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December 5, 2011 1:30:50 AM

I am trying to build a Gaming PC, and I need some input. Also can you guys help me find a reliable, cheap 500GB HDD. Also I am trying to find a modular, 80 +, PSU. One more thing: I need to cut the cost of this system, any tips. BTW I will be overclocking, but not now.
Here is my system:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: http://www.amazon.com/Technologies-Classic-Midtower-Cha...

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Operating System: http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

I wanna keep this under 800 bucks, hopefully around 700$-750
I am going to use my old DVD burner.
Thanks Guys

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December 5, 2011 1:36:28 AM

What's your max budget? And are you getting everything from Newegg or not? I can suggest better parts if I have that.
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December 5, 2011 1:36:50 AM

Drop the case down to a $50 Rosewill case or another one you like its kind of the only area to save money in
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December 5, 2011 1:38:54 AM

g-unit1111 said:
What's your max budget? And are you getting everything from Newegg or not? I can suggest better parts if I have that.

My max budget is 800$ I am getting most of it from newegg or amazon
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December 5, 2011 1:43:15 AM

Are you going to reuse a PSU or gonna get a new one?
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December 5, 2011 1:44:01 AM

if you are only on a budget of under 800s ever think of going AMD? You can get more bang for your buck imo.. But then again I am not a IT guys but I have made 3 gaming computers before all ASUS.

Tigerdirect is a good websight. Their prices are more competitive.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/catego...
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December 5, 2011 1:51:02 AM

Emelth said:
Are you going to reuse a PSU or gonna get a new one?

I am gonna get a new one
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December 5, 2011 2:36:20 AM

What about NCIX? Make sure you sign up for their email list. You can get i5-2500K's for $180 through them fairly regularly. They'll always give you some kind of deal if you try a Micro Center price match through them.

Do you need a CPU cooler?

Why don't you reuse your old HDD?

Since you need Windows and HDD's cost $150 now, I think a Phenom II x4 960T Zosma for $110 (may unlock to hexacore) is probably going to give you the best gaming rig.
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December 5, 2011 2:38:48 AM

Emelth said:
Drop the case down to a $50 Rosewill case or another one you like its kind of the only area to save money in


Absolutely not. I do not trust about 90% of Rosewill's products. Go with a Cooler Master HAF 912 or Antec 300 for that price.

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Also I am trying to find a modular, 80 +, PSU. One more thing: I need to cut the cost of this system, any tips. BTW I will be overclocking, but not now.


For that price you will not be getting a modular 80+ PSU as they run in the $100 - $150 range even on the basic models.

Try this build:

Case: Antec 300 - $59.99
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 - $59.99
Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 - $129.99
CPU: 3.1Ghz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 - $25.99
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz - $59.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $109.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 - $144.99

Total: $785.15
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December 5, 2011 2:41:23 AM

Two things you may not be aware of that might not get brought up:
USB 3.0 in the case
Internal USB 3.0 headers on the mobo
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December 5, 2011 2:44:20 AM

dalauder said:
Two things you may not be aware of that might not get brought up:
USB 3.0 in the case
Internal USB 3.0 headers on the mobo


That's not really that important yet. Most cases don't have USB 3.0 ports and the ones that do are very expensive. Most cases that *DO* are either through a mounted 5.25" bracket or allow you to purchase the bracket separately (Cooler Master allows you to).

And just about all Z68 boards have internal USB 3.0 headers so that's not really an issue. In fact a lot of newer Z68 and 990FX boards give you a front 5.25" mounting bracket with two USB 3.0 connectors.
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December 5, 2011 3:02:25 AM

g-unit1111 said:
That's not really that important yet. Most cases don't have USB 3.0 ports and the ones that do are very expensive. Most cases that *DO* are either through a mounted 5.25" bracket or allow you to purchase the bracket separately (Cooler Master allows you to).

And just about all Z68 boards have internal USB 3.0 headers so that's not really an issue. In fact a lot of newer Z68 and 990FX boards give you a front 5.25" mounting bracket with two USB 3.0 connectors.
Nice reflex response without actually checking on what I was talking about. I brought it up because lots of people aren't aware that USB 3.0 cases are getting cheaper and not all Z68 boards (ASRock Extreme 3 Gen3 for example) have it.

This Rosewill was $49.99 with USB 3.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And there's several cases in the $60's that have USB 3.0 nowadays.

