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March 18, 2012 11:11:58 PM

hi i have a question about what i need to get next. i play games and i come from console . i just switched to pc games not too long ago but i bought my brothers computer and its a bit dated. specs are phenom x4 9950 oc to 2.9 ghz, 2.5 g ddr2 ram, just bought an hd 6850 graphics card.

so my question is what should i buy next? my processor is still good and i dont think ill need to upgrade that for a bit. im thinking that my ram is really holding me back. i get ok framerate in bf3. around 30 - 40 medium settings on my current hd 4850 graphics card(as stated i just ordered a sapphire hd 6850.
i also get hung up alot just using the computer. thats my reasoning for getting more ram.

Any thoughts?

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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:14:13 PM

Overclock more. I would also get an ssd.
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March 18, 2012 11:16:32 PM

i cant get up to 3 ghz without being unstable. the 9950 is not meant to go that high. ssd wont happen becuase i cant reinstall windows on it and im on a really tight budget.
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March 18, 2012 11:17:05 PM

i dont care about load times and i know that an ssd helps with load times
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March 18, 2012 11:18:30 PM

Does your motherboard support DDR3?
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March 18, 2012 11:20:05 PM

no. the difference between ddr2 and 3 is not that signigicant from what ive seen.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:22:34 PM

What do you mean by "hung" up? BTW SSD's come with software that allows you to copy windows onto it without buying another copy.
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a b U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:26:10 PM

schecterplayer said:
no. the difference between ddr2 and 3 is not that signigicant from what ive seen.


Performance difference on a Phenom II 3 years ago wasn't much, but there are faster memory controllers now that would effect performance more. In any case there is a HUGE price difference with DDR2 being more expensive, 8Gb DDR3 is cheaper than 4Gb DDR2 last time I checked prices. I personally wouldn't invest money into any DDR2 RAM.
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March 18, 2012 11:26:31 PM

like right now im playing BF3 and its running decently. when i exit the game the computer is just slow as hell for a few minutes. then after 5 mins its as snappy as my new i5 4 gig ddr3 laptop. again im not a performance whore. i just want to know whats the best to buy for under 100 dollars that will get me the best performance gains. when i graduate in 2 months ill get alot of money but i wont spend much on that for my computer.
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March 18, 2012 11:30:39 PM

If you really want an upgrade then Mobo + ram is the way to go I reckon. But I doubt you'd get both for under 100 dollars.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:30:43 PM

60gb ssd.
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March 18, 2012 11:30:45 PM

loneninja said:
Performance difference on a Phenom II 3 years ago wasn't much, but there are faster memory controllers now that would effect performance more. In any case there is a HUGE price difference with DDR2 being more expensive, 8Gb DDR3 is cheaper than 4Gb DDR2 last time I checked prices. I personally wouldn't invest money into any DDR2 RAM.


see my issue is if i get ddr3 i will need a new mobo plus cpu. and i can get a great amd upgrade for 350 from newegg but i have not even close to that. still in highschool. i know i will need a better cpu eventually but its a quad core at 2.9. its still very good.
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March 18, 2012 11:32:29 PM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
If you really want an upgrade then Mobo + ram is the way to go I reckon. But I doubt you'd get both for under 100 dollars.


dont forget ill need a cpu with that new mobo
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March 18, 2012 11:35:50 PM

amuffin said:
60gb ssd.


will an ssd help with getting hung up after a game exit? i also forgot to mention playing BF3 i get hung up. i figure because i have way less than required ram. is that the problem? i know all the upgrades i need to get in the future when more money comes but as of now i just need something to get me by till then. i dont even really need ddr3 and amazing processer because aside from bf3 i can play every game i can think of amazingly. skyrim is a constant 60 fps
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March 18, 2012 11:36:56 PM

I'd say SSD is the only way to go to be honest if you're looking for performance. I own a 128gb M4 and can't believe I actually used my computer before! The difference is amazing.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:38:51 PM

The ssd will make up for the ram. It will boot up windows faster, make game opening much faster, and it will overal make your system awesome.
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March 18, 2012 11:39:19 PM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
I'd say SSD is the only way to go to be honest if you're looking for performance. I own a 128gb M4 and can't believe I actually used my computer before! The difference is amazing.


keep in mind i have 4 year old biostar mobo. i dont even think i can connect an ssd to it
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March 18, 2012 11:39:44 PM

just wait it out and save up, you not going to make a dent with $100 untill you have a new mobo.
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a b U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:41:48 PM

I think amuffin thought you were talking about the newer Phenom II x4 955. The 9950 is a fairly anemic CPU that was never recommended, mostly because it doesn't OC much.

