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Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month so
I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I have
to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that the
user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that I
have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.

1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is ok
if left in the charger.

2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70 (allowing
for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be compatible. I tried
a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,

3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA 105mm
1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops insist the lens -
flash combination will be ok with the D70. However, I tried it and the
Centon flash won't fire. This was on auto. The cameras own flash fired ok.
When the CENTON is attached to the camera and switched on the pop up flash
of the Nikon does not pop up. On setting "P" I see that switching on the
Centon changes the shutter speed in the monitor display but won't fire.
It's as if the camera knows the flash is there but won't fire it.

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"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month
so
> I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I have
> to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that
the
> user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that I
> have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.

Sorry to hear of your problems - it takes the gloss off your purchase,
doesn't it.

Until you've got the manual you won't know what other items are missing...
Leads, cleaning cloth etc.

Have you tried the Nikon website for your manual? It may be under a heading
such as "Support". Or go to Google Groups and look in the archives. You
can't be the first to ask this question.
--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm

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Cheers. I know nothing else is missing because the container box has a list
of contents. I will be able to get a manual from Jessops later tomorrow,
but I don't know if it will explain how I can get the ring flash to work.
Nikon has a support number to ring and I'll do that, problem is time... I
have to be in work!


"Malcolm Stewart" <malcolm_stewart@megalith.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
message news:d592p8$ed6$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d591qb$4pl$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
>> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month
> so
>> I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I
>> have
>> to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that
> the
>> user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that
>> I
>> have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.
>
> Sorry to hear of your problems - it takes the gloss off your purchase,
> doesn't it.
>
> Until you've got the manual you won't know what other items are missing...
> Leads, cleaning cloth etc.
>
> Have you tried the Nikon website for your manual? It may be under a
> heading
> such as "Support". Or go to Google Groups and look in the archives. You
> can't be the first to ask this question.
> --
> M Stewart
> Milton Keynes, UK
> http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm
>
>
>
>

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Mat,
The manual is available at Nikon's website. I have downloaded the pdf file
and have it on my desktop for easy reference.

There is no need to leave the battery charging for hours and hours. The
battery life of the camera is excellent. I don't know what kind of shooting
you do but mine goes for weeks without a recharge. I know flash will create
shorter life, but I don't do much of that. I have been very impressed with
the battery life.

I don't know about the rest of your queries.

MrB

"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cheers. I know nothing else is missing because the container box has a
> list of contents. I will be able to get a manual from Jessops later
> tomorrow, but I don't know if it will explain how I can get the ring flash
> to work. Nikon has a support number to ring and I'll do that, problem is
> time... I have to be in work!
>
>
> "Malcolm Stewart" <malcolm_stewart@megalith.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:d592p8$ed6$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> "mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d591qb$4pl$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a
>>> refund
>>> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month
>> so
>>> I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I
>>> have
>>> to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that
>> the
>>> user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that
>>> I
>>> have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.
>>
>> Sorry to hear of your problems - it takes the gloss off your purchase,
>> doesn't it.
>>
>> Until you've got the manual you won't know what other items are
>> missing...
>> Leads, cleaning cloth etc.
>>
>> Have you tried the Nikon website for your manual? It may be under a
>> heading
>> such as "Support". Or go to Google Groups and look in the archives. You
>> can't be the first to ask this question.
>> --
>> M Stewart
>> Milton Keynes, UK
>> http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> writes:
> 1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
> compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is ok
> if left in the charger.

Hours, yes. Months might not be good fo rit.

> 2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
> with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70 (allowing
> for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be compatible. I tried
> a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,

Yes.

> 3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA
> 105mm 1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops
> insist the lens - flash combination will be ok with the D70.

Check the D70 manual, you may have to fool around with the flash
mode through one of the LCD menus.

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Mat,
The D70 is somewhat useful for a few things... but I just got my D70 about a
month ago and purchased the (I think) definitive D70 manual.
http://www.bythom.com/d70guide.htm

It comes to you as a disc, and also includes some curves, some shooting tables
(.xls) etc. It really is a pretty masterful look at the D70.