EDIT: Some more cases w/ USB 3.0...
$55 (+ shipping): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 5, 2011 3:48:14 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Absolutely not. I do not trust about 90% of Rosewill's products. Go with a Cooler Master HAF 912 or Antec 300 for that price.

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Also I am trying to find a modular, 80 +, PSU. One more thing: I need to cut the cost of this system, any tips. BTW I will be overclocking, but not now.


For that price you will not be getting a modular 80+ PSU as they run in the $100 - $150 range even on the basic models.

Try this build:

Case: Antec 300 - $59.99
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 - $59.99
Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 - $129.99
CPU: 3.1Ghz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 - $25.99
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600MHz - $59.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $109.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 - $144.99

Total: $785.15
If he's open to overclocking, I think we should suggest Phenom II Zosma's at this price point. If we want CPUs that don't OC, I think an i3-2100 is more useful (and cost effective) for a gaming build.

Also, OP--you should buy parts as they come up on sale to get the most out of a build at this price point. So buy all your parts over the course of two weeks or so.
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December 5, 2011 5:52:10 PM

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Nice reflex response without actually checking on what I was talking about. I brought it up because lots of people aren't aware that USB 3.0 cases are getting cheaper and not all Z68 boards (ASRock Extreme 3 Gen3 for example) have it.


True, but there aren't a whole lot of cases on the market that support it natively yet. Like I said most only do through a mounted 5.25" bracket. Even the Corsair case I got (Graphite 600T) doesn't have front USB 3.0 ports.

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If he's open to overclocking, I think we should suggest Phenom II Zosma's at this price point. If we want CPUs that don't OC, I think an i3-2100 is more useful (and cost effective) for a gaming build.


Certainly not a bad choice at all - either one. I'm running an i3-2120 on my workstation (Intel Z68-based) and it is quite an excellent CPU. My home system is AMD 990FX-based running a Phenom II x6 1055. I really like both systems so far.

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Also, OP--you should buy parts as they come up on sale to get the most out of a build at this price point. So buy all your parts over the course of two weeks or so.


Especially now that black Friday and cyber Monday have come and gone. It's certainly not a bad idea at all with stores running sales like crazy throughout the rest of the year. I got my Gigabyte 990FX board for $40 off at a Newegg post-Thanksgiving sale.
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December 5, 2011 6:03:37 PM

Also which brand of HDD is more reliable: seagate or Western Digital
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December 5, 2011 6:06:23 PM

dalauder said:
What about NCIX? Make sure you sign up for their email list. You can get i5-2500K's for $180 through them fairly regularly. They'll always give you some kind of deal if you try a Micro Center price match through them.

Do you need a CPU cooler?

Why don't you reuse your old HDD?

Since you need Windows and HDD's cost $150 now, I think a Phenom II x4 960T Zosma for $110 (may unlock to hexacore) is probably going to give you the best gaming rig.

I might try NCIX but im not sure what it is... is it legit? I am gonna get a CPU cooler later on when i actually overclock, and I am selling my Dell, so I need to keep the HDD in it
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December 5, 2011 7:20:41 PM

techandoutdoors259 said:
I was thinking of this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
But after G-unit said its not good, IDK if its worth it


Pay the extra $10 and go for the Antec 300 - it will be a much better choice in the long run.

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Also which brand of HDD is more reliable: seagate or Western Digital


Both brands will work just fine. I've used plenty of both and I haven't really found much of a difference in the manufacturers. If you can get a Samsung Spinpoint (doubtful - they just sold to Seagate) those are great drives as well. The ones you want to avoid are Hitachi and IBM.
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December 5, 2011 7:48:28 PM

Dont skimp on the case if that is important to you. I went with a NXZT phantom and i like it so far (nearly have all my stuff and am going to start building tomorrow). I think it is pretty high quality. Do you have to have that front door open to get airflow to those front fans though? My nxzt phantom does not have usb 3.0 on front and my ASrock extreme 3 z68 does not have usb 3.0 headers so it is all good. I do not transfer stuff onto a flash drive very often. Good luck with your build. Ps get a i5-2500k everyone is doing it
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December 5, 2011 10:31:56 PM

I was originally going for the AMD Radeon 6870 but I hear the 6850 is also good: which one has better graphics quality.
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December 5, 2011 10:43:40 PM

techandoutdoors259 said:
I was originally going for the AMD Radeon 6870 but I hear the 6850 is also good: which one has better graphics quality.