I do think you should upgrade the CPU if possible. You haven't listed your MB yet. An Athlon II or even a used Phenom II would be a nice upgrade.

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March 18, 2012 11:41:52 PM

amuffin said:
The ssd will make up for the ram. It will boot up windows faster, make game opening much faster, and it will overal make your system awesome.


how can that be when my new laptop that has a 5400 rpm 500 gig laptop and i have a 1 tb 5400 rpm hard drive on my gaming desktop. and my laptop is much faster
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March 18, 2012 11:43:34 PM

schecterplayer said:
how can that be when my new laptop that has a 5400 rpm 500 gig laptop and i have a 1 tb 5400 rpm hard drive on my gaming desktop. and my laptop is much faster


It's the processor thats making the difference there.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:43:59 PM

Proximon said:
I think amuffin thought you were talking about the newer Phenom II x4 955. The 9950 is a fairly anemic CPU that was never recommended, mostly because it doesn't OC much.

I do think you should upgrade the CPU if possible. You haven't listed your MB yet. An Athlon II or even a used Phenom II would be a nice upgrade.

I absolutely have no experience with the previous gen of cpu's, then again I have only started looking at this stuff for roughly 7 months so I haven't really looked back, well at least on amd's side.. So I assume there is nearly 0 oc capability on 1st gen phenom?
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March 18, 2012 11:47:06 PM

I have a Phenom II x4 @ 3.7Ghz, and I've never felt limited by it apart from rendering videos. Its one of the best price/performance options out there right now.
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a b U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:47:34 PM

They ran kinda hot I think. We had the Wolfdales about the same time and so Intel got all the nods, until the Phenom II's came out. THOSE were great value at the time. even an old used Phenom II x3 720BE would be a nice upgrade, if it's possible to still find one.
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March 18, 2012 11:48:21 PM

A great deal of the Phenom II x2's can be unlocked to a X4 too. My girlfriend got one a few months back and it unlocked like a champ.
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March 18, 2012 11:50:10 PM

amuffin said:
I absolutely have no experience with the previous gen of cpu's, then again I have only started looking at this stuff for roughly 7 months so I haven't really looked back, well at least on amd's side.. So I assume there is nearly 0 oc capability on 1st gen phenom?


back to the thing about i have like no money lol. i really am not a crazy performance whore. i just want a slighlty better performance. i plan on upgrading my mobo/cpu in time. maybe for a xmas gift but for now i can play everything amazingly but there are times that are slow and i just want a solid performance.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:55:21 PM

ssd will give you solid performance, infact more performance than you will ever need. I still am waiting to upgrade to an ssd, but I am saving the money for water cooling parts :) 

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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 11:56:28 PM

Upgrading from a core 2 duo e8400 to an i7-2600k was a big jump for me, especially in rendering. From a 3 day render in cinema 4d with the e8400 to a 8 hour render was a huge jump.
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March 19, 2012 12:02:22 AM

amuffin said:
ssd will give you solid performance, infact more performance than you will ever need. I still am waiting to upgrade to an ssd, but I am saving the money for water cooling parts :) 


this is my mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i will not have enough to buy a new mobo cpu and ssd for a good while. hopefully in the next 2 months for graduation but for now this is what im stuck with
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March 19, 2012 12:04:18 AM

You have 6 SATA ports, so your mobo could take an SSD fine.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 12:04:24 AM

Ssd will work on that mobo!
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March 19, 2012 12:06:10 AM

amuffin said:
Ssd will work on that mobo!

