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I am wanting to build a gaming computer, but I don't know what other parts to include.

 

Approximate Purchase Date: within a week or so
Budget Range: $1000, although I would really prefer if you don't use all $1000 in suggesting components, including monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Runescape and Emulators; Call of Duty, Halo.
Parts Not Required:Win7.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, ebay
Country: US
Parts Preferences: i5 Processor, HD Monitor.
Overclocking: Probably.
SLI or Crossfire: I don't know what these are.
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-14-2011 at 03:14:33 AM
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So you do need a monitor? You don't need to make 3 threads... So just stick with this one now.

FYI: SLI/XFire is using two graphics cards linked together. It usually has high performance at a good price, but has its issues. Microstutter (a FPS thing), higher power consumption and more noise (two fans vs one) are some of them. It is for some people but not all. Personally, I'm not going to try SLI for a long time.

Do you have a HDD (sata) and DVD burner (sata)? If so than you can save some money. Oh and do you live near a Microcenter?

For 100$ I don't know if I can do an i5 with a monitor keyboard and mouse. Even if not we will still be able to help you decide on a good gaming computer.

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For 100$ I don't know if I can do an i5 with a monitor keyboard and mouse.



oh, ye of little faith.

a decent i5-2500K system is around $700-750.
Add a $150 monitor, a 2.1 sound system, and a decent keyboard and mouse, and you're in at $900-950

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Message edited by ScrewySqrl on 12-13-2011 at 12:48:40 AM
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For 100$ I don't know if I can do an i5 with a monitor keyboard and mouse.



oh, ye of little faith.

a decent i5-2500K system is around $700-750.
Add a $150 monitor, a 2.1 sound system, and a decent keyboard and mouse, and you're in at $900-950


I guess, but you are probably better at it than I, I'm still new. You didn't see my spelling error did you? ;)

Always learning! Now off to newegg!

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Reply to raptorxrx

No one was replying for a long time in the other thread, so I made this one.

Reply to azeem40

here's what I found after a quick search. you might do better:

Whole system combo:
i5-2500K, 8 GB RAM, Antec 650W PSU, Gigabyte Z68 motherboard, seagate 1 TB HDD: $638.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.755265

Power Color HD 6870: $159.99 w/ $10 rebate:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814131378

Samsung DVD burner (SATA I): $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151252

Haanspree 23" 1920x1080 monitor: $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824262017

Rosewill USB keyboard: $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823201028

HEC 800dpi Mouse: $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826281002

Logitec 2.3W 2.0 speaker set: $12.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6836121013

total: $985.93

Shipping: $12.22

total w/ shipping: $998.15 before $20 rebate


Message edited by ScrewySqrl on 12-13-2011 at 01:07:38 AM
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raptorxrx wrote :

So you do need a monitor? You don't need to make 3 threads... So just stick with this one now.

 

FYI: SLI/XFire is using two graphics cards linked together. It usually has high performance at a good price, but has its issues. Microstutter (a FPS thing), higher power consumption and more noise (two fans vs one) are some of them. It is for some people but not all. Personally, I'm not going to try SLI for a long time.

 

Do you have a HDD (sata) and DVD burner (sata)? If so than you can save some money. Oh and do you live near a Microcenter?

 

For 100$ I don't know if I can do an i5 with a monitor keyboard and mouse. Even if not we will still be able to help you decide on a good gaming computer.


Yes, I do need a monitor. The two computers I have are laptops, so yeah.

 

I have no HDDs and Idk if I live near a microcenter.

 

@ Above post: Thanks! So a Case doesn't need any ventilation holes?


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 01:12:55 AM
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you put fans on them :)

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I don't see a gpu in that combo.


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 02:10:08 AM
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It's the i5-2500k in it, look again. :) It's there.

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Sorry, I meant GPU. Fixed that in previous post.

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The other components he linked has a power color 6870=GPU

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The 6870 GPU is the best one I can get and stay within my budget?

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Unless you go AMD. The 6870 plays games well. What games do you play?

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ATM, I play Runescape and Pokemon games on the No$GBA Emulator. I want to get into some of the third-person shooter and racing games though.


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 03:01:35 AM
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For those games a 6870 would rock. First person shooters? They are more intensive but would do fine. It would be fine for racing too!

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The thing is, I have never owned a game system, so I've never known what games were out and never got to experience any recent shooting or racing games out, so I used Emulator No$GBA to play Pokemon.

