Black
Case Lighting 0 x None-
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i7 3960X Processor (6x 3.30GHz/15MB L3 Cache)-
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive 1 x PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking-
Processor Cooling 1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-2011]-ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow)
Memory 1 x 8 GB [2 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-** FREE Upgrade to 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3-1600 Corsair XMS3**
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 - 3GB-SLI Mode (Dual Cards)
Motherboard 1 x [3-Way SLI] ASUS P9X79 Pro -- 4x PCI-E x16, 4x SATA 6Gb/s, 4x USB 3.0, On-Board Bluetooth-
Power Supply 1 x 1200 Watt -- Corsair CMPSU-1200AX-
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive
Data Hard Drive 1 x 120 GB Corsair Force Series 3 F120 SSD-Single Drive
Optical Drive 1 x [12X Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive-Black
Flash Media Reader / Writer 1 x 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer-Black
Meter Display 1 x NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display
Sound Card 1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard-
Network Card 1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)-
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel)-64-bit
December 3, 2011 5:04:51 AM

Save yourself some money and get the i7 3930k if you go to overclock that 20% it will be almost as fast as i7 3960k overclock 20% saving yourself $300 you don't need the extra L3 ram. Secondly make sure that liquid cooling system includes liquid cooled video cards since they can be very loud. I would use some of the money you saved to get the motherboard (4-Way SLI Support) Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, ROG UEFI Bios, BT GO, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1. Are the graphics cards the 580 1.5GB version it isn't worth an extra $100 per card to get the 3 GB version. You want a name brand power supply SivlerStone is a good brand. Make sure when you actually buy it your primary hard drive is the SSD it will use this space first when the operating system and vital programs are installed then you can chose to put games and other applications you use a lot on it. For a second hard drive I would get a high performance VelociRaptor drive and when prices of hard drives go down if you need extra space then put in a 1TB drive for $90 (about next summer prices go down).
December 3, 2011 5:09:20 AM

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Case: * Coolermaster HAF-X Gaming Full Tower Case w/ 1x230mm Fan, 1x200mm Fans, 2xFront USB 3.0 Port [+125]
Laser Engraving: NONE
Laser Engraving Message:
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3930K 3.20 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]
Cooling Fan: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA) [+93]
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: (4-Way SLI Support) Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ ROG Connect, ROG UEFI Bios, BT GO, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1 [+250]
Memory: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX [+31])
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+363] (EVGA Superclocked [+9])
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+519] (EVGA Superclocked [+9])
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 1,500 Watts - SilverStone SST-ST1500 ATX 80 Plus Active PFC Power Supply [+312]
Hard Drive: 120GB Corsair Force Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 550MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write [+86] (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 600GB Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor 10,000RPM SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache WD6000HLHX [+296] (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: LG 12X Internal Super Multi Blu-Ray Rewriter [+92] (Black Color)
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Switch: None
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Black USB Gaming Keyboard [+63]
Mouse: Razer Imperator Ergonomic 5600 DPI Laser Gaming Mouse [+67]
Mouse Pad: Razer Goliathus Fragged Standard Mouse Pad - Speed [+17]
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: NZXT Sentry LX Aluminum High Performance Fan Control, Clock, & Temperature Display [+69]
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: * OPTI-UPS TS2250B 2000VA/1200W Uninterruptible Power Supply [+209]
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
December 3, 2011 5:39:39 AM

After updating everything I would get this is what I got. If I had the money in my pocket right now.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DQ9E0
Now to explain.
Case- one of the best models out there excellent cooling and looks nice too.
CPU- as I said not worth the extra money that same money helps you buy better components in other places.
Cooling- For quiet and great performance you want both CPU and GPU (graphics processing unit) to be liquid cooled. Worth the extra money for upgraded coolant because if it ever hits components it doesn't conduct electricity and won't hurt them in any way.
Motherboard- Provides ability to add for the future so you can add the third GPU if you want and can hold the sound card if you ever need it and even two more add on cards (very good brand and one of best models, superior reliability).
Memory- Worth the extra money to know exactly what ram you are getting Kingston is a good brand and this is their gaming memory. 16GB shouldn't need to be upgraded ever.
Video card- SLI of 580 1.5GB to save money but the overclocked version add some performance to make it better than some others out there for only $9 per card.
Power supply- You will want to have the extra power for upgrades in the future although you would be ok with the 1200w SilverStone power supply.
Hard drives- SSD holds the most used programs that need the extra speed but the secondary hard drive is no slouch it is one of fastest mechanical drives you can buy. Most people will never use even 300 GB on a computer. Other SSD's just cost more without significant performance increases so don't bother getting most expensive 120GB model.
Drives- Have a CD/DVD re-write and a Blue Ray drive re-write no need to upgrade to a Blue Ray drive in the future.
Sound- On board sound is now very good and doesn't need to be upgraded.
Keyboard, Mouse, Mouse Pad- Optional but good ones for gaming and enhanced look of components.
Extra Display- You have full control over the fans if you want them quieter and you can monitory your system temperature.
Card reader- Internal so you can read SD cards without USB adapter.
Power Protection- This is optional but highly recommended. Reason is for a computer this expensive you want to do everything you can to protect it. This helps for power surges, brief power lapses and if your power goes out you will have about 15min -30 min to turn off your computer and save what you are working on.
Operating System- You don't need more than home premium the others only give you features used on networked computers and xp mode.

There it all is you have options to save money although this is what I personally would get. Don't forget some parts do have rebates you can send in to get some money back.

