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December 8, 2011 11:53:20 PM

I am currently making up a list of parts to order for my first diy build and I was wondering if these would give me the best bag for my buck.
I am not looking to go over $2000 so theres my budget

Build:
Cooler Master HAF 922
ASRock LGA1155/ Intel Z68/ DDR3/ Quad CrossFireX & Quad SLI/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&V&GbE/ ATX Motherboard, Z68 EXTREME4
Intel core i5 2500k
MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC
Cooler Master Silent Pro M1000 Series Modular 1000W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified
Corsair Vengeance Blue 16 GB DDR3 SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
128GB Crucial m4 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1
and i am also looking at the ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

Does this sound like a good gaming build? If not what should I change?
Also, I am looking at parts coming from newegg or amazon.

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December 9, 2011 12:04:48 AM

Yes, most powerful single GPU on the market. New GPU's are coming out from AMD soon though (this year) and nvidia's kepler GPU's will come out next spring. So you could get a very good GTX 570, and then when Kepler comes out get it. Just a thought.You might want to look at ASUS motherboards at that budget. Better overall than ASRock. Look at their ASUS P8Z68-V Pro Gen3 and Deluxe Gen3. Too awesome motherboards. Also, look at Corsair, Antec, and Seasonic PSU's. They are as a whole they are better than Cooler Master PSU's. Will you want awesome cable managment? If you do get a modular PSU. You can remove cables you don't use, and reattach them at a late date with them. Also will you ever SLI? If you will keep a 1000w psu or at least 850w or above. If not 650w will do fine. 16gb's of RAM is a ton, but at there price, and your budget that wouldn't be a problem... You have a nice build. Oh and one last thing. Will you use the SSD as a boot drive and HDD for everything else basically?
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December 9, 2011 12:21:30 AM

Unless you plan on getting another GTX580 and do SLI then you don't need a 1000w psu you could save some money and get a 750w which will have no problem running a 580. Ram prices are indeed cheap right now but the plain fact is you will never use 16gb unless you are using the Pc for work and have some work related apps that require that much ram , 8gb is all you can use for gaming.
However having said that the components that you have selected will make this a powerfull Pc and you will have no trouble playing any game at ultra settings and the highest settings and you are also the one paying for it so you can certianly get the components you want. This is a great gaming build. The thing you have to expect is that when you post your spec's here and ask us our opinion you have to be prepared for the results. I do like everything you selected except the PSU which I would like to see you get an Antec psu , I personaly have always used Antec and feel they are very reliable and effecient.
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December 9, 2011 12:35:29 AM

raptorxrx said:
Yes, most powerful single GPU on the market. New GPU's are coming out from AMD soon though (this year) and nvidia's kepler GPU's will come out next spring. So you could get a very good GTX 570, and then when Kepler comes out get it. Just a thought.You might want to look at ASUS motherboards at that budget. Better overall than ASRock. Look at their ASUS P8Z68-V Pro Gen3 and Deluxe Gen3. Too awesome motherboards. Also, look at Corsair, Antec, and Seasonic PSU's. They are as a whole they are better than Cooler Master PSU's. Will you want awesome cable managment? If you do get a modular PSU. You can remove cables you don't use, and reattach them at a late date with them. Also will you ever SLI? If you will keep a 1000w psu or at least 850w or above. If not 650w will do fine. 16gb's of RAM is a ton, but at there price, and your budget that wouldn't be a problem... You have a nice build. Oh and one last thing. Will you use the SSD as a boot drive and HDD for everything else basically?

Alright, I was going with the ASRock because I had read few reviews that said the ASUS didnt work properly but now that you've told me I think I'll go with the ASUS. In the future yes i will want to SLI but not really anytime soon since I'm new to this whole process. I was having trouble deciding on a PSU so I'll need a little more help with that. What are the prices on the GPUs? I'll probably go with the 8gb RAM, I was just playing it safe with the 16. Yes the SSD will be used for basically just as a boot drive.
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December 9, 2011 12:38:43 AM

So I was wondering if I went with an Antec PSU if I should stick with the 850w and have to go with the high current pro or if I went even lower to the 750w high current
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December 9, 2011 9:29:57 PM

You said you will want to SLI at sometime. In that case get a 950w or above for GTX 580 sli. That would keep you on the safe side. Some people would be fine on 850w, but I would pay the extra to be on the good side of the road.
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December 9, 2011 9:34:36 PM

Change the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus to the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It's a much better unit and fits in the same space and mounts the same as the plus.
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December 10, 2011 2:39:51 AM