Reply to azeem40

6870 is about equal to a GTX 560. the 6870 is $160, the 560 is $200...easy choice

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HTPC: Phenom I 9650 2.3Ghz, 4 GB DDR2-800, 120gb hdd, HD4850 512MB, Ultra 500W
Reply to ScrewySqrl

Hey guys, so I'm looking to build the exact same thing with the exact same budge ( I have a lap top, so I need a monitor, mouse, etc. also). I'm wondering if the build suggested with the i5 2500 would viably play upcoming games like SW:TOR and Diablo 3 on high settings? I have never built a machine before, so this is new to me, but this thread looked like a good start! Also, would this leave room for improvement?...since I should be able to put in another $100 every month into the machine.

Reply to duffman102

Grab the i5 2500k. It will be plenty for all of the games out today. You just need a good GPU to play those games.. Hopefully the radeon 7000 series will hit the market soon

Reply to elayman

i5 2500k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072 220

MSI Z68A-G43 (G3) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130621 100$

for now get 4gb single stick
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231313 22$

any dvd burner 17$

nzxt gamma case 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146061

gtx 560ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127578 265$

sqrl specified items
Haanspree 23" 1920x1080 monitor: $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824262017

Rosewill USB keyboard: $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823201028

HEC 800dpi Mouse: $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826281002

samsung f3 1tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185 150$

ocz 600w psu,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341022 70$

total i think it will be arround 1030$



Reply to manu 11

Is the above build suggested for me, the other guy, or both of us?

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azeem40 wrote :

Is the above build suggested for me, the other guy, or both of us?




for you mate :D

Reply to manu 11

Out of the builds suggested so far, which one do you think is the best overall?

 

EDIT: One question: What is the reason someone would get a Dual Monitor Display?
EDIT2: This is probably a stupid question, but Gaming PCs can surf the internet, right? (please don't laugh :P)

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Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 08:16:16 AM
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azeem40 wrote :

Out of the builds suggested so far, which one do you think is the best overall?

EDIT: One question: What is the reason someone would get a Dual Monitor Display?
EDIT2: This is probably a stupid question, but Gaming PCs can surf the internet, right? (please don't laugh :P)



They are both nice builds. You can see they save money in certain areas (keyboard/mouse, hard drive, motherboard, ram and case) these are generally safe areas to skimp on. You can see both builds put the money in the gpu, power supply and cpu, these are the most important components for gaming. I believe Manu 11's build is slightly stronger but will be a bit more expensive.

A dual monitor can provide a panoramic view or one screen can show windows while the other is in game but this setup can require more video card power.

A gaming computer can run the internet!


Message edited by sicktir3d on 12-13-2011 at 08:52:27 AM
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So which one is better?

 

EDIT: Is there a better CPU Cooler available, if any?
EDIT2: What is the difference between Core Clock, Memory Clock, and Shader Clock?


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 08:54:24 AM
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I edited my post to say manu 11's is slightly better hehe. The case fans should provide enough cooling for your initial build. The cpu's also come with a fan and thermal paste for free and there's a fan on the graphics card as well. If you begin to overclock your system you may then need to step up your cooling.

EDIT2: What is the difference between Core Clock, Memory Clock, and Shader Clock?

Someone else may be able to explain this better. I generally google the cards performance tests and compare them that way. For these builds you could google "gtx 560 ti vs HD 6870" and you will get some good testing with visual graphs for comparison.


Message edited by sicktir3d on 12-13-2011 at 09:00:19 AM
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I actually would like to overclock my system if the system can handle it.

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Either system can handle an overclock for sure. You would just need to get an aftermarket fan and heatsink for your cpu and crank up the fan on the graphics card using some overclocking software (provided by the company that makes your card.) Water cooling is another option but is way more expensive, someone else can explain it better or there are many resources online explaining the details.

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I don't think I'll need water cooling. What would I need to change in the builds suggested to make overclocking possible?

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azeem40 wrote :

I don't think I'll need water cooling. What would I need to change in the builds suggested to make overclocking possible?



You would just need to add a fan like this to your build if you want to OC your cpu. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065 You can OC the video card without adding anything, you would just need to turn up the fan speed with the software.

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Message edited by sicktir3d on 12-13-2011 at 09:18:27 AM
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QUESTION WERE DO YOU LIVE as in which country. We can advise you better knowing this. I live in Western Australia there for getting a different price to some people from the US or UK those guys have it easy tho its amazon, new egg, tiger direct... mmm... Good prices I can see you but I they dont sell to tin shack desert dewlers like me (LoL)... But yes If any one from WA is looking computer parts try netplus.

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I live in the USA, specifically Frisco, Texas.