They're pretty much the exact same GPU. Either one is still a really good choice for the money.
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December 6, 2011 1:16:05 AM

techandoutdoors259 said:
I might try NCIX but im not sure what it is... is it legit? I am gonna get a CPU cooler later on when i actually overclock, and I am selling my Dell, so I need to keep the HDD in it
NCIX is as legit. You don't need to be any more worried about them than you are about Tiger Direct or Frys.

You don't need to keep the HDD in your Dell. Just use it for now and save yourself a bunch of money, then buy a new HDD when they drop in price and put a fresh copy of Windows on the Dell when you get ready to sell it.

The Dell likely has a sticker on it with the OEM Windows key. You can reinstall that version of Windows (probably XP Home?) and use that key when you're ready to sell it.
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December 6, 2011 1:25:26 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Absolutely not. I do not trust about 90% of Rosewill's products. Go with a Cooler Master HAF 912 or Antec 300 for that price.


Ive used Rosewill cases before with no problem, I helped friends build Rigs with Rosewill cases as well and they had no problem. Just because you dont like them doesnt mean that they arent good.
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December 6, 2011 2:00:30 AM

I like the Thermaltake V4 that my friend got. That and the V3 are the cheapest decent cases that you'll find--outside of particularly awesome deals. That Antec 300 is a little more, but a little nicer. Sometimes the Antec 300 Illusion is on sale for $45--you'd want to pick up something like that if you get a chance.

Since this is exclusively a gaming build, you may want to consider the Phenom II x4 960T Black Edition Zosma for $110 on Newegg. If you OC it, it'll give you great gaming performance and it may unlock to a hexacore--while being $100 cheaper than the i5-2500K.

At your budget, spending that $100 on graphics may be well worth it.
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December 6, 2011 3:30:37 AM

Btw, you can pick up a 5870 on 1saleaday.com for $140. It might not arrive for 5 weeks or so though. It's the best bang for your buck you're going to find.
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December 7, 2011 1:06:11 AM

So many are saying I should go with an AMD processor: if so which one: I want one that is around 3.7GH and can overclock. If not AMD than is the i5 I picked good for gaming, and overclocking?
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December 7, 2011 2:14:50 AM

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So many are saying I should go with an AMD processor: if so which one: I want one that is around 3.7GH and can overclock. If not AMD than is the i5 I picked good for gaming, and overclocking?
We say AMD because it'll save $100 that you can spend on graphics. If you want to overclock and go AMD, get the Phenom II x4 960T Black Edition Zosma. It is on sale until 12/7 for $110 on Newegg.

It's stock speed is not 3.7GHz, but that is irrelevant because all Black Edition CPUs have unlocked multipliers and you can OC it past 3.7GHz easily. Currently, a Phenom II x4 @ 3.7GHz can play pretty much any game at 60fps and you'll end up with a better gaming PC for the same dollar than with an i5-2500K.

Now if you need to play games with this in 4 years and no upgrades...then you might want the i5, but a graphics card will be worthless by then.
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December 7, 2011 2:46:14 AM

dalauder said:
Btw, you can pick up a 5870 on 1saleaday.com for $140. It might not arrive for 5 weeks or so though. It's the best bang for your buck you're going to find.


Why would you pay $140 and wait 5 weeks for a card that's almost two years old? And when a lesser card outperforms it at that for the same price?

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It's stock speed is not 3.7GHz, but that is irrelevant because all Black Edition CPUs have unlocked multipliers and you can OC it past 3.7GHz easily. Currently, a Phenom II x4 @ 3.7GHz can play pretty much any game at 60fps and you'll end up with a better gaming PC for the same dollar than with an i5-2500K.


This I agree with - Phenoms are excellent CPUs for the price. I'm running an x6 1055 @ 3.2GHz right now - it's quite sweet. If you plan to OC, AMDs are definitely a better bang for your buck than the i5-2500K is.
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December 7, 2011 8:14:38 PM

OK ill get the Zosma... btw I decided I am going to overclock, so I need to get a heatsink/fan: any suggestions?
And since I am not going with the i5, what wattage PSU should I get?
oh and one last question: also since im not going with the i5, what motherboard should I get, I am looking for one supporting dual channel memory, and 16GB max.
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December 7, 2011 8:53:15 PM

Mobo...do you know what case you're getting? Will it have front panel USB 3.0? I'm going to assume it won't.