is sata 3 any different than what i have?
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March 19, 2012 12:07:34 AM

It's technically double the bandwidth. But I have a SATA 2 mobo and a sata 3 drive. They're all backwards compatible, and when you upgrade to a SATA 3 mobo, you'll get yet another performance jump.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 12:09:04 AM

All sata's are backwards compatable!
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March 19, 2012 12:10:00 AM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
It's technically double the bandwidth. But I have a SATA 2 mobo and a sata 3 drive. They're all backwards compatible, and when you upgrade to a SATA 3 mobo, you'll get yet another performance jump.


so its only a slight data rate? anything will be better than a disk drive though im assuming. so you are all saying instead of spendind 60 dollars on ddr2 ram i should get a ssd and then upgrade everything else when i can?
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March 19, 2012 12:11:27 AM

amuffin said:
All sata's are backwards compatable!

ok. im sorry for my ignorance lol
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March 19, 2012 12:12:29 AM

Exactly what I'm saying. DDR2 is way overpriced when compared to DDR3. It's well worth getting the SSD. You can take it over to your new setup, which you can't with DDR2 RAM. The performance leap from HDD to SSD is astounding.

You'll be extremely impressed, heck after plugging mine in I couldn't wait to start gaming on it, so instead of buying a 2.5" drive adapter which I needed, I just sellotaped it to my case!
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March 19, 2012 12:15:09 AM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
Exactly what I'm saying. DDR2 is way overpriced when compared to DDR3. It's well worth getting the SSD. You can take it over to your new setup, which you can't with DDR2 RAM. The performance leap from HDD to SSD is astounding.

You'll be extremely impressed, heck after plugging mine in I couldn't wait to start gaming on it, so instead of buying a 2.5" drive adapter which I needed, I just sellotaped it to my case!


lol well that makes me happy to hear. that was my issue with the ddr2 not going to my upgrades. well.. ill save up for a ssd :)  thanks alot guys.

how much storage would you suggest for a gamer. keep in mind under 200
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March 19, 2012 12:17:31 AM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
Exactly what I'm saying. DDR2 is way overpriced when compared to DDR3. It's well worth getting the SSD. You can take it over to your new setup, which you can't with DDR2 RAM. The performance leap from HDD to SSD is astounding.

You'll be extremely impressed, heck after plugging mine in I couldn't wait to start gaming on it, so instead of buying a 2.5" drive adapter which I needed, I just sellotaped it to my case!


how much longer can i hang on to my mobo/ cpu? that upgrade is a bit further away for me. will it be an issue?
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March 19, 2012 12:18:51 AM

If you find performance in new games, especially taxing ones such as BF3 to be alright. Then I think you'll be fine for at least 6 months.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 12:22:29 AM

Just install os, browser, and games onto ssd.
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March 19, 2012 12:23:12 AM

Onlyusemeisaac said:
If you find performance in new games, especially taxing ones such as BF3 to be alright. Then I think you'll be fine for at least 6 months.


how great of a performance would you think ill get? cuz again i come from console. and i bought a hd 6850 graphics card and its on its way. right now im on a hd 4850 512 ddr3 card. would you have suggested the ssd before the video card?
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March 19, 2012 12:24:41 AM

amuffin said:
Just install os, browser, and games onto ssd.


and u said ssd has ways of copying os over to it from a disk drive? exactly how if you could explain please
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 12:25:23 AM

I am pretty sure that they provide you with software to do so.
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March 19, 2012 12:27:25 AM

amuffin said:
I am pretty sure that they provide you with software to do so.

ok cool. this all works out great!. a decent size ssd drive fits right in my price range plus i can move it to my new system
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March 19, 2012 12:38:54 AM

If you hadn't just bought a gfx card, I would have recommended a new Radeon 7000 series :p  But Im sure the 6850 shall serve you well. SSD is the way to go!
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March 19, 2012 12:41:06 AM

i only had 150 to spend on it. very limited with cash lol.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 19, 2012 6:55:42 AM

It would totally be bottlenecked^^
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