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Radeon hd5850 dead, need a replacement. Suggestions?

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October 11, 2011 6:18:19 PM

I had a radeon 5850 and it went tits up on me. Now all it does it blast air out at top speed and the pc wont post (I stuck a video card from another pc in it and it booted fine).

But I need to go pick up a new one, any suggestions what would get me as good as quality if not better in a midrange video card budget? I dont have a lot but I want my game pc back.
October 11, 2011 6:20:30 PM

What's the max amount you'd spend?
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October 11, 2011 6:22:38 PM

Id like to stay in 250 range at the most. So between 200-250 is ideal.

I just want to play wow, battlefield 3, crysis 2 and so on max settings and have them play good like I did on my old card. I dont want to downgrade myself.

Oh Im running a 23 inch monitor also.
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October 11, 2011 6:24:57 PM

so we dont waste anyone's time...whats your budget $100-150ish?
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October 11, 2011 6:25:40 PM

Similar performance is a 6870 or 560 non Ti. 6950 1gb and 560 Ti are better, and from there you're looking at maybe a 6950 2gb, gtx 470, or gtx 570.

I'd probably suggest the 6950 1gb or the 560 Ti 1gb.
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October 11, 2011 6:25:47 PM

kilo_17 said:
What's the max amount you'd spend?

sry beat me too it :) 
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October 11, 2011 6:31:37 PM

wolfram23 said:
Similar performance is a 6870 or 560 non Ti. 6950 1gb and 560 Ti are better, and from there you're looking at maybe a 6950 2gb, gtx 470, or gtx 570.

I'd probably suggest the 6950 1gb or the 560 Ti 1gb.

+1
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October 11, 2011 6:31:52 PM

What make/model of power supply are you using? Also, is your 5850 still under warranty?
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October 11, 2011 6:33:04 PM

Wow, I don't know what the deal is with the number 18 being added to the end of every post??
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October 11, 2011 6:35:29 PM

COLGeek said:
What make/model of power supply are you using? Also, is your 5850 still under warranty?



Corsair 650watt psu.

And no its a sapphire, only has a 2 year warranty.
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October 11, 2011 6:36:43 PM

kilo_17 said:
Wow, I don't know what the deal is with the number 18 being added to the end of every post??

A site-wide glitch. It is being worked. Just ignore.
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October 11, 2011 6:37:51 PM

The HD 68xx and 69xx series GPUs will serve you nicely. Cruise on over to NewEgg and pick the most you can afford and have fun!
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October 11, 2011 7:39:51 PM

What's your moniters res? I have the 6850 with a 21.5 inch monitor at 1080p. And max's most stuff and other stuff on medium. Also you could crossfire later depending on your mobo.
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October 11, 2011 7:56:20 PM

Djentleman said:
What's your moniters res? I have the 6850 with a 21.5 inch monitor at 1080p. And max's most stuff and other stuff on medium. Also you could crossfire later depending on your mobo.



I've said this before and been chastised for it but this is a prime example..... after 1600 resolution you need a card with more than 1gig of memory on it. Cross firing 2 of these won't help because you still only have 1gig of memory. They make a 6850 with 2gigs but IMO a 6950 2gig would be the ticket.
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October 11, 2011 8:06:08 PM

swifty_morgan said:
I've said this before and been chastised for it but this is a prime example..... after 1600 resolution you need a card with more than 1gig of memory on it. Cross firing 2 of these won't help because you still only have 1gig of memory. They make a 6850 with 2gigs but IMO a 6950 2gig would be the ticket.

I've got to ask....Why?
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October 11, 2011 8:15:46 PM

true that some processors will hold them back, a video card without enough vram will hold you back more...at higher res and higher settings..... from my experience.
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October 11, 2011 9:38:30 PM

wolfram23 said:
Similar performance is a 6870 or 560 non Ti. 6950 1gb and 560 Ti are better, and from there you're looking at maybe a 6950 2gb, gtx 470, or gtx 570.

I'd probably suggest the 6950 1gb or the 560 Ti 1gb.


After a 45 min drive to microcenter (normally I love newegg but I wanted something sooner) I got a 6950 1gb for 239.
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October 11, 2011 9:45:06 PM

Get an 6950 2GB, (it's like 260-270$) it'll be the best replacement, + it has 2GB of VRAM, very important of you're going to play BF3, that sucker eats too much VRAM :) 
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October 11, 2011 10:09:00 PM

I'm using 2 6850's crossfired, couldn't be happier. They run 150 $ ea I believe.
If you aren't looking to dual up, 1 will work just as well, I've run all the games you mentioned maxed.
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October 11, 2011 10:12:44 PM

I disagree on the VRAM thing. I think it's only starting to have any effect on games if we're talking up to 1920x1200, and honestly the vast majority of "AAA" games are built for consoles so they're definitely not pushing the hardware.

The few games that have come out and really pushed PC hardware to the limits have had no issues running at max settings with my Crossfire 5850 1gb cards. The only time you really start seeing issues beyond maybe a 3fps difference is at 2560x1600 or multimonitor setups. I run Metro 2033 at 1080p, Very High, DX11 with Tesselation, 16xAF, 4xMSAA and it averages over 50fps. Only Depth of Field (DX11) is off, because that drops the performance to around 30-40fps. Maybe that's a memory issue, or maybe a horsepower issue. I don't know, exactly but I do know that the difference in graphical fidelity is negligible (I compared screenshots for my own reference).

I encourage you to research the difference, especially when there's cards like the 6950 with 1 and 2gb versions. From hardocp's review:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/24/amd_radeon_hd...

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Memory Capacity and Resolution


We have found that it comes down to what your native resolution is that you play at. If you play at 1920x1200 or lower, we have no problem recommending the 1GB Radeon HD 6950 over the GeForce GTX 560 Ti. At 1920x1200 1GB frame buffer seems to be adequate. Though the GTX 560 Ti is faster in Civ 5, for the most part the Radeon HD 6950 1GB seems to be superior when it comes to shader driven games. Overclocking the 560 Ti will make up for some of this since it is capable of ~1GHz GPU core speeds, but you are going to have to truly push it to make up for lost ground.

However, if you play at 2560x1600 (or higher with Eyefinity) then the 2GB of RAM on the Radeon HD 6950 becomes important. It will give you more breathing room to allow higher settings. As we have seen, it will even overcome the GTX 560 Ti in a game like Civ 5 when the settings are pushed to high levels. Once again, we have to lean to the Radeon HD 6950 2GB when compared to the GTX 560 Ti.


Basically, GPU horsepower is still by far the limiter compared to VRAM amount. Especially if you have an OCed PC with fast RAM, the system (Win Vista & 7) can use shared system memory with GPUs to help swap out info. The only time 1gb of VRAM can really cause a significant slow down is if you force high levels of AA like 8xSSAA (rathern than 4xMSAA) and it's been proven anyway in reviews (pretty sure Tom's did one earlier this year) that beyond 4x AA the difference in sharpness is negligible while the impact to performance is anything but.
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