One thing I will concur with MrB on... the battery lasts a crazy long time.
Bearing in mind that I'm moving up from the Olympus C8080 which had a decent
battery, this D70 battery is an almost unseen piece of battery technology.
Wacky how long it lasts. :)

Tim



"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d591qb$4pl$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month so
I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I have
to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that the
user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that I
have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.

1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is ok
if left in the charger.

2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70 (allowing
for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be compatible. I tried
a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,

3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA 105mm
1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops insist the lens -
flash combination will be ok with the D70. However, I tried it and the
Centon flash won't fire. This was on auto. The cameras own flash fired ok.
When the CENTON is attached to the camera and switched on the pop up flash
of the Nikon does not pop up. On setting "P" I see that switching on the
Centon changes the shutter speed in the monitor display but won't fire.
It's as if the camera knows the flash is there but won't fire it.

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mat wrote:
> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month so
> I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I have
> to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them that the
> user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate queries that I
> have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.
>
> 1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
> compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is ok
> if left in the charger.
>
AFAIK yes you can - when the light stops blinking it is charged. After
using and charging the battery a couple of times, you will get
incredible battery life. Aftermarket batteries are available at about
25% of Nikon price, and seem fine. There is no warning that I have seen
in the Manual that they can be "overcharged" by being left in the charger.

> 2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
> with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70 (allowing
> for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be compatible. I tried
> a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,
>
If they are AF, they will be *fine. If they are AF and not "D" lenses,
then you lose colour matix metering - no big deal. If they are MF, then
you get no ttl metering at all.
* with some exceptions...see manual :-)
> 3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA 105mm
> 1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops insist the lens -
> flash combination will be ok with the D70. However, I tried it and the
> Centon flash won't fire. This was on auto. The cameras own flash fired ok.
> When the CENTON is attached to the camera and switched on the pop up flash
> of the Nikon does not pop up. On setting "P" I see that switching on the
> Centon changes the shutter speed in the monitor display but won't fire.
> It's as if the camera knows the flash is there but won't fire it.
>
The Sigma 105 D (or DG) EX macro will be _great_. The D70 AF may not
thrill you in low light/low contrast situations - and with this macro it
is a lot of AF winding from 31cm to infinity and back. (use the focus
limiter). That should be improved with a firmware update available in a
couple of weeks. If manual focusing with the Sigma 105mm, the focus
indicator light (bottom left of viewfinder) is absolutely accurate from
my experience. (Apparently it is not accurate with a few Nikkor lenses).
The built in flash will work with the Sigma 105 as close as 1:2 or
better(sans-lenshood), closer than that you will get a lens shadow.
Your ring flash will (*should*) work on manual - but no ttl - and that
would drive me nuts. Sigma have a new i-TTL ring flash that should work
much better on the D70. About $500 though IIRC.
Not sure what you do - but with colour balance able to be set in camera,
(or changed later if shooting raw) and a high usable ISO range, a couple
of very cheap halogens on telescopic flexible mounts do the trick for
me, but I like to use shadow rather than eliminate it.

The manual is not an optional accessory for the D70. Despite being 200+
pages, much of it you will need to read to get the most from the camera.

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Frederick wrote:

> Aftermarket batteries are available at about
> 25% of Nikon price, and seem fine.

DON'T PAY A FREAKING PENNY FOR WOLF/RITZ store-brand D70 BATTERIES!!!! I
got one for an extra & it tanked in a month. They replaced it & that one
tanked in another month. GRRRRRR!

--
Paul Furman
http://www.edgehill.net/1
san francisco native plants

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Manual is downloadable from Nikon. It can be hard to find but it is there.
Also you may need another flash. I was going to buy a very nice, used, top
of the line Nikon flash from a friend until I discovered that it wasn't
compatible. I had to buy the newest SB800 from Nikon. I think you can get
some other earlier flashes to work but the compatibility is poor because
some of the functions won't work. If you can't find the manual, email me
and I can find it.

