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October 6, 2011 11:06:20 PM

Hi guys, I'm sure you have seen a million of posts like this before, but im afraid here is another! I basically just want a new graphics card, i'v upgraded my PC recently to these specs,
6gb Ram, a 1Tb hard-drive, I5 processor, and i think the current graphics card is a Intel HD 20.
I'm a complete computer noob so any help would be great!
I have a mirai monitor, roughly 19" so i think maybe the resolution is around 1,280 x 1,024?
I'm looking to spend between £120-200, as im looking to play most modern games comfortably!
thanks for your time!

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a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 11:15:22 PM

what games are you wanting to play.
Battlefield 3, MW3, RPG Games?

do you have a preference for online store to buy from? so we can link products from that store.
October 6, 2011 11:20:51 PM

Hi mate,
Erm.. yeah battefield 3, Arma 2, Skyrim, etc you know, those sorts of games, and no i don't mate :) !
Cheers
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a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2011 11:30:20 PM

At that resolution, most high-end cards are overkill and a waste of money. I would get a GTX 460 or HD 6870 and below. They are around £110.
October 6, 2011 11:34:49 PM

you think?.. i mean that resolution was a rough guess dude
October 6, 2011 11:45:42 PM

the graphics you have i think is a intel hd 2000, this is not a card, its inbuilt to your i5 processor, before you add a card check your power supply is big enough (over 400w at least), and make sure your motherboard has a full size pci-e slot

if its all good have a look at the 560ti, its got better dx11 performance over the 400 series, better for newer games
and AbdullahG is right, if your not gonna get a bigger monitor a 460 will do fine
i think getting a 24" monitor should be your next goal as most new games are practically designed for 1920x1080 these days
October 7, 2011 12:07:42 AM

i see i see, okay so check my power supply can handle the card, and that the card can fit, and basically your saying with my monitor, i don't need anything over the 400 series?
so look at 560ti? or the 460 ?
October 7, 2011 12:57:52 AM

whatever in your price range, the 560 is just a updated 460 that runs cooler uses a little bit less power and has a bit better performance

look here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-...

560ti is best value for money in that price range, there's also some ati cards but i know less about them
a c 376 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 1:58:52 AM

Unless you are going to upgrade the monitor in the not too distant future you would be simply wasting money by getting anything more powerful than an HD6850/GTX 460. Even those are overkill really. For your current monitor something like an HD6770 would be the best choice for the money and give you excellent performance.
October 7, 2011 11:43:45 AM

Ok guys, I'm going to have a look at the 6850, and the 560!
thanks very much for your help, if i upgrade my monitor I will let you know!
cheers for all the replys and help
Peace
October 7, 2011 11:54:03 AM

Hey guys,
so sorry, before my rough guess of the resolution was wrong, ha, it kicks out about 1680 x 1050, does this affect what card i select in anyway~?
October 7, 2011 11:57:13 AM

The delights of being a PC- noob! :')
October 7, 2011 11:59:24 AM

If you are not planning to play battlefield 3 kind of games on maxed out settings, then that cards are fine. medium settings will be smooth enough to play.
First, check your power supply wattage..!!
October 7, 2011 12:06:44 PM

ah crap, i just looked at the wattage it's only 350 :/  also i think im going to be limited by the PCI slots, which are:
PCI-E x1 slots (free) 2 (2)
PCI-E x16 slots (free) 1 (1)
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:11:04 PM

I agree with jyjjy. Even at 1680x1050, a HD6770 will do very well.
The strongest card you might safely run on an unknown PSU that has no PCIE power connector (NEVER use adapters in this case!) is a HD6670. This card will handle any older games on your current resolution, but newer ones will need their settings turned down to no better than "Medium." The screen shots I've seen of games like the BF3 beta, WoW, and SC2 show them looking pretty darn good at only medium, so if you cannot afford to also upgrade the PSU you'll still be able to enjoy your games. With a budget of 200GBP though, I think you should be able to afford a HD6850 or GTX460 and a quality 500W PSU like an Antec Earthwatts or Corsair Builder. At the lower end of 120GBP, a HD6770 and a good 430W-500W PSU should be in reach.

Edit: Your PSU can handle a HD6670. If it has a PCIE power cable (unlikely), it may be able to handle a HD6770; do you know what brand and model it is?
October 7, 2011 12:12:50 PM

You have one PCI-e X16, and 350watt power supply.
I think you can get a decent card for that build.
Go for ATI radeon HD 5450 1GB. That can be possible to run on a 350watt PSU.
Or see if you can change your PSU to a better one.
October 7, 2011 12:15:29 PM

Thanks for the advice guys! :) 
ok so like you said, i think I want to upgrademy PSU so i can therefore run a better card, but do you know of any good website's where i an purchase one? or what kind of PSU's i need to be looking at, as im thinking something around 600w?
October 7, 2011 12:17:40 PM

What company does your PSU belongs to? Because if it really delivers 350 watt fully, then ATI 5450 1GB or maybe 2GB will support it too..!!
October 7, 2011 12:18:27 PM

or is that to high? :')
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:19:51 PM

You won't need a 600W PSU unless you're looking at video cards MUCH stronger than you need, like a HD6970 or GTX580.
A quality model in the 500W range is sufficient for anything else; 450W for a HD6850 or GTX460. A quality modern PSU has full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and some level of 80+ certification for efficiency. Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, and Enermax/LEPA are among the better brands. FSP has some good models too, and I think they are available across the pond.
October 7, 2011 12:21:08 PM

okay, the computer i have currently is an advent dt1308! hope this helps?
October 7, 2011 12:22:41 PM