What other parts do you need? Case? HDD?
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December 7, 2011 9:22:16 PM

Mobo 1 $80 + S&H: ASRock 870 Extreme3 R2.0 AM3+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The cheapest great one you can get.

Mobo 2 $110 + S&H: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
All the bells and whistles--SLI, Internal USB 3.0

Mobo 3 $50: GIGABYTE GA-M68MT-S2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You give up a lot with this--USB 3.0, a second full length PCI-e slot, lose some overclocking potential, and probably some other stuff. But I think it can unlock cores...anyhow, this isn't a great board, but it is cheap and reasonably reliable.
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December 7, 2011 10:15:35 PM

techandoutdoors259 said:
OK ill get the Zosma... btw I decided I am going to overclock, so I need to get a heatsink/fan: any suggestions?
And since I am not going with the i5, what wattage PSU should I get?
oh and one last question: also since im not going with the i5, what motherboard should I get, I am looking for one supporting dual channel memory, and 16GB max.


As for PSU you should stick to the 600 - 650 range. Good brands are the usual suspects - Corsair, Antec, Cooler Master, Thermaltake, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, you name it. Just make sure the PSU you pick isn't some cheapo no name (Diablotek, Coolmax, etc) and is certified and rated at least 80+ Bronze. Of course silver, gold, and the rare platinum rated PSUs are always better.

As for fans the Hyper 212 is always the standard around here, but if you wanted to get something different try the Corsair A70, or you could go with the EVGA M020 Supercooler they used in the liquid vs. air cooling review yesterday.

For motherboards this is the AM3 board that I just got, it has everything you'll want and works beautifully (so far, knock on wood... :lol:  ), and I actually got it at a Cyber Monday discount:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 7, 2011 11:44:41 PM

PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's $59.99 after rebate.

As far as the motherboard, is there anything the ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ is missing that the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ has?

We're talking about a matter of $50 and the OP may as well be getting an i5-2500K on sale for $180 (plus a $110 Gigabyte Z68 SLI mobo) if $50 isn't a big deal.

Case: Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99 after rebate--I really doubt you're topping this for $60. It's got front panel USB 3.0, btw.

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600CL9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$29.99 If you haven't bought RAM already, get this stuff.
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December 8, 2011 8:55:09 PM

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As far as the motherboard, is there anything the ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ is missing that the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ has?


We're talking about a matter of $50 and the OP may as well be getting an i5-2500K on sale for $180 (plus a $110 Gigabyte Z68 SLI mobo) if $50 isn't a big deal.


Not that I'm aware of. I got the 990FX because of its' ability to make better use of multiple graphics lanes (which I'm running SLI) - and I also got the board for like $40 off. I'm not sure if the 970 has that feature or not but for the price it's definitely a good bang for your buck value.

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Case: Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133183
$59.99 after rebate--I really doubt you're topping this for $60. It's got front panel USB 3.0, btw.


I think I'd stick with the HAF 912 - if you absolutely need front panel USB 3.0 headers - most Asrock boards come with that 5.25" adapter but Cooler Master also gives you the option to purchase that for $15 if you really need it.
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December 8, 2011 11:02:00 PM

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As far as the motherboard, is there anything the ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ is missing that the GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ has?
We're talking about a matter of $50 and the OP may as well be getting an i5-2500K on sale for $180 (plus a $110 Gigabyte Z68 SLI mobo) if $50 isn't a big deal.


Not that I'm aware of. I got the 990FX because of its' ability to make better use of multiple graphics lanes (which I'm running SLI) - and I also got the board for like $40 off. I'm not sure if the 970 has that feature or not but for the price it's definitely a good bang for your buck value.

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Case: Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811133183
$59.99 after rebate--I really doubt you're topping this for $60. It's got front panel USB 3.0, btw.


I think I'd stick with the HAF 912 - if you absolutely need front panel USB 3.0 headers - most Asrock boards come with that 5.25" adapter but Cooler Master also gives you the option to purchase that for $15 if you really need it.
Yeah, if I was buying for myself, I'd likely step up to the 990X. But the OP's on a budget and focused for gaming benefits only. The ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ does SLI and everything else I could check off on a list, so that's my suggestion.

The Haf 912 for $50 is a great deal. I like the look of that Thermaltake V9 more though, so that would win out for me. OP's choice--if it results in less money for graphics, then get the cheaper one.



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December 8, 2011 11:04:22 PM

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Yeah, if I was buying for myself, I'd likely step up to the 990X. But the OP's on a budget and focused for gaming benefits only. The ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ does SLI and everything else I could check off on a list, so that's my suggestion.