Doug

"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d591qb$4pl$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month
> so I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I
> have to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them
> that the user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate
> queries that I have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.
>
> 1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
> compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is
> ok if left in the charger.
>
> 2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
> with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70 (allowing
> for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be compatible. I
> tried a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,
>
> 3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA 105mm
> 1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops insist the
> lens - flash combination will be ok with the D70. However, I tried it and
> the Centon flash won't fire. This was on auto. The cameras own flash
> fired ok. When the CENTON is attached to the camera and switched on the
> pop up flash of the Nikon does not pop up. On setting "P" I see that
> switching on the Centon changes the shutter speed in the monitor display
> but won't fire. It's as if the camera knows the flash is there but won't
> fire it.
>

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Eventually put my news camera down and went to sleep. Wake up a few hours
later and WOW, here are all these bits of advice. Pretty amazing really.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for their comments and help. I will download a
manual and ring Nikon support as well for their ideas on how to get the
flash working.



"cc0112453" <dougfollett@SPAMLESScomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Manual is downloadable from Nikon. It can be hard to find but it is
> there. Also you may need another flash. I was going to buy a very nice,
> used, top of the line Nikon flash from a friend until I discovered that it
> wasn't compatible. I had to buy the newest SB800 from Nikon. I think you
> can get some other earlier flashes to work but the compatibility is poor
> because some of the functions won't work. If you can't find the manual,
> email me and I can find it.
>
> Doug
>
> "mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d591qb$4pl$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Today I purchased a Nikon D70 from Jessops. I can return it for a refund
>> within 30 days if I don't want it. I'm going away next week for a month
>> so I need to get acqainted with the camera asap. It's now midnight and I
>> have to wait until tomorrow before I can go back to Jessops to tell them
>> that the user manual is missing.... Anyway, here are some immediate
>> queries that I have and I wondered if anybody could provide any answers.
>>
>> 1. Can I leave the battery in the charger for hours on end? I have a
>> compact digital camera and the manual for that says that their battery is
>> ok if left in the charger.
>>
>> 2. I have a number of Nikkor and Sigma lenses which are fully compatible
>> with my Nikon F 55. Jessops insist they will be ok with the D70
>> (allowing for the 1.5 times change). Are they really going to be
>> compatible. I tried a couple of them and don't see any problems yet,
>>
>> 3. One of my interests is macro photography, for which I use a SIGMA
>> 105mm 1:2.8D lens with a CENTON MR40 ring flash. Again, Jessops insist
>> the lens - flash combination will be ok with the D70. However, I tried
>> it and the Centon flash won't fire. This was on auto. The cameras own
>> flash fired ok. When the CENTON is attached to the camera and switched on
>> the pop up flash of the Nikon does not pop up. On setting "P" I see that
>> switching on the Centon changes the shutter speed in the monitor display
>> but won't fire. It's as if the camera knows the flash is there but won't
>> fire it.
>>
>
>

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"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> writes:
> Anyway, thanks to everyone for their comments and help. I will download a
> manual and ring Nikon support as well for their ideas on how to get the
> flash working.

Try checking custom setting #19 to make sure the camera knows the
flash is in manual mode. If it's set to TTL, that could be your problem.
See page 150 of the manual.

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"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> writes:
> Anyway, thanks to everyone for their comments and help. I will download a
> manual and ring Nikon support as well for their ideas on how to get the
> flash working.

By the way, ring flashes make for very flat lighting. Get yourself an
SB-800 to go with the D70. It comes with a little stand so you can
set it off to one side of the macro subject, and then the D70 can use
its own built-in flash ("Commander mode" ) to send timed pulses to the
remote flash to get TTL exposure without any cable going to the remote
flash. Use the diffuser to get some nice soft light, and having it
coming from the side gives a 3-D look. Wireless flash automation is
one area where Nikon is still beating Canon.

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Paul, does the SB-600 do any of that stuff.... ? The SB-800 is just so frappin'
expensive.

Tim




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"mat" <mat12033@hotmail.com> writes:
> Anyway, thanks to everyone for their comments and help. I will download a
> manual and ring Nikon support as well for their ideas on how to get the
> flash working.

By the way, ring flashes make for very flat lighting. Get yourself an
SB-800 to go with the D70. It comes with a little stand so you can
set it off to one side of the macro subject, and then the D70 can use
its own built-in flash ("Commander mode" ) to send timed pulses to the
remote flash to get TTL exposure without any cable going to the remote
flash. Use the diffuser to get some nice soft light, and having it
coming from the side gives a 3-D look. Wireless flash automation is
one area where Nikon is still beating Canon.

