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December 17, 2011 5:55:14 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm building a new PC, but I'm not an expert, so I though I'd run it by everyone here. The goal: Run SW:TOR on the highest settings and Skyrim on at least really, really good settings.

Approximate Purchase Date: Soon!

Budget Range: $1200+/- $100 (though preferably in the $1100-$1250 range)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, writing/text editing, web searching

Parts Not Required: Hard drive and disc drives

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel processor and GeForce (though I'd go AMD and ATI if I'd get better bang for the buck; the reviews I've read say that GeForce is edging out ATI at this price range, though)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Probably

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200

Additional Comments: TOR at highest res, Skyrim at very good res


Components so far:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100311-3SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
PSU: XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt
MoBo: ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 32-bit - OEM
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R1 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Know I'm missing:
Hard drive - I'm stripping my old computer for its Hard Drive
Disc drive - I'm stripping my old computer for its disc drive

Total comes to: $1126

Few questions:
1) Am I missing anything? I mean anything - the list above is what I'm thinking I need to build this rig. If it's not on there, and I need it, I would very much appreciate someone pointing it out!
2) Any issues with that build? Compatibility, limitation to future upgrades, etc...
3) Would I be better off with another item replacing any of those?
4) Will this machine meet my expectations towards my goals (TOR at highest, Skyrim at high)?
5) Anything else would be very appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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December 17, 2011 6:11:31 PM

Hi there! Welcome to the forums.

First things first. Fill out this form and put in it your post, please. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...
Second, I have a little critique.

-I'd just for a GTX 570 or 6970 at this budget. We'll find the money for it farther down.
-Drop the HEC PSU! Get a quality 750w PSU from Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, XFX or Enermax.
-Swap the 2600k for the 2500k. Exact same processor really asides from Hyper Threading, which games don't benefit from. Save $100
-Grab a different mobo. The UD4 is alright but there are boards out there offering PCI-E 3.0 (just a nice feature) for the same cost. Might look into it.
-What about an SSD? They are excellent and make your machine screaming fast.

Well, that's all for now. I'll help you a bit more once you get that form filled out ;) 
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December 17, 2011 7:03:41 PM

Thanks for the help so far, and post edited (sorry about that)!

I looked for an i7 2500, but could only find the i5-2500. Is there an i7 2500, or is that an i5? And is there a huge difference?

Also, I know the SSDs make your computer screaming fast, but they seem expensive. Is it going to be worth the boost, and can I still come in around my budget by adding one? Is a 40gb one worth it?
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December 17, 2011 7:16:46 PM

do u have microcenter where you live ?
40gb will be too little and honestly they don't really worth the money at this point ..
the only thing is HDDs are pretty pricey right now
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December 17, 2011 7:19:12 PM

madchemist83 said:
do u have microcenter where you live ?
40gb will be too little and honestly they don't really worth the money at this point ..
the only thing is HDDs are pretty pricey right now


I do not - I'm in the heart of NYC.
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December 17, 2011 7:20:55 PM

ok anyways
everything looking good except PSu
also might get low profile ram so there is no interference with ur cooler
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December 17, 2011 7:54:30 PM

Replaced:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified ...
MoBo: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT51264BA160A
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December 17, 2011 9:19:39 PM

Just to put things in perspective I play Skyrim on Ultra High with my rig. I have a 550 watt pcu.
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December 17, 2011 9:22:57 PM

If OC'ing GFX and CPU, Id want a 850 w PSU. This will save ya $50 and still gives ya a 9.5 PSU performance rating
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$16 more will get you the 212's big brother (Hyper 612 PWM) and an extra 5-7C of cooling .... which equates to bigger CPU overclocks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Personally, I can't get behind basing my builds on a MoBo when the manufacturer is the only maker of enthusiast level MoBos on the planet who doesn't offer at least a 3 year warranty. $35 gets ya that 3rd year
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ya RAM is CAS 10 for $50. This is $8 cheaper and faster at CAS9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Carbide 500R gets great reviews and is only $115 this week, another $10
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4408/corsair_carbide_s...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So we put $68 back in ya pocket and spent $51 .... net $17. But ya left $124 on the table under ya preferred $1250 limit, so that leaves me $141 to spend :) 

And to do that, I gonna take back the $340 ya spending on the vid card to get me to $486 of spending money. I then gonna spend it on two Asus 900 Mhz 560 Ti's for $460....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here's why:

-In Guru3D's game test suite, twin 570's get 873 fps..... the two 900MHz 560 Ti's get 862 fps outta the box..... 11 fps costs ya $220.