Onus said:
You won't need a 600W PSU unless you're looking at video cards MUCH stronger than you need, like a HD6970 or GTX580.
A quality model in the 500W range is sufficient for anything else; 450W for a HD6850 or GTX460. A quality modern PSU has full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and some level of 80+ certification for efficiency. Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, XFX, and Enermax/LEPA are among the better brands. FSP has some good models too, and I think they are available across the pond.


awesome, cheers dude!
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:25:58 PM

Chirag, a HD5450 is NOT a gaming card; it is suitable for a HTPC but not games. The weakest card the OP should consider is the HD6670. On a budget, with less than maxed settings, it would not be insufferable. Fwiw, my mostly older games (e.g. Guild Wars, UT2K4) can be maxed, including AA, at 1920x1080 using a HD6670. Newer games will definitely need something stronger to play maxed, but don't be convinced by people with more money than sense that you "need" a 200GBP GPU to enjoy games. Get what you can comfortably afford.
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 12:39:13 PM

The page isn't loading properly for me, so I can't see the price; it may be a great deal. Otherwise, it is overkill. There's a PSU sizing calculator at http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.js... that will show you that you'd be hard pressed to need anywhere near 600W.
I found the specs on your system. There's no PCIE power cable on your PSU, so either replace it, or limit your GPU to a HD6670.
October 7, 2011 12:40:32 PM

Onus said:
Chirag, a HD5450 is NOT a gaming card; it is suitable for a HTPC but not games. The weakest card the OP should consider is the HD6670. On a budget, with less than maxed settings, it would not be insufferable. Fwiw, my mostly older games (e.g. Guild Wars, UT2K4) can be maxed, including AA, at 1920x1080 using a HD6670. Newer games will definitely need something stronger to play maxed, but don't be convinced by people with more money than sense that you "need" a 200GBP GPU to enjoy games. Get what you can comfortably afford.


But his PSU cant handle HD6670, thats why I suggested him to change the PSU if possible. Of course, its his choice, we can suggest him anything, but he's finally gonna pay for that. nd he needs to be comfortable with that price though..!!
October 7, 2011 12:48:00 PM

Onus said:
The page isn't loading properly for me, so I can't see the price; it may be a great deal. Otherwise, it is overkill. There's a PSU sizing calculator at http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.js... that will show you that you'd be hard pressed to need anywhere near 600W.
I found the specs on your system. There's no PCIE power cable on your PSU, so either replace it, or limit your GPU to a HD6670.


Okay mate, going to go down to PC world today and get a new PSU unit, something with a PCIE power cable on it, and around 450W+
Thanks for your help, once i'v purchased a new PSU, I'll then take a look at the gtx460 or the HD6850
October 7, 2011 12:52:39 PM

pl3cky said:
Okay mate, going to go down to PC world today and get a new PSU unit, something with a PCIE power cable on it, and around 450W+
Thanks for your help, once i'v purchased a new PSU, I'll then take a look at the gtx460 or the HD6850


A wise decision indeed..!! :) 
October 7, 2011 12:58:21 PM

ahhah, thanks for all the helps guys, been awesome!
anything above those cards, i wouldn't gain any performance because of the resolution my card kicks out, it would just be power i don't use so to speak?
(just making sure i understand the reasons im buying all this gear haha)
and the reason i need a new PSU is because my current one doesn't support the cards today and my pc needs a little more 'firepower' behind it?
October 7, 2011 12:58:42 PM

*screen kicks out (not card)
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 1:20:32 PM

Ok, if you get a quality 450W PSU (Antec has a 430W Earthwatts that is often discounted over here), you can run a HD6850 or GTX460. If you choose the latter, make sure it isn't the "SE" version, which is cut-down from the standard card.
Note that the GTX460 uses two PCIE power cables, but it would be safe to use an adapter on one of them if necessary (although the 500W Antec Earthwatts has two PCIE power cables).
October 7, 2011 2:47:10 PM

erm.. i went a bit over board and bought a 780W PSU =)
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 3:15:48 PM

Hmmm, what brand and model? If it has a little voltage switch on it, it may be an obsolete, inefficient, overrated design.
October 7, 2011 3:39:21 PM

it doesn't by the looks of it no, it's a G7 Power extreme, was in Maplins for 40quid, seemed cheap, and good for the money
a c 197 U Graphics card
October 7, 2011 3:54:51 PM

I've never heard of that brand. Does it have any level of 80+ certification for efficiency? In a tub of water, would it sink like a rock or does it feel almost light enough to float?
Edit: Hmmm, found Maplin's page...passive rather than active PFC...
Well, you're not going to stress it. You'll likely be safe if you treat it like a 550W PSU, which is still more than you need.
October 7, 2011 10:28:10 PM

if it does, where would it tell me on the PSU itself or on the box ha?
hahah, im not sure, it wasn't that heavy, but wasn't light? it's like it might float for a time, before slowly sinking to the bottom ;) 
yeah so all is well :') now to get a graphics card!
October 7, 2011 10:35:45 PM

what card am i looking at now with this kind of PSU, still a GTX460, or HD6850?
I'v seen a cheap GTX 550, are they any good?
Cheers
!