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"Destin_FL" <mounttimmy@yahoo.com> writes:
> Paul, does the SB-600 do any of that stuff.... ? The SB-800 is just
> so frappin' expensive.

The SB800 has a few features that the 600 doesn't, but the 600 does
most of it. The way I see it though, they're both frappin' expensive,
so you might as well buy the 800 and get it over with, instead of
buying the 600 and wishing you got the 800. I did that already with
the N8008, starting with an SB-22 and later coughing up for an SB-24.
The price difference between the 600 and 800 is not that large, and
there are some used 800's around.

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At Amazon at least, the difference in price is a full $130.00 !!
That's not a whole big leap from saying its twice as much... yes, no?
Does it do another $130 worth of cool stuff? I'm asking sincerely....

T




"Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in message
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"Destin_FL" <mounttimmy@yahoo.com> writes:
> Paul, does the SB-600 do any of that stuff.... ? The SB-800 is just
> so frappin' expensive.

The SB800 has a few features that the 600 doesn't, but the 600 does
most of it. The way I see it though, they're both frappin' expensive,
so you might as well buy the 800 and get it over with, instead of
buying the 600 and wishing you got the 800. I did that already with
the N8008, starting with an SB-22 and later coughing up for an SB-24.
The price difference between the 600 and 800 is not that large, and
there are some used 800's around.

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"Destin_FL" <mounttimmy@yahoo.com> writes:
> At Amazon at least, the difference in price is a full $130.00 !!
> That's not a whole big leap from saying its twice as much... yes, no?
> Does it do another $130 worth of cool stuff? I'm asking sincerely....

At B&H, the SB600 is about $200 and the SB800 a little over $300.
More to the point, a D70S/18-70/SB600 outfit is about $1400 and a
D70S/18-70/SB800 outfit is a little over $1500. There's not that much
difference. I just figure that the SB800 besides having more
features, is also more powerful, and that's always a good thing. If
you're a professional, it probably pays for itself quickly in
additional saleable shots, so go for it. If you're an amateur, "worth
it" mainly is a question of whether there's something more satisfying
you can do with the same money, which is completely subjective. I
would say if you've made the leap into a D70 system to begin with, you
might as well go completely in and get the SB800. The best argument I
see for the SB600 is that for $400 you can get two of them, giving you
even more flexibility for not that much more than the cost of a single
SB800.

Basically I'm evading your question of whether the SB800's extra
features are important because truthfully, I didn't study the
differences that closely. It just seems like a standard case of
choosing between the one that's adequate and the one you really want,
and the usual answer is that if you can afford it, get the one you
really want.

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In article <SO9ee.2378$cf5.1102@lakeread07>, mounttimmy@yahoo.com says...
> At Amazon at least, the difference in price is a full $130.00 !!
> That's not a whole big leap from saying its twice as much... yes, no?
> Does it do another $130 worth of cool stuff? I'm asking sincerely....

Besides the extra power, there are additional automation modes
(auto aperture), strobe effects, and mixed-mode support for
multiple flash photography.

If you start doing serious flash work, the extra power is enough
reason to go with the SB-800. For bounce flash, or shooting
into reflectors or through diffusers (especially *big*
diffusers, big enough to really have a softening effect on
the light), the extra power will make a big difference in
the effective range of the flash.

Diane

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Incredibly great answers... thanks to you both!!!

Tim








"Diane Wilson" <diane@firelily.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ce30787aef592ea989ae5@news-server...
In article <SO9ee.2378$cf5.1102@lakeread07>, mounttimmy@yahoo.com says...
> At Amazon at least, the difference in price is a full $130.00 !!
> That's not a whole big leap from saying its twice as much... yes, no?
> Does it do another $130 worth of cool stuff? I'm asking sincerely....

Besides the extra power, there are additional automation modes
(auto aperture), strobe effects, and mixed-mode support for
multiple flash photography.

If you start doing serious flash work, the extra power is enough
reason to go with the SB-800. For bounce flash, or shooting
into reflectors or through diffusers (especially *big*
diffusers, big enough to really have a softening effect on
the light), the extra power will make a big difference in
the effective range of the flash.

Diane

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