Alright so I'm new to the whole diy pc so what should I look for in the psu?
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December 10, 2011 4:01:45 AM

Ok well I've narrowed it down to two, the Antec CP-1000 Power supply - 1 kW or the Antec High Current Gamer HCG-900 Power Supply 900W
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December 10, 2011 7:54:37 PM

both are good. read jonnyguru.com and hardwaresecrets.com reviews for what to look for + if it's good.
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December 12, 2011 11:04:29 PM

I was thinking that if in the future I do sli would it be better to go with the EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 over the MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC?
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December 12, 2011 11:08:57 PM

I believe EVGA is better, however that is my opinion others may say MSI. As long as it is a dual slot card you will be good. The MSI would be just fine for SLI, and has great cooling. Best thing about the AR series (evga) is the life time warranty.
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December 13, 2011 12:27:23 AM

And since they're the same price I think that I will go with the EVGA. Thank You
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December 13, 2011 2:40:26 AM

so many overkill. One awesome system tho. Id get an i7 2600k just to keep up with the rest of the system. on a 2k budget might as well get the best. extra 100 bucks and you have a killer CPU and bragging rights. Bragging rights count for something.

I use an 8 core, do i need it no but all my friends have quads. thats double the cores.
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December 13, 2011 7:11:27 PM

The i5-2500k is already a killer CPU, and not many need the i7. Me, I wouldn't care about the bragging rights and would use the extra money for something less... Something better, like a bigger case, or bigger SSD. I wouldn't go for the i7 unless doing lots of video editing because I know I could spend my money wiser.
Read this/look at this.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
If you feel you need the extra performance for the video editing go i7. If not, than i5 all the way.

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December 13, 2011 7:44:40 PM

Tom says the bragging rights as of now belong to the owner of the i7-3930K system in the November 28, 2011, version of "Best Gaming CPU: $200 And Up". Be aware that it's socket 2011, so a different mobo would be needed.
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December 13, 2011 8:10:18 PM

Yea but the 3930k and 3960x is redonkulous.
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December 13, 2011 8:17:46 PM

It sounds like you've figure out which PSU you want but in my xFire system I went with a PCPC. Sexy wrapped wires, 7 year warranty, well-known brand, quite as all hell. I picked up the 750w model but you might want to do with the 4000w model or something haha. Anyway, very happy with it!
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December 13, 2011 9:33:26 PM

Ya, pcpc is good, I'd still choose what you've already decided on. PCPC does make a good 950w too though.
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December 15, 2011 2:58:10 AM

Alright these are my current choices for parts:
EVGA GeForce GTX 580 SuperClocked with Free "Batman: Arkham City" Game Download coupon included, 1536 MB GDDR5, Dual-DualLink DVI, mini HDMI and PCI-E 2.0 SLI Graphics Card - 015-P3-1582-A1
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SuperClocked-Free-Ba...
Apevia X-Trooper mid tower with large side window, top USB/eSATA/audio ports - Green
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-2500K Processor
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOX80623I52500K-Core-i5-250...
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe - LGA 1155 - Z68 - SATA 6Gbps and USB 3.0 - ATX Intel Z68 DDR3 2200 Motherboards
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z68-Deluxe-6Gbps-Motherboa...
Corsair Vengeance Blu 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600m...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
128GB Crucial m4 2.5-inch SATA 6GB/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 24xDVD±RW Drive DVD-RAM/±R/±RW 24x8x16x(DVD) 48x32x48x(CD) Serial ATA Internal OEM DRW-24B1ST (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-24x8x16x-48x3...
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.amazon.com/PC-Power-Cooling-Performance-comp...
Windows7 64-bit OEM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0T10A/ref=pd_lpo_...
Rosewill RNX-N180PCe Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express Revision 1.1 Up to 300Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128-bit WEP (Hex & ASCII), WPA(TKIP with IEEE 802.1x), WPA2(AES with IEEE 802.1x)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those are all the parts that I have selected so far and I was wondering if they were good enough to be aproved this time?
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December 15, 2011 10:01:39 AM

Two things, and it has my approval. Get the vengeance low profile ram, it makes installing heatsinks MUCH easier. Also put a Nocuta Nh-D14 in to your build.
With those things its got my approval.
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December 15, 2011 10:09:41 PM

Well I was going to go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus since its quite a bit cheaper, and what would get in the way about the vengeance when installing a heatsink?
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December 15, 2011 10:29:27 PM

Oh, yes the Hyper is alot cheaper. If going for that, than look at the newer version of the Hyper, the Evo. It has a nicer fan on it and other improvements. On the Vengeance non-low profile, the heatsinks on the RAM will hit the fan or heatsink itself. On DDR3, you don't need heatsinks, as they don't create much heat.

