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October 17, 2011 2:11:16 AM

Been doing RESEARCH for hours, so for 230-250 bucks, what should I get? Will i finally achieve 50 fps on crysis? Got a quad-core 3.6 (oced) phenom with 4gig ripjaws and a 4890 XFX Vid card, will want it to last about 2 years, and play guild wars 2 and other HD games at no less than 60 fps.

Thanks!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
^^^^^^^^^ 6950

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October 17, 2011 2:21:54 AM

It seems that the 6950 dominates the 560 ti in EVERY ASPECT! could someone tell me if they can find a 560ti for about 200-225? well....i think its worth paying the extra 25 bucks right? Thanks agains for your opinions guys!
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October 17, 2011 2:33:54 AM

Btw what processor should i upgrade to in the near future? on WEI raings: its 7.4 proc, 7.4 ram and 7.6 on both gfx with my 4890

The proc was a 3.0 triple core but i unlocked it to Phenom II X4 B40 Proc 3.60

ah and MOBO is MSI 870 G-45
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October 17, 2011 2:42:52 AM

on the gpu aspect it's dependent to the game there really neck to neck. heres a 560 ti at $219 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

processor wise it wouldn't be a bad idea to plan that donw the road specially with intel's ivy bridge which also means cheaper prices for the i5 and i7 k series, but no need to rush tho your proc should handle it well.
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October 17, 2011 2:46:57 AM

You buy the card and send a copy off your receipt and the original UPC code from the box with the rebate form (instructions on the form) within the specified time period, and they send you either a check or a cash card in a couple off months!
I take Newegg reviews with a grain off salt!
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October 17, 2011 2:53:18 AM

zakattak80 said:
on the gpu aspect it's dependent to the game there really neck to neck. heres a 560 ti at $219 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

processor wise it wouldn't be a bad idea to plan that donw the road specially with intel's ivy bridge which also means cheaper prices for the i5 and i7 k series, but no need to rush tho your proc should handle it well.


link is broken, but thanks.
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October 17, 2011 3:00:01 AM

This is a tough segment cause there are many different "correct" answers. The thing about the 560 is that the "reference card is the same price as the factory OC'd cards ..... do ya look at the scores for the 560 TI, the 560 Ti 900MHz or the 1000+ Mhz that everyone it OC's to ? If ya gonna stay at the reference card, I'd say the 6950.....if one card is all ya ever gonna get.

But if ya gonna buy a factory OC'd card or are gonna OC the card yaself, the 560 Ti, especially the factory OC'd ones with the bigger coolers, are a hell of a deal.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 210.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.44 - $ 0.56
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52

As we can see above, as a single card, the 6950 has a 5.2% lead over the 560 Ti.....but look what happens when paired in SLI/CF. The 560 scales so much better and winds up not only evening up but surpassing the 6950 by 5.5%

So, for a single reference card, the 6950 is the better deal.....if a 2nd card is on the table now or in the future, the 560 Ti is the easy choice.

Now lets look at the factory OC'd versions ....

$ 260.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.54 - $ 0.69
$ 205.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.41 - $ 0.48
$ 360.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.68 - $ 0.87

Due to the 560's higher OC headroom, we see that the factory OC'd 560 Ti narrowly beats the factory OC'd as a single card by 2.3%. That lead jumps to 13.6% when ya pair them up in SLI/CF ..... when ya look at the pricing, the clear "value" winner is the 560 Ti .when factory overclocked ...... both as a single card or dual card setup. The fact that it also beats the 6970 when paired makes the victory a slam dunk ya might think ...... nope, this is at 1920 1200..... at 2560 x 1600, the 6970 is the better choice.

At their max stable OC, the 560 still has way more room than the 6960 .... 20 - 25% OC's over the factory reference speed are routine, whereas 10 - 15% is the norm on the 6950. So if your the type who gets out the utilities and cranks it up, then the 560 Ti factory OC version is the better choice.....again, at 1920 x 1200.

