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December 18, 2011 8:40:02 PM

I am strongly considering building a mid-end Nvidia/AMD gaming pc, hopefully during Christmas. Could you check for compatibility of these pieces and give me recommendations? Note, I am considering to eventually make it into a SLI build (though not for now) as game’s processing standards increases.

I already have a basic keyboard, mouse and monitor that some friends are willing give to me.

If you propose ugpgraded parts, please propose which I should downgrade to remain in the same price range (lower than $1000).

Also I am in California

Items found from Newegg.com:
Case: $65
APEVIA X-TROOPER Series X-TRP-GN Black / Green Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Model #: X-TRP-GN
Item #:N82E16811144267

Mother Board: $115
ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Model #:970 EXTREME4
Item #:N82E16813157262

Graphics Card: $180
MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:N460GTX Cyclone 1GD5
Item #:N82E16814127510

Power Supply: $130
APEVIA WARLOCK POWER ATX-WA900W 900W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
Model #: ATX-WA900W
Item #:N82E16817148036

CPU: $140
AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDZ970FBGMBOX
Model #:HDZ970FBGMBOX
Item #:N82E16819103894

Ram: $50
Mushkin Enhanced Radioactive 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 997005
Model #:997005
Item #:N82E16820226219

Hard Drive: $150
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:HD103SJ
Item #:N82E16822152185

Operating system: $100
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Model #: GFC-02050
Item #:N82E16832116986

(current total $930, without shipping or rebates)

Thanks,
and happy holidays

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December 18, 2011 8:57:41 PM
December 18, 2011 10:19:13 PM

Yes it's all compatible.

The Apevia Warlock Power 900W is not a good unit:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

You don't need a 900W PSU to SLI/CF the sort of graphics cards below $200. A 650W PSU is plenty, these are the two I'd recommend:
Rosewill Capstone 650W 80Plus Gold $100 (10% off promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Pro 650W Core Edition 80Plus Bronze $80 ($30 rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616&vpn=P1650SNLB9&m...

A 6870 or GTX 560 would be better performers and better priced than a GTX 460.
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December 22, 2011 3:10:25 AM

Thank you for the prompt reply Silvune,

I'm taking your advice for choosing the GTX560.

Happy holidays
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December 22, 2011 3:50:13 AM

go for intel cpu like i5-2500k
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December 22, 2011 4:22:09 AM

Instead of the Phenom 970 consider using the FX 4100 .
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-4...
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/
Out of the box its a little slower than the 970 but overclocks much more , and is a lot cheaper .

The GTX 460 is a nice card but its also old . Can you fit a GTX 560 in your budget?

The power supply is not a brand I would trust , and if it can make 750 watts without blowing up it will be wasted . That rig needs 500 watt , or 650 if you will SLI at some point .
The Corsair TX 650 will save you enough that you can get a better graphics card
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December 22, 2011 7:40:36 AM

Didn't you read my message Outlander ? or for that matter Toms review? FX 4100 is way worse then any second gen intel
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December 22, 2011 8:10:01 AM

madchemist83 said:
Didn't you read my message Outlander ? or for that matter Toms review? FX 4100 is way worse then any second gen intel



Where have Toms hardware reviewed the FX 4100 and/or compared it to any intel processor?
And what intel processor are you recommending in this price range that will be better than the FX or Phenom?

As for your private messages . They didnt contain anything you recognizable as logic or thoughtfully considered opinion , and they certainly didnt contain any data to back your assertions .
Reading them was a waste of my time .


In the meantime perhaps you could read the links I posted earlier . Im assuming you must have some data of some kind to back your assertions .
Post a link . Im sure it will be fascinating
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December 22, 2011 11:25:47 AM

in the OP price range clearly i3-2100 is a best budget choice
Tom's reviewed higher FX-6100 versus i3-2400 and it failed miserably
therefore fx-4100 will fail compared to i3-2100
which I clearly stated in my message and you don't have to swear at me for no reason.
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December 22, 2011 12:58:59 PM

oh my god
another one?
here .. here is link http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...
so FX-4100 vs i3-2120 FAIL in every game and synthetic benchmark
general performance http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...
FAIL again
Apps performance
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...
pretty equal on average .. fail here and win there
is this data is good enough for you ?
or for that matter for Outlander that keeps parroting about how FX-4100 is "the budget king"
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December 22, 2011 3:51:34 PM

Ive read that review .
They didnt use an FX 4100 . They used the 8150 and turned off modules in BIOS
and then they game at low resolution where the intels two stronger threads pay off .
You do see that .
But for the majority of games where the game can use 4 threads then the FX 4100 produces better FPS
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December 22, 2011 7:30:09 PM

R u sure. They clearly state that they use all 4 processors. And in the gaming part statement says that "FX processors clearly not cut for gaming, being outperformed by i5 i3 and even phenoms". The reason is that contemporary games can rarelly use all cores.
And my thought soon there will be gpgpus that can take care of processing most of the data. Even supercomputers right now use more gpus then cpus
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