The Noctua was a bad recommendation on my part, not because it is a bad cooler: it is quite the contrary, but for the price. The Hyper 212 Evo won't cool as well, or be as quiet, but it is still a great cooler especially for the price.

Your build gets my still gets my approval if you go with the Evo.

None of the things I list below are needed. Just what I would do. If you are happy with your build click the buy button, just quickly consider these before buying.
A couple more thoughts. Your case comes out to 80$ with shipping. This is better at 13$ more, and the same after the rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And the Deluxe version of that board is quite similar to the Pro version. I would save your money there, unless you want the "deluxe" name, or know of some feature on it you would use the pro doesn't have.

Your build will be great with all of the parts you linked. You could buy your listed parts no trouble, I was just maximizing value, except for the Noctua recommendation.

Have fun!
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December 15, 2011 10:46:03 PM

Thank you for your help all of your info was very helpful and I will most likely end up getting the Noctua since it's quieter. I was also looking for a large windowed case to go with this build just for the apearance.
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December 16, 2011 1:03:07 AM

So instead of the Apevia X-Trooper I was thinking about the Rosewill Cruiser what would you think?
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December 16, 2011 10:03:12 AM

That would work well too. Choosing a case is the hardest thing to do. Once you decide on your case, than you will be able to order.
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December 16, 2011 12:11:26 PM

The case is your chance to indulge yourself. Get the one you like the most. There are actually practical differences among them, but nothing that will make or break a build (as long as your cooler fits, and there's room for the foot-long graphics cards).
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December 19, 2011 6:29:58 PM

Would I really need to get a sound card since there's one already built into the mb?
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December 19, 2011 6:50:24 PM

underhill said:
Would I really need to get a sound card since there's one already built into the mb?

No, as most people wouldn't notice the difference between onboard and a sound card.
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December 19, 2011 6:52:29 PM

underhill said:
Would I really need to get a sound card since there's one already built into the mb?

That's a harder question than it seems. It depends. If you are running HDMI sound through a theater system, then, no. If you will be running a dedicated speaker system through the analog outputs, then, no. If you will be running digital sound through SPDIF (optical or coaxial) into a receiver, then, yes, if you want true game surround, but the card will have to encode DTS Connect or DDL. If you won't be gaming, then, no. If you will be doing sound studio work, then, yes.
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December 23, 2011 5:37:32 AM

Should I stay with the GTX 580 or go with the Radeon 6970? Which is a better gpu?
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January 2, 2012 4:13:50 AM

So I just got to thinking about instead of getting the single gtx 580 would it be more cost effective to go with two gtx 560 and sli right off the bat?
I'm still in high school so I'm just trying to make a top of the line gaming pc with the best parts but still hopefully keep it somewhat cheap :bounce: 
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January 2, 2012 4:30:13 AM

The 7970 benchmarks are out and it totally rocks the 580 with less heat,power consumption and greater performance. it is like 550 bucks or so
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January 2, 2012 4:54:57 AM

I'm not looking anywhere near spending that much on just the gpu sorry
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January 2, 2012 5:43:54 AM

And since I am looking for a lower price would it really make that much of a difference running the Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC SSD instead of the Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC SSD as a boot drive?
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January 2, 2012 11:58:51 AM

SLI 560's=more performance with more troubles: heat, power and micro stuttering all come into play. I would have to say if your going to pay that much for a gpu, get the 580.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

Tom's did a review on the M4 and the 128gb has about 55% better read speeds. Either way, they both will be much faster than a HDD.
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January 2, 2012 12:20:08 PM

There's no point in buying the GTX 580 when amd's 7970 is just around the corner and according to some benchmarks it is significantly faster than nvidia's baby.


EDIT: Oh, just saw your post above...
EDIT 2: Wait a sec, gtx 580 costs 500$, 7970 will cost 550$. That isn't a huge difference.
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January 2, 2012 12:50:39 PM

Corsair AX1200W - 80PLUS Gold for PSU its a bit on the expensive side but you get what your paying for, and for windows 7 Ultimate Full Product, if your getting win7, first get a GTX580 then in the future you can get another one for SLI or if there are better cards out when you want to upgrade, just use the 580 as a Physx and get SLI on whatever cards are out there in that future
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January 3, 2012 2:27:00 AM

Yeah, I changed the psu to PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W
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February 14, 2012 3:19:21 AM

Best answer selected by underhill.
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