$ 205 Gigabyte http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$ 240 EVGA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$ 230 Asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 6950s and 560s come with a free game.... Dirt2 with the 6950 and Batman w/ the 560's..... I guess ya have to weigh what game ya like better into the equation. :) 
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October 17, 2011 3:05:26 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
This is a tough segment cause there are many different "correct" answers. The thing about the 560 is that the "reference card is the same price as the factory OC'd cards ..... do ya look at the scores for the 560 TI, the 560 Ti 900MHz or the 1000+ Mhz that everyone it OC's to ? If ya gonna stay at the reference card, I'd say the 6950.....if one card is all ya ever gonna get.

But if ya gonna buy a factory OC'd card or are gonna OC the card yaself, the 560 Ti, especially the factory OC'd ones with the bigger coolers, are a hell of a deal.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 210.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.44 - $ 0.56
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52

As we can see above, as a single card, the 6950 has a 5.2% lead over the 560 Ti.....but look what happens when paired in SLI/CF. The 560 scales so much better and winds up not only evening up but surpassing the 6950 by 5.5%

So, for a single reference card, the 6950 is the better deal.....if a 2nd card is on the table now or in the future, the 560 Ti is the easy choice.

Now lets look at the factory OC'd versions ....

$ 260.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.54 - $ 0.69
$ 205.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.41 - $ 0.48
$ 360.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.68 - $ 0.87

Due to the 560's higher OC headroom, we see that the factory OC'd 560 Ti narrowly beats the factory OC'd as a single card by 2.3%. That lead jumps to 13.6% when ya pair them up in SLI/CF ..... when ya look at the pricing, the clear "value" winner is the 560 Ti .when factory overclocked ...... both as a single card or dual card setup. The fact that it also beats the 6970 when paired makes the victory a slam dunk ya might think ...... nope, this is at 1920 1200..... at 2560 x 1600, the 6970 is the better choice.

At their max stable OC, the 560 still has way more room than the 6960 .... 20 - 25% OC's over the factory reference speed are routine, whereas 10 - 15% is the norm on the 6950. So if your the type who gets out the utilities and cranks it up, then the 560 Ti factory OC version is the better choice.....again, at 1920 x 1200.

$ 205 Gigabyte http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$ 240 EVGA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$ 230 Asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 6950s and 560s come with a free game.... Dirt2 with the 6950 and Batman w/ the 560's..... I guess ya have to weigh what game ya like better into the equation. :) 


Thanks for the post! so basically, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 244$ OC VS. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Help me choose :3? i play with my 24" at 1900x1200.

I always OC a little bit with ther overdrive thingy ^_^
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October 17, 2011 3:07:56 AM

Btw, the MiR thing is 100% sure, right?

the prices with them included are:

560-225-------245
gigabyte-220---------from 240
xfx-220----------from 250!
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October 17, 2011 3:16:58 AM

Mid-highgfx said:
Btw, the MiR thing is 100% sure, right?

the prices with them included are:

560-225-------245
gigabyte-220---------from 240
xfx-220----------from 250!

I have never had an issue with the MIR since I have always followed the instructions and the timeframe!
(I truly consider it discount)
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October 17, 2011 3:23:33 AM

oh and YES i plan on only using 1 card (: dont need another one imo
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October 17, 2011 3:30:01 AM

Btw, anyone know of any restrictions with the MIR because of living in Puerto Rico?
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October 17, 2011 3:58:10 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
but look what happens when paired in SLI/CF. The 560 scales so much better and winds up not only evening up but surpassing the 6950 by 5.5%

So, for a single reference card, the 6950 is the better deal.....if a 2nd card is on the table now or in the future, the 560 Ti is the easy choice.

AMD HD 6K series scales better than nVidia GTX 5K series, look at Tom's review, they compare 2-way/3-way HD 6950s CF vs 2-way / 3way GTX 570, and they recommended the HD 6950s over the GTX 570s
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October 17, 2011 4:40:07 AM

6950 is more powerfull al the way around and the 560 is a better card all the way around, cooler better OC (still not as powerfull when they are both OC) but quieter and cooler
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October 17, 2011 12:31:41 PM

Mid-highgfx said:
Btw, anyone know of any restrictions with the MIR because of living in Puerto Rico?

From XFX's rebate form "This offer cannot be combined with any other XFX offer, unless specified in writing by XFX. This offer
is available to all customers with mailing addresses in the United States, Puerto Rico and Canada."
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