The Haf 912 for $50 is a great deal. I like the look of that Thermaltake V9 more though, so that would win out for me. OP's choice--if it results in less money for graphics, then get the cheaper one.


I was seriously this close to buying Asrock's 990FX board because it was the cheapest one with UEFI that I could get, but wound up going with the Gigabyte one instead since it was on sale and I was really impressed with the one I'm using in my Z68 build. Honestly the 970 isn't a bad chipset at all and for the price that board is a steal.
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December 8, 2011 11:38:57 PM

So a UEFI is useful for larger HDDs or something like that, right?
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December 9, 2011 12:26:05 AM

dalauder said:
So a UEFI is useful for larger HDDs or something like that, right?


No - UEFI BIOS is a graphical interface for your motherboard's BIOS that's designed to make overclocking easier. You're getting that confused with SSD caching where you can enable an SSD as a memory cache for larger 2 and 3TB hard drives.
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December 9, 2011 1:20:03 AM

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No - UEFI BIOS is a graphical interface for your motherboard's BIOS that's designed to make overclocking easier. You're getting that confused with SSD caching where you can enable an SSD as a memory cache for larger 2 and 3TB hard drives.
"3. Supports 3TB bootable HDD - UEFI breaks the limitations of 2TB bootable HDD on traditional BIOS. With UEFI, you can enjoy 3TB bootable HDD size.*" http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extre...

Yeah, you need a UEFI to make 3TB drives bootable (also need a 64-bit Windows Vista or 7 to use 3TB partitions): http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything_you_ne...

Btw, SSD caching can work with any size HDD.

Many overclockers don't mind the bios interface. A graphical interface does make those who aren't comfortable with all-text interfaces like DOS/Unix more likely to overclock. And making overclocking more mainstream is always a good thing. My motherboard has UEFI, but I figured there's no point in using that instead of the bios interface unless I get a bigger HDD.

I guess I was asking if you are using a 3TB HDD--that would make the UEFI actually necessary for functionality.
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December 9, 2011 3:40:46 AM

techandoutdoors259 said:
I might try NCIX but im not sure what it is... is it legit? I am gonna get a CPU cooler later on when i actually overclock, and I am selling my Dell, so I need to keep the HDD in it


Just a note on ncix.

I just purchased a new graphics card from them two days ago and an hour later I purchased a new barbie camper from a vendor in california, I live in indiana so from Richmond BC or California should not be much difference in shipping considering customs for the Canada order.

However tracking on the two items shows my ncix package waiting at my p.o. box for pick up after only two days and the other is only half way here.

So as far as quick shipping I give them a plus. It was the same with previous purchases and I expect I will recieve the same Quality as I have in the past when I pick up my item tomorrow
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December 10, 2011 2:55:48 PM

nothing to do about PC build but im looking for great quality sound, and comfortable around the ear headphones. Mostly for rock music, and rap/pop. also i want noise isolation. I would like the ear pads to be as comfertable as the bose ones.... I was thinking either Bose AE2, SOL Republic, Skullcandy Aviators, or Sony Extra Bass IF not any of these which ones do you reccomend. BTW hopfully under 150
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December 10, 2011 4:31:51 PM

techandoutdoors259 said:
nothing to do about PC build but im looking for great quality sound, and comfortable around the ear headphones. Mostly for rock music, and rap/pop. also i want noise isolation. I would like the ear pads to be as comfertable as the bose ones.... I was thinking either Bose AE2, SOL Republic, Skullcandy Aviators, or Sony Extra Bass IF not any of these which ones do you reccomend. BTW hopfully under 150



I do not like Skull Candy... or Beats By Dre. To me they're overpriced fashion accessories with some electronic equipment in there. Some brands you should heavily consider there would be Sennheiser, V-Moda, Klipsch, JVC, and Pioneer.
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December 10, 2011 4:36:25 PM

ok but do you have any specific models that are good
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December 11, 2011 1:27:30 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I do not like Skull Candy... or Beats By Dre. To me they're overpriced fashion accessories with some electronic equipment in there. Some brands you should heavily consider there would be Sennheiser, V-Moda, Klipsch, JVC, and Pioneer.

What about Bose... and do you have any specific models that are good?
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December 11, 2011 8:49:26 PM

I don't know audio. My speakers are crap and my headphones are worse--just so you know not to look at me for the answer on this one.
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