-The 560 Ti's can be overclocked to 30% above reference speeds.....easy to hit 1000Mhz, most of the time w/o having to nudge the voltage at all......these guys hit 1070
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

-The 560's are based upon the newer GF114 architecture; the 570's on the GF110, making the 560's more efficient and able to run w/ lower temps.

-The two 560's will give you 65% more fps from Day 1 than the single 570. That's 27 fps in Metro 2033 for example versus 49 fps for the twin 560's

-The 560's cost 46 cents per frame w/ single card and 52 cents per frame in SLI. The 570's cost 65 cents per frame w/ single card (41% more) and 78 cents (50% more) per frame in SLI

It's all well and good to plan for spending another $340 for a 2nd card in SLI later on, but you can get two of them from the get-go and fit the build under ya original budget.






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December 18, 2011 1:42:58 AM

+1 @ JackNaylorPE
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December 18, 2011 2:33:57 AM

^ I'd have to agree for the most part. Dual 560 Ti's would kick major ass, and the 612 looks cool albeit unnecessary unless you want 4.5GHz+.
People will push Asus over ASRock but I like ASRock since they offer the same performance at a better price. It's all opinion though.
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December 18, 2011 2:46:16 AM

mw14220 said:
Just to put things in perspective I play Skyrim on Ultra High with my rig. I have a 550 watt pcu.

I fail to see what a PSU has to do with playing Skyrim LOL it ether powers your whole system or it does not LOL.
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December 18, 2011 2:51:21 AM

Shinners said:
Hey everyone,

I'm building a new PC, but I'm not an expert, so I though I'd run it by everyone here. The goal: Run SW:TOR on the highest settings and Skyrim on at least really, really good settings.

Approximate Purchase Date: Soon!

Budget Range: $1200+/- $100 (though preferably in the $1100-$1250 range)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, writing/text editing, web searching

Parts Not Required: Hard drive and disc drives

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel processor and GeForce (though I'd go AMD and ATI if I'd get better bang for the buck; the reviews I've read say that GeForce is edging out ATI at this price range, though)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Probably

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200

Additional Comments: TOR at highest res, Skyrim at very good res


Components so far:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified ...
MoBo: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT51264BA160A
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 32-bit - OEM
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R1 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Know I'm missing:
Hard drive - I'm stripping my old computer for its Hard Drive
Disc drive - I'm stripping my old computer for its disc drive

Total comes to: $1126

Few questions:
1) Am I missing anything? I mean anything - the list above is what I'm thinking I need to build this rig. If it's not on there, and I need it, I would very much appreciate someone pointing it out!
2) Any issues with that build? Compatibility, limitation to future upgrades, etc...
3) Would I be better off with another item replacing any of those?
4) Will this machine meet my expectations towards my goals (TOR at highest, Skyrim at high)?
5) Anything else would be very appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

If it just a gaming rig and watching movies surfing the net etc go AMD/RADEON it will save you coin and makes a great media/gaming rig plus when reading review watch out because soom reviewers are paid off by Nvidia and of indirectly work for them but ether way you go you will be happy but a 2500k is overkill.
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December 18, 2011 2:53:20 AM

Headspin_69 said:
If it just a gaming rig and watching movies surfing the net etc go AMD/RADEON it will save you coin and makes a great media/gaming rig plus when reading review watch out because soom reviewers are paid off by Nvidia and of indirectly work for them but ether way you go you will be happy but a 2500k is overkill.

No. 2500k is not overkill. I don't think Nvidia is paying off reviewers... This coming from an AMD guy xD

Seriously though, might grab a pair of 6950's since AMD has better performance in SWTOR right now. Just a thought.
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December 18, 2011 2:59:30 AM

striker410 said:
No. 2500k is not overkill. I don't think Nvidia is paying off reviewers... This coming from an AMD guy xD

Seriously though, might grab a pair of 6950's since AMD has better performance in SWTOR right now. Just a thought.