Before a big purchase like this I would call them to make sure you are getting everything you want.
December 3, 2011 3:17:00 PM

andrewcarr said:
After updating everything I would get this is what I got. If I had the money in my pocket right now.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1DQ9E0
Now to explain.
Case- one of the best models out there excellent cooling and looks nice too.
CPU- as I said not worth the extra money that same money helps you buy better components in other places.
Cooling- For quiet and great performance you want both CPU and GPU (graphics processing unit) to be liquid cooled. Worth the extra money for upgraded coolant because if it ever hits components it doesn't conduct electricity and won't hurt them in any way.
Motherboard- Provides ability to add for the future so you can add the third GPU if you want and can hold the sound card if you ever need it and even two more add on cards (very good brand and one of best models, superior reliability).
Memory- Worth the extra money to know exactly what ram you are getting Kingston is a good brand and this is their gaming memory. 16GB shouldn't need to be upgraded ever.
Video card- SLI of 580 1.5GB to save money but the overclocked version add some performance to make it better than some others out there for only $9 per card.
Power supply- You will want to have the extra power for upgrades in the future although you would be ok with the 1200w SilverStone power supply.
Hard drives- SSD holds the most used programs that need the extra speed but the secondary hard drive is no slouch it is one of fastest mechanical drives you can buy. Most people will never use even 300 GB on a computer. Other SSD's just cost more without significant performance increases so don't bother getting most expensive 120GB model.
Drives- Have a CD/DVD re-write and a Blue Ray drive re-write no need to upgrade to a Blue Ray drive in the future.
Sound- On board sound is now very good and doesn't need to be upgraded.
Keyboard, Mouse, Mouse Pad- Optional but good ones for gaming and enhanced look of components.
Extra Display- You have full control over the fans if you want them quieter and you can monitory your system temperature.
Card reader- Internal so you can read SD cards without USB adapter.
Power Protection- This is optional but highly recommended. Reason is for a computer this expensive you want to do everything you can to protect it. This helps for power surges, brief power lapses and if your power goes out you will have about 15min -30 min to turn off your computer and save what you are working on.
Operating System- You don't need more than home premium the others only give you features used on networked computers and xp mode.

There it all is you have options to save money although this is what I personally would get. Don't forget some parts do have rebates you can send in to get some money back.

Before a big purchase like this I would call them to make sure you are getting everything you want.




Yeah, you have me looking at this build now for sure. Does this company use refurbished parts? Would I even notice diff. between a i7-3930K and a i7-3960X? I would think not for $480+. i7-3960X is "extreme edition" does that make a big diff. O/C 3930K should be plenty anyway. Oh, and with this Motherboard I can upgrade Intel CPU when new ones come out in future right? I figure the X79 is the latest chipset so should be useful for awhile? Sorry for all the questions.
December 3, 2011 4:45:16 PM

No problem. No this company doesn't use refurbished parts. Even Tomshardware doesn't recommend the 3960k because it is "past the point of reason"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-overcloc...
You can upgrade to future parts but intel doesn't have their sockets as upgrade able and tents to release new sockets a lot. But you shouldn't have to upgrade this CPU for a long time it is the second best you can buy and won't be beaten for a while. I went with the other company because I would prefer to buy from them myself. If they don't have a store in your state you won't have to pay for tax and then its just the $75 ground shipping fee (ground can be as fast as others depending on how far away you live from where it is built).
December 3, 2011 10:02:49 PM

andrewcarr said:
No problem. No this company doesn't use refurbished parts. Even Tomshardware doesn't recommend the 3960k because it is "past the point of reason"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-overcloc...
You can upgrade to future parts but intel doesn't have their sockets as upgrade able and tents to release new sockets a lot. But you shouldn't have to upgrade this CPU for a long time it is the second best you can buy and won't be beaten for a while. I went with the other company because I would prefer to buy from them myself. If they don't have a store in your state you won't have to pay for tax and then its just the $75 ground shipping fee (ground can be as fast as others depending on how far away you live from where it is built).


Great thanks for that!! Looks like Im pulling the trigger on the link u gave me. I upgraded the GPU's to 580 3G x2, other than that left alone...Thank you again Andrew!!!!
December 4, 2011 2:23:45 AM

Your welcome, you will have a great gaming computer that won't need to be upgraded at all for at least two to three years.
December 5, 2011 11:20:26 PM

Apparently my $4200 is not an important sale for Cyberpowerpc. I called this morning and was told their Sales Dept was busy and someone would call me back after I left my number with him. Well nobody ever called me. I have also sent them 2 emails with no reply. Not getting that "warm fuzzy feeling" out the gate.
December 5, 2011 11:47:33 PM

Problem may be you use up all their good components and they have to get more in. But really they said if you don't pay extra it takes about two to three weeks to ship out. Just noticed you could have gotten 5% off if you don't mind waiting three weeks for it to ship. Right now its ready to ship in 10-15 business days. They are probably flooded with Christmas orders.

Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS


NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
5% Instant Rebate; READY TO SHIP IN 3 WEEKS Must Enter Coupon Code NORUSH during checkout [+0]
GUARANTEED CHRISTMAS DELIVERY -- CyberPower will guarantee delivery on or before Christmas [+49]
December 6, 2011 12:11:06 AM

Well than no order from them, I would hate to use up all their good components..lol..My main problem and point is no call back..I am a Customer Service Manager and cringe when I see these things...very disappointed...1st impressions are everything!!
December 6, 2011 2:02:27 AM

Well I hope they get back to you.
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