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December 21, 2011 9:46:53 PM

I'm a first time builder with a budget around $1200. Im willing to go a bit over that for a big upgrade. My primary use is gaming. Here is my proposed system.. is there any component here that seems out of place? Is everything compatible with one another? is the cooling and power sufficient?

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-D3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

DVD-RW: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner 24X DVD R 8X DVD RW 12X DVD R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

TC: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

CASE: Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 120mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan, 1x Top 120mm Fan, 1x Bottom Fan
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...


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December 21, 2011 10:02:42 PM
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Looks pretty good with a couple of suggestions - if you're going to sink that much into a build I'd heavily suggest buying a better motherboard and case.

These are my go-to cases for the money:

- Cooler Master HAF 912: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
- Antec 300: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

And then the motherboard. If you can get this one:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Or this one:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Otherwise your build looks pretty good.
December 21, 2011 10:35:03 PM

Disagree on case. Rosewill is pretty good case. If you want to step up go for fractal design arc midi
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December 21, 2011 10:48:25 PM

Ya want the XFX Core Edition 650 ($60) over the TX650 V2 ($80)....same 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating but $10 cheaper. Tho for $20 more an 850 watter from XFX will handle SLI / CF
$70 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
$100 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Some other possible considerations

MoBo won't do SLI / CF .... cuts off major upgrade path
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM here is cheaper and won't interfere w/ CPU coolers.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HD - Barracuda XT = great drive.....Barracuda no XT, not so much

Optical - Don't wanna be able to watch Blue Ray ?
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.cA/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Case - I'd do the Illusion....too bad, was $40 last week
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

TIM - Read AS5's web site ?
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

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Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity.


200 hours of thermal cycling means about 5 minutes for each time ya boot up and 5 more when ya shut down shut down. AT that rate 200 hours could take a year. Shin Etsu has exact same thermal properties but no curing issues.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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So by my estimation of this statement it would take almost a year of normal use to properly cure the AC5 compound, or almost nine days of continuous power cycles to meet their recommendation.


http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound (4) Polysynthetic Silver Low / Thin 37.55°C A+
Shin-Etsu MicroSi G751 (0) Aluminum Oxide Moderate 37.55°C A+


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

GFX : Easier choice here south of the border where difference is just $45 ..... less so up by you where two 560 Ti 900Mhz will give ya 40% more fps than a single 580 for $480 ...just $110 more than your selected single card...






December 21, 2011 10:56:33 PM

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MoBo won't do SLI / CF .... cuts off major upgrade path
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813131792


But this motherboard also has built in video - something you want to avoid when you have a good dedicated GPU. I'd suggest this board instead: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

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Ya want the XFX Core Edition 650 ($60) over the TX650 V2 ($80)....same 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating but $10 cheaper. Tho for $20 more an 850 watter from XFX will handle SLI / CF
$70 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817207014
$100 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817207011


850W for SLI? Really? I mean it makes sense but you could get away with a 750 perfectly fine and still have plenty of wattage to spare.

Quote:
GFX : Easier choice here south of the border where difference is just $45 ..... less so up by you where two 560 Ti 900Mhz will give ya 40% more fps than a single 580 for $480 ...just $110 more than your selected single card...


That depends on budget. If the OP has the money then yeah go for it. If not then it'd be wise to invest that $110 elsewhere.
December 21, 2011 11:20:02 PM

That looks pretty good- but for less than 50$ more you could get twice large a hard drive. I went with a 500 GB on my build and I'm wishing I'd put forth a little more cash for a 1TB.
Maybe one like this.
December 21, 2011 11:42:55 PM

What is wrong with the HAF 912?
December 21, 2011 11:45:34 PM

Thanks for the advice guys.. I have a few questions/comments about the suggestions.

I will upgrade case to Antec as recommended since this case is the same price as the Rosewill with shipping
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

About the motherboard.. according to my research, the z68 only includes more options over the p67 (ie, SSD cache) which I will NOT be using and maybe a small performance boost. The motherboards you guys have suggested are way more expensive than my proposed MOBO ($160/$189 vs $105). Knowing that I will not be using either SSD or SLI (not now or in the near future)... is there a point to paying significantly more for a z68?

About the power supply, first of all the XFX 650 and the corsair 650 are both listed as $99, but reviews tell me Corsair is the most trusted brand for the all-important PSU... and yes another 20 dollars can get me an 850V but I am not going to be doing any SLI config, so I feel that 650W is plenty for a single GTX 570, am I mistaken?

@JackNaylor, That corsair RAM you suggested is not in stock and has been deactivated from newegg. Also, are you suggesting that my GSkill ram will interfere with my CM Hyper 212+?

I do not want a blue ray drive, that's what the television is for. My games are all on steam.. I don't even use my current DVD drive.

Thanks for all the advice, but even my first proposal was over my original budget by almost 200 bucks. Paying "only 100 bucks" more for a modest upgrade is not practical unless it is to avoid a bottleneck.
December 22, 2011 1:01:13 AM

bump
December 22, 2011 2:53:10 AM

Can anyone respond to my last post please?
December 28, 2011 11:12:23 PM

Best answer selected by jwarr.
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