I am not a fanboy look a my rig GTX 275 NVIDIA I am loyal only to my wallet Merry Christmas.
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December 18, 2011 3:02:45 AM

striker410 said:
No. 2500k is not overkill. I don't think Nvidia is paying off reviewers... This coming from an AMD guy xD

Seriously though, might grab a pair of 6950's since AMD has better performance in SWTOR right now. Just a thought.

Hey if I may interject a bit the Radeon HD 6870 in CFX would save you allot of money and they scale at the top end in SWTOR 120+ fps almost all the time.
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December 18, 2011 3:06:27 AM

striker410 said:
No. 2500k is not overkill. I don't think Nvidia is paying off reviewers... This coming from an AMD guy xD

Seriously though, might grab a pair of 6950's since AMD has better performance in SWTOR right now. Just a thought.


If I grab the pair, will it create problems when I want to upgrade, or can I leave one in and run it Crossfire with a different, more powerful card?

Dual 6950s also seem to run around $500, which might put me over my limit...Might have to up that limit :) 
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December 18, 2011 3:09:04 AM

Shinners said:
If I grab the pair, will it create problems when I want to upgrade, or can I leave one in and run it Crossfire with a different, more powerful card?

Dual 6950s also seem to run around $500, which might put me over my limit...Might have to up that limit :) 

Then a single 6970 may be just what you need ;)  on the same level as the GTX 570 but also has killer performance in SWTOR.
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December 18, 2011 3:14:23 AM

Headspin_69 said:
Hey if I may interject a bit the Radeon HD 6870 in CFX would save you allot of money and they scale at the top end in SWTOR 120+ fps almost all the time.


striker410 said:
No. 2500k is not overkill. I don't think Nvidia is paying off reviewers... This coming from an AMD guy xD

Seriously though, might grab a pair of 6950's since AMD has better performance in SWTOR right now. Just a thought.

6870 CFX will be within your budget and will be more power than you even need to run SWTOR in all it glory.
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December 18, 2011 3:17:59 AM

Headspin_69 said:
6870 CFX Rape on a single 6970 and they cost about the same price to boot.


It'd be more expensive when I eventually upgrade them, though, right? Or am I wrong in that? If I could mix and match the GPUs in Crossfire, I'd definitely go 6870. But if I had to switch both out eventually, that'd add up.
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December 18, 2011 3:24:45 AM

Unfortunately no, you cannot. You have to use a pair of GPU's from the same series. (like a 5850 and a 5870, or a 6990 and a 6970) Plus some people complain about micro-stuttering. I think it's not a big issue but lots of people swear by single card configurations because of it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This one for sure. $40 or so off for the next 3 days, decide quick!
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December 18, 2011 3:32:05 AM

striker410 said:
Unfortunately no, you cannot. You have to use a pair of GPU's from the same series. (like a 5850 and a 5870, or a 6990 and a 6970) Plus some people complain about micro-stuttering. I think it's not a big issue but lots of people swear by single card configurations because of it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This one for sure. $40 or so off for the next 3 days, decide quick!


Awesome, thanks for the info.

So, final system:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R1
Paste: Arctic 5, of course
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100311-3SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
MoBo: ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA
SSD: Crucial CT064M4SSD2 m4 2.5" Solid State Drive - 64GB
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (any way to get this cheaper than $100?)
Case: Completely for looks, NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish
Total after MIR: $1240 (hmm, upgrade to the i7? Any benefits, or no since most games aren't optimized for 8 threads?)

This way, I can upgrade next time by throwing in another 6970 without replacing the system (my current one has a MoBo that only takes DDR2, hence new system time) and more RAM. The PSU is enough to run both, or should I upgrade to 850W?
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December 18, 2011 3:35:44 AM

Shinners said:
It'd be more expensive when I eventually upgrade them, though, right? Or am I wrong in that? If I could mix and match the GPUs in Crossfire, I'd definitely go 6870. But if I had to switch both out eventually, that'd add up.

