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December 3, 2011 2:17:58 AM

Okay first off I started a thread in the graphics cards section here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

I was wanting a computer that could play the game Empire:Total War.

SPECS:Minimum System Requirements

Supported OS: Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista™ or Windows 7™
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel® Pentium® or greater or AMD® Athlon® equivalent CPU, with SSE2 instruction
Memory: 1 GB RAM (XP,) 2 GB RAM (Vista™)
Graphics: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible hardware accelerated video card with shader version 2.0 support, 256 MB video memory
Display: Minimum screen resolution of 1024 x 768 pixels
Sound: Directx9.0c compatible sound card
Hard Drive: 15 GB free hard disk space formatted as NTFS
Peripherals: Windows compatible mouse and keyboard

Recommended Requirements

Supported OS: Windows® XP Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista™ or Windows 7™
Processor: 2.4 GHz Intel® Core 2 Duo® or greater or AMD® Athlon64® equivalent CPU, with SSE2 instruction
Memory: 3 GB RAM (XP,) 4 GB RAM (Vista™)
Graphics: 100% DirectX 9.0c compatible hardware accelerated video card with shader version 3.0 support, 512 MB video memory
Display: Minimum screen resolution of 1280 x 1024 pixels
Sound: Directx9.0c compatible sound card
Hard Drive: 15 GB free hard disk space formatted as NTFS
Peripherals: Windows compatible mouse and keyboard

My question became more and more about the CPU though so I'm starting a thread here to focus on that instead.

In that thread the user 384-BiT gave me a great workable solution which I will quote.

Quote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129098


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] ir%20cx500


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161377


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231122


OK with the above products this is what i would do:
Take all the components out of that slim chassis and put it in the ATX case, then add the 6790.
This is the cheapest workable solution i can think of right now.
I added that psu so that the card will work with no issues of not enough power.
I am not sure if that motherboard will fit the ATX case though..


I asked my tech man for a second opinion but he hasn't gotten back with me so, Would this really be probable?
I mean I believe 384-BiT but I just want a second opinion.

My second question is that since making that thread the computer in question has been sold so I have to find a substitute so:

Would these suffice and which would be better?:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gateway-ClientPro-E-4620D-Tower...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gateway-E-4610S-Desktop-PC-Comp...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-OPTIPLEX-360-2-5GHz-160GB-...

As listed on that previous thread my budget is $400-$450, but those parts together cost $294. So that just leaves $100-$150 at the most.

That's why I was looking at eBay.

I am computer illiterate but by reading a few other boards I know my question seems impossible.

Gaming PC for under $500 dollars?

Truth be told I don't care about playing it on Mega Ultra settings. Just enough to have a stable lag-less experience with medium graphics.

I will be online as much as possible to answer questions


"WAIT a minute!!!"


Or as an alternative, Deemo 13 helpfully pointed out that I could just build my own PC. He gave me this example:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 1_B69-0483

Then a video card and Windows 7 64 bit. (Though I wonder if Windows XP Professional would suffice.)

I think this would be better as stated in the bottom of my original thread at the top.

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December 3, 2011 7:37:28 AM

Update: Well It appears that Deemo 13 has gone beyond what I was wanting/expecting. Awesome. :) 

Maybe I shouldn't have opened "this" thread and had more patience... :(  srry
December 3, 2011 9:25:22 AM

jackpapa said:
Update: Well It appears that Deemo 13 has gone beyond what I was wanting/expecting. Awesome. :) 

Maybe I shouldn't have opened "this" thread and had more patience... :(  srry


So WIN 7 64 bit is what you will probably want to run as you can have more than 4 gigs of ram available. You can get 8 gigs for about $30-40 so there's really no reason to not do so.
Win 7 pro has some features not available in home premium, mainly virtualization for me was a big seller plus I was able to get a discount as a student. Ultimate is overpriced and not many of us will use the features above and beyond what pro can provide. Home premium would probably suit you fine.

The link here for the proposed machine on Tiger direct was not working, but you can easily build a quality budget gaming machine for $500, in fact they do it every quarter here on toms. I don't know about building a PC for one game, seems like a bad idea but I'll assume that this game is just one requirement. In which case, it has very modest system requirements.

If you wanted something that would not ask much in power, I'd recommend looking at the HD 5670. At $80 its the fastest video card without needing a PCI express power connector. It should game just fine at 1080p for most titles except the most demanding.
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December 3, 2011 12:21:39 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
December 3, 2011 5:15:39 PM

Oh they moved the tiger link here it is:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Is Windows 7 better for games or is it like vista?

And I said I wanted to build a computer to play Empire: Total war but, I was going to play other things too. (Empire is just the highest computer demanding game that I wanted to play.)

And do I want something with less power. (Is that better?)
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