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December 20, 2011 6:48:21 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: (e.g.: this week (the closer the better))

Budget Range: about $1,300

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, movies, internet, etc.
Parts Not Required: Monitor, mouse, keyboard, and power supply (850w Thermaltake ToughPower)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel, Cooler Master, etc.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1360x768

Additional Comments: I am making a new build and would like some advice. Any input/comments on the devices I've chosen is appreciated. Wanna know if this is a solid build that will be able to handle the higher setting on games such as Skyrim, BF3, etc. Mostly just looking for incompatibility issues that I may have overlooked. Giving full descriptions so they can be easily found on newegg. Sorry if they're long.

Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

MOBO - ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

CPU - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K

CPU Cooling - COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Intel Core i7 compatible

GPU - EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SDD - Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

CD/DVD Burner - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

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December 20, 2011 7:12:15 AM
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Would you consider getting better monitor?
At your resolution HD6850 will max out about everything.
I would downgrade on a mobo to Asus P8z68-v pro/gen 3
also get 2500k as there is no difference in gaming
swap cooler for CM 612 PWM
and get a bigger (120 Gb) SSD
and I would wait for HDDs to drop in price and just use SSD for now.
now that HDDs manufacturers cutting on warranty too
December 20, 2011 7:23:32 AM

I'd like a better monitor, but because of space complications here I'm dual using my TV as a monitor.

The HD6850 looks good. I've seen it mentioned in many other threads. My only concern is that it will be obsolete within a year. I know that the 560 ti may also be, but it seemed like a safer choice. I tend to rebuild about every 3 to 4 years. Would this make me for at least 2 years. I don't mind upgrading as long as its only 1 or 2 parts every couple years.

The mobo was actually the hardest thing for me to find. I want a reliable one and it seems like many if not all are having issues now whether it be load up issues, not recognizing parts, etc. Have you ever personally used this one?

What exactly is the difference between the 2600k and the 2500k?

Is there a paticular reason behind switching to the CM 612 PWM?

I was definitely thinking of just using one SSD. I have my current hard drive and I know that will suffice for major backup.

Sorry for all the questions, trying to cover a lot of bases at once.
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December 20, 2011 7:30:08 AM

2600k has hyper threading so you get 8 cores instead of 4, doesn't matter for gaming or the normal day to day desktop activities. Nice money saver if you don't need HT.

I am running a 120gb SSD and I can tell you that when you actually pay attention to what your puttin on your os drive you can stretch the size pretty far.
December 20, 2011 7:38:15 AM

cm 612 being better cooler and quieter
also check out fractal design arc midi and define r3 cases
then go for HD 6870 and then crossfire them
otherwise I'd go with either HD6950 or gtx 560 ti 448
I have not personally used that mobo but downgrading to pro version will not impact on performance
December 20, 2011 8:44:00 AM

Basically:

- Do not go for 2600k, stick with 2500k. In your usage doesn't make any difference.
- If possible wait couple weeks, I think AMD 7000 series will be out! So you could get the newer series, or the old one cheaper (or even some discounted nvidia ones).
- Downgrade your mobo, there's no necessity in using P8Z68 Deluxe.

- Spend all the money you saved in a better single VGA. This will avoid heat, noise, configuration, scalability problems. (SLI/Crossfire)
December 20, 2011 9:15:48 AM

Just checked that you don't want SLI/Crossfire. Saying this you could get a MUCH cheaper mobo. Take simpliest Z68 mobo you find from a manufacturer you like.

Asrock is a nice mobo manufacturer
look at this one: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's 150 dollars cheaper than your previous selection. And getting the 2500k saves your another 100 dollars. It's enough to upgrade your GTX 560 Ti to a GTX 580. And be covered in case you use a Full HD in the future or to make it last for 4 years in this resolution.
December 20, 2011 3:23:37 PM

Excuse me but Asrock is not nice manufacturer. Their boards are thin and flimsy and have poor layouts. And good luck making it last 4 years with 2 year warranty mobo.
December 20, 2011 4:19:24 PM

Ok, well the CPU is definitely decided upon now.

Ill keep looking for a mobo, but make sure its a downgrade.

What exactly are the benefits of SLI/Crossfire. I know it shares the workload but is there THAT big of a difference?

and thanks in advance for the advice already.
December 20, 2011 4:31:11 PM

madchemist83 said:
Excuse me but Asrock is not nice manufacturer. Their boards are thin and flimsy and have poor layouts. And good luck making it last 4 years with 2 year warranty mobo.


Never had an Asrock mobo, but people that have is talking greately about them. Did you have any trouble with them?
December 20, 2011 5:17:28 PM

I'd drop the CPU down to the 2500k for a gaming box

Total $1304

Case - $ 115 - Corsaie Carbide 500R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Great case - http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

MoBo - $ 210 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Agree on the MoBo and yes, I won't go near any MoBo manufacturer that doesn't offer a 3 year warranty.

CPU - $ 220 - Intel Core i7-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler - $ 50 - CM Hyper 612 PWM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - $ 47 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair Vengeance http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX - $ 230 - Asus GTX 560 900Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - - Same
Way more than enough for your resolution ....adding a second when ya get new monitor will give ya 40% more fps than a 580, and no, there is no microstuttering. They get 862 fps outta the box in Guru3D game test suite, two factory OC'd 6950's get 759 fps, two 6970's 825 fps, two 570's 873 fps....all of which cost more.

Peeps have OC'd this board to 30% above reference......I have bought 11 of em so far .... set at 20% ish
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

HD - $ 110 - Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$40 off if ya act fast - $40 off w/ promo code EMCJHJE29, ends 12/21

SSD - $ 209 - 120 GB Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Look at this list......each tier drop is according to THG a 10% performance difference.....that's a 21 % drop between your tier 5 pick and this one
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-price-ssd,3070...

DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Threw in Blue Ray, ya had the budget

Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Threw in card reader and fan controller, again, ya had the budget
December 20, 2011 5:24:55 PM

bubbagumpalump said:
What exactly are the benefits of SLI/Crossfire. I know it shares the workload but is there THAT big of a difference?


One factory OC'd 6950 goes from 484 fps as single card to 759 in CF
One factory OC'd 560 (900Mhz) goes from 495 fps as single card to 862 in SLI
One 6970 goes from 526 fps as single card to 825 in CF
One 570 goes from 524 fps as single card to 873 in CF
One 580 goes from 616 fps as single card to 953 in CF

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05

Two of these for $460 give 862 fps
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One of these gives 616 fps for $520 (Take off whatever for free batman game)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

December 30, 2011 2:21:02 PM

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