What do you mean switch both out you can always go back to a single card and with the 6870cfx you will be laughing at any system requirements for 2 years to come and then some because it even puts the rape on a GTX 580.
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December 18, 2011 3:37:14 AM

I saw that you're going with windows 7 32bit and 8Gb, you'll need the 64bit version to use 8Gb of ram.
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December 18, 2011 3:39:16 AM

nocteratus said:
I saw that you're going with windows 7 32bit and 8Gb, you'll need the 64bit version to use 8Gb of ram.

+1 good catch.
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December 18, 2011 3:43:17 AM

Headspin_69 said:
What do you mean switch both out you can always go back to a single card and with the 6870cfx you will be laughing at any system requirements for 2 years to come and then some because it even puts the rape on a GTX 580.


What I was saying was right now, I can go with a single 6970 for $320.00 or 6870cfx for ~$500. When I want to upgrade my system, in the first case, I pick up another 6970, say $225 in a year when I need the extra power, and run them cfx; in the second case, I pull out both 6870 and need to just buy a new card, which I would imagine will similarly be slower than the 6970cfx at that point in time. From what I'm hearing, the 6970 will run Skyrim and TOR just fine on high settings, is cheaper, and is easier to upgrade for the reasons stated above. Is there anything wrong with my reasoning? (not a challenge, genuinely trying to figure this out)

Also, for the SSD, is it worth it to go 128GB at 3Gbps, or should I go with the Crucial 64 at 6Gpbs? They're both around the same price.

Also, nocteratus, good catch - thanks!
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December 18, 2011 3:44:27 AM

striker410 said:
I'd roll with an 850w PSU just in case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Second, what do you mean DDR2? The system you own or the system you have listed?


System I own right now. Since I'd have to replace the motherboard anyway to upgrade to DDR3, it's essentially the price of just getting a new PC. At least, that's what I'm going to tell myself ;-)
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December 18, 2011 3:46:32 AM

What do you mean? 3Gbps SSD's top out at around ~280MBps. 6Gbps can go up to around ~535MBps right now I believe. Could you list what drives you are comparing?
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December 18, 2011 3:52:12 AM

Shinners said:
What I was saying was right now, I can go with a single 6970 for $320.00 or 6870cfx for ~$500. When I want to upgrade my system, in the first case, I pick up another 6970, say $225 in a year when I need the extra power, and run them cfx; in the second case, I pull out both 6870 and need to just buy a new card, which I would imagine will similarly be slower than the 6970cfx at that point in time. From what I'm hearing, the 6970 will run Skyrim and TOR just fine on high settings, is cheaper, and is easier to upgrade for the reasons stated above. Is there anything wrong with my reasoning? (not a challenge, genuinely trying to figure this out)

Also, for the SSD, is it worth it to go 128GB at 3Gbps, or should I go with the Crucial 64 at 6Gpbs? They're both around the same price.

Also, nocteratus, good catch - thanks!

6870cfx will cost around the same $320 as the 6970 but you will be reviving the performance in the high end far above what one 6970 can give you so you will not have to upgrade for a long time even much longer than one 6970 and for the same price. This is why CFX/SLI is such a great deal.
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December 18, 2011 3:57:17 AM

Headspin_69 said:
6870cfx will cost around the same $320 as the 6970 but you will be reviving the performance in the high end far above what one 6970 can give you so you will not have to upgrade for a long time even much longer than one 6970 and for the same price. This is why CFX/SLI is such a great deal.


Ah, I was thinking dual 6950s were in the $500 range...Might have to go dual 6870 then...too many decisions!
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December 18, 2011 4:06:19 AM

Shinners said:
Ah, I was thinking dual 6950s were in the $500 range...Might have to go dual 6870 then...too many decisions!

look at the benches the only cards that beat 6870cfx are the Nvidia GTX 590 and the Radeon HD 6990 then under those is the 6870cfx and the GTX 580 and well I am sure you know how the rest goes.The best part is that this kind of high end performance that the 6870cfx provide can be had for the low price of $320 verses over $600 for the next step up in cfx performance which would be 6950cfx.
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December 18, 2011 4:07:20 AM