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sicktir3d wrote :

You would just need to add a fan like this to your build if you want to OC your cpu. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065 You can OC the video card without adding anything, you would just need to turn up the fan speed with the software.


Any reason you're not recommending the new 212 Evo? It seems to be slightly better in that the baseplate has less gaps. For a difference of a couple of $, you might as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 0212%20evo

Reply to elayman

So many complicated choices to make when choosing out parts. This is exactly why I posted this topic, because I would have had no clue on how to know if certain parts work with each other.

 

Anyway, keep the suggestions coming. :)

 

EDIT: For the games I will be playing, what is a good size for the HDD? Would I really need 1TB? Also, any ATX Case will work right?

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Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 09:38:35 AM
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azeem40 wrote :

So many complicated choices to make when choosing out parts. This is exactly why I posted this topic, because I would have had no clue on how to know if certain parts work with each other.

 

Anyway, keep the suggestions coming. :)

 

EDIT: For the games I will be playing, what is a good size for the HDD? Would I really need 1TB? Also, any ATX Case will work right?


I am going to sleep as it is 2:46 AM here, but please keep the suggestions coming and answer the questions I asked in the above quote and the other questions I asked in this thread. Thanks in advance and sorry for all these questions.

 


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 09:49:36 AM
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Wow, I'm the other guy who asked about pretty much the same thing, and I live in Houston, Tx lol. But, I'll probably be building the exact same thing as you man. Hope these questions are answered soon.

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the 1 TB drive is kind of 'standard' now. large games like WoW and other MMORPGs run 20-40 GB in size

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Reply to ScrewySqrl

I don't play WoW. The only MMORPG I play is Runescape and that is a browser-based game that runs on Java.

Reply to azeem40

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119233
^ Is that case a good case to use?

AND

azeem40 wrote :

I don't play WoW. The only MMORPG I play is Runescape and that is a browser-based game that runs on Java.



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You could get a 500gb hdd, no trouble with that, 1tb is just the standard now. Also, if you play browser/java games, will you play other games when/if you make a new computer? If not just about any GPU would work, and you wouldn't have really any need to OC.

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I don't know many games, but I do want to start getting into the popular games such as Call of Duty, Half-Life, Counter-Strike, etc.
EDIT: Could you also suggest a case that is light-weight yet good enough to cool my PC?


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-13-2011 at 10:10:34 PM
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HAF 922, antec 300, CM storm scout (it has a handle, and a sturdy one at that), HAF 912

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I'm very happy with my Rosewill R102 case. a bit old school, but it keeps my i5-2400 at a comfy 40-45C when playing games, I have an 80mm side fan, and 2x 120mm (front/back)in my system, very low noise, great temps.

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HTPC: Phenom I 9650 2.3Ghz, 4 GB DDR2-800, 120gb hdd, HD4850 512MB, Ultra 500W
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Hey, since you are new to the whole gaming thing, you should check out the Battlefield Series, as it's amazing in my opinion. I recently got BF3, and it really blows COD out of the water. Just a game thought for you.

As for the EVO/Hyper 212 comment, I'm pretty sure it's because they were trying to keep below 1k, so that 4 bucks makes a difference. I would pay for the EVO as it's only slightly more expensive.

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Oh and yes the HAF 912 case you linked is good, I would consider using it if I were buying a computer right now.

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Reply to raptorxrx

Thanks for the case and game suggestions.

However, someone has yet to tell me which build is the best so far.

Reply to azeem40

There is one thing I should have mentioned, yet I didn't realize it until just now. I would like a case that is light-weight. I want to move out within the year 2012 (late 2012) and I don't want to have something too heavy to carry.

 

EDIT: Edited first post with another preferred website.


Message edited by azeem40 on 12-14-2011 at 03:14:55 AM
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Gaming computers way more. That is a fact. But if you want something lighter, go with the mid tower cases. They way less. I would lean to the HAF 912 if I were you. It isn't the lightest, but for a solid cheap case, it's around the best you'll get. Or you could pay more and get the Coolermaster Storm Scout and have a carrying handle that is really good. That is the case I use. Honestly though, if you won't move it all the time, and only occasionally, I wouldn't make that your biggest concern.


I would go with manu's build as it has more graphics power, but around the same on everything else. I would pay a little more for this keyboard set.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823126197

Up to you.

Btw, the biggest advantage the other build has is the nicer mobo. (the first build linked) I would still go with the second build for the graphics power.

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I guess the second build will be the best for what I do, but I am very indecisive when it comes to computers as Idk anything on what parts work well with each other. I don't think I'll need 1TB of space, though, so I will probably get a 250/500GB HDD.


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