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Motherboard/Power supply- NEW BUILD (gaming)

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December 11, 2011 6:31:13 PM

Making my first gaming computer, here is what i have so far:

CPU: Intel i5 2500k, OR should i go with AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition Deneb 3.6GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desk?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon 6870 (or would the XFX be considerably better?)
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&biw=1280&b...

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw X series 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD: Western Digital 500 GB 7200
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=500GB+HD...

SSD: crucial M4 64GB SATA III MLC Internal SSD (for OS and maybe a few other programs)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD tray: Asus 24x dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Not sure yet still searching around (mid tower though, that should be enough room right??) suggestions welcome :) 

MOBO: --Asus p8Z68 V pro
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=asus+p8z68-v+p...
--Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z-LGA-1155-Z68-Republic of Gaming series- mATX Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2200
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&cp=10&gs_i...
--ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Gaming Series GS600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC High Performance (((will this support crossfire-ing))??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cant decide on the motherboard...any ideas on that? I want it to be able to support 2 GPU's for the future.

Overclocking, possibly in the future.
Uses: Gaming, web surfing, microsoft office/school, respectively.
I want to be able to run Diablo III, Starcraft II, and Sims 3 at max settings.

Thanks :) 
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December 11, 2011 6:47:12 PM

Stick with the 2500k and the Asus P8Z68 V pro ....AMD system can't compete in this price segment....Asrock will save ya money but at the loss of a year's worth of warranty coverage.

The 902 V3 is at a great price right now at $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If ya thinking twin GFX, I'd go with an XFX Core Edition 850 ($90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 64 GB M4 is Tier 9 SSD ..... and a bit small.....$75 extra will get ya a 120 GB Tier 3 model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For twin GFX, < $200 each I'd go with the two 6870's .... at > $200 each, the 900 Mhz 560 Ti's give most performance per dollar. Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:


$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 260.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.54 - $ 0.69
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50


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December 11, 2011 6:54:17 PM

You should stick with the Sandy Bridge , The card manufacturers all will use the same gpu and they can only tweak a few things so they will all be in the same ares for performance , one may come overclocked a little higher than the other from the factory but you would have to go up or down levels to see noticeable differences.
I would go with the Asrock board , more slots , same features less money.
Since you are planning on Crossfire in the future then you should get a psu to support that.

High Current Pro HCP-850 850W TX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$169.99 and a $10 rebate makes it $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't know what your budget amount might be but you can certianly look around and try to catch sales or get a different psu , some that are good are Seasonic , Corsair along with Antec.
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December 11, 2011 7:07:16 PM

Thanks for the quick feedback :) 

Is there a real diffference between the- Sapphire AMD radeon 6870, and the XFX amd radeon 6870?
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December 11, 2011 7:08:07 PM

The 2500K will trounce the Phenom all day long, but the Phenom is still a good chip, and cost's a little less if you need to make room in the budget.

Cannot comment on the GPU as I don't know much about AMD boards. However, I would go with an AMD unless you are using CUDA, Physx, or using a high end card.

Good ram

Just stick with the SSD for now, and get a larger one. HDDs are ridiculously overpriced right now, and if you can hold out on storing any bulk information then you should be able to snag a 2+TB drive next summer/fall for under $100. Besides SSD's are at a decent price right now, and really make the system feel very fast and fluid.

CD, just get the cheapest DVD burner you can find, unless you want blueray support, in which case you should get the cheapest blue ray player/DVD burner you can find.

Motherboards are tricky things. I purchased the extreme3 gen3, and was happy with it until I started having RAM issues (turned out to be both bad ram, and mobo issues), but I am sure it is a fluke. However, I feel that I should have stuck with the p67 chipset on an MSI military class board as I am now not going to be using the SSD cashing, or the Virtue/igp video rendering options (found there was a huge performance hit and ram usage with Virtue... but perhaps the performance hit was due to the bad mobo? I can eat the ram as I have 16GB). Anywho, the only other reason to get the z68 is for future Ivy bridge support, but if you buy an i5K, then I dobut you will want to buy the next gen i5K unless something goes terribly wrong... in which case you would likely buy a who new mobo anyways as the CPU will survive almost any catastrophe. Besides, as the writers on Toms and other sites have already hinted, the z68/IB combo may not be quite as good as we have been lead to believe. However, if you have your heart set on a z68 board then I am sure any of the above would do just fine... just know that you are not getting any extra speed over a p67 board, just extra features.

For the PSU I really like my OCZ ZS I got. Great rebate made it $75 for a good quality 750W power supply. Only complaint is that it is not modular, but as I have never had one, so I dont miss it that badly.

For the case I suggest looking at thermaltake for good budget cases, Cooler Master for their HAF and upper end jobs, and LanLi, Corsair and other good name brands for ones that have a more interesting look/feel to them.
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December 11, 2011 8:41:48 PM

OK, so heres what i got after the suggestions.

CPU: Intel i5 2500k


GPU: Sapphire AMD Radeon 6870 (or would the XFX be considerably better?)
http://www.google.com/products/cat [...] CD8Q8wIwAg


RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD: Will buy at a later period due to cost of SSD, but i believe it's worth the delay.


SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CD tray: Asus 24x dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204


Case:


PSU: XFX Core Edition PRO850W (P1-850S-NLB9) 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hows that setup sound? And is the motherboard good quality and not low end? :)  thanks for all the help so far!! im itching to start ordering it =P
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