Sure about arctic 5 ? Ceramiq has same performance but cost half. Save 5$ :) 
Go for one gpu. Microstuttering is a problem. Also cf scales up better then sli but the difference between high and low fps is bigger ... there is microstuttering. Sli is a bit better.
Also better gpu less pronounce that effect. If u cf different cards i.e. hd6950 and hd6970 it will scale down.
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December 18, 2011 4:10:40 AM

madchemist83 said:
Sure about arctic 5 ? Ceramiq has same performance but cost half. Save 5$ :) 
Go for one gpu. Microstuttering is a problem. Also cf scales up better then sli but the difference between high and low fps is bigger ... there is microstuttering. Sli is a bit better.
Also better gpu less pronounce that effect. If u cf different cards i.e. hd6950 and hd6970 it will scale down.

There is no stuttering with the latest drivers.
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December 18, 2011 4:12:02 AM

Ehhh yeah right. Who told u that? Ati? :) 
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December 18, 2011 4:15:08 AM

madchemist83 said:
Ehhh yeah right. Who told u that? Ati? :) 

who is ati ? and typical Nvidia fan boy response when a couple o cards that cost 320 for the pair crush there Nvidia flagship they claim ooo Microstuttering when my old CFX rig never did.
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December 18, 2011 4:19:15 AM

madchemist83 said:
Ehhh yeah right. Who told u that? Ati? :) 

Nvidia fan boy response to a well performing Radeon CFX setup "well the drivers suck and there always the microstutering"
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December 18, 2011 5:35:21 AM

So from everything here, I think I'm going with a single 6970. That way, when the 7000 series hits, I can either upgrade to that (and only have to deal with selling a single card), or I can get a second 6970 for Crossfire and rider that out (plus, I should have some more spending cash after the holidays).

Thanks for all your help, everyone! I haven't ordered yet, though, so if someone has a last minute interjection, I'm still listening.
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December 18, 2011 5:41:57 AM

Shinners said:
So from everything here, I think I'm going with a single 6970. That way, when the 7000 series hits, I can either upgrade to that (and only have to deal with selling a single card), or I can get a second 6970 for Crossfire and rider that out (plus, I should have some more spending cash after the holidays).

Thanks for all your help, everyone! I haven't ordered yet, though, so if someone has a last minute interjection, I'm still listening.

if your upgrading in three months when the 7xxx series hit the floor then you might as well get a cheaper card now that will still max out all the games and tide you over other wise just go 6970 CFX right off the hop.
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December 18, 2011 1:48:48 PM

Alright shinners, rock on! Glad you found what works for you. There's lots of discussion and lots of opinions (hey, it's a forum! That's what it's supposed to be like :p  ) and the hard part is sifting through them.

I would advise against that Corsair. It's only 80GB and the performance isn't real good. At $150 after rebate (a bit pricer, I know) this OCZ Agility 3 120GB gets my pick. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I had one actually, I loved it. Never had any of the heartburn that some people get with OCZ drives. It's still possible to get a bad drive though.

If there's any other questions be sure to post here or shoot me a PM!

P.S. would you mind changing your above post to what you think you're going with now? It still shows the old PSU.
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December 18, 2011 4:47:46 PM

Im no nvidia fanboy. Good luck with those radeons
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December 18, 2011 7:18:08 PM

madchemist83 said:
Im no nvidia fanboy. Good luck with those radeons

Dont need luck and to you I hope you enjoyed overpaying LOL 6850 CFX for under $300 beat any Nivdia and you know why because they only cost $300 .
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December 18, 2011 8:35:41 PM

it doesn't beat 560 ti sli :) 
I get what u saying is that for $300 u can get same performance as u can get for $500
but there is no room for upgrade
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December 18, 2011 9:28:12 PM

madchemist83 said:
it doesn't beat 560 ti sli :) 
I get what u saying is that for $300 u can get same performance as u can get for $500
but there is no room for upgrade

there is no room for upgrade with 56oti ether and that cost well over 5 bills.
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December 18, 2011 9:28:42 PM

Chill guys. He's already bought his parts :) 
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December 18, 2011 9:33:39 PM

striker410 said:
Chill guys. He's already bought his parts :) 

So that does not mean we cant carry on a conversation oh my god he bought his parts already lets shut everything down LOL.
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