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December 23, 2011 8:18:58 AM

Hi there,

First of all, I wanted to thank all the respected participants here, whose topics on how to build a new system helped me understand hardware components and their relations a bit better. Although I'm in the IT business, hardware components were never my strong side, so cudos to you all for expanding my knowledge on this area.

Secondly, I wanted to ask your opinion on the following components that I want to buy for a new system:

Approximate Purchase Date: next week would be preferable, but soon

Budget Range: 600 USD (I never used rebates, and I think we don't have rebates in Hungary, so let's forget about that) - I can go up to 680 USD, but I really don't want to spend much more than that

System Usage from Most to Least Important: watching movies, gaming, surfing the internet

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, HDDs for data storage

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, although obviously I will buy the parts in Hungary, so I really just use it for reviews - don't know how much it would help to show you a Hungarian computer hardware website... (will do if you ask me to)

Country: Hungary

Parts Preferences: I would like to use an AMD CPU, full tower case, and preferably a radeon, but you can override my decisions as you want to, because although I have an AMD CPU now, I really don't bend towards any brands

Overclocking: Maybe, but probably will stick to the defaults in the first half year

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, but that's for later, too, not right now, one GPU would be fine

Monitor Resolution: right now my LG IPS231P-BN runs on 1920x1080, and I intend to keep using it like that

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet PC, and a rather fast one, too, of course. The price range is converted from HUF (Hungarian Forints).

These are the parts I chose:

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Processor: AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Hard Drive (SSD for OS): Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

I intent to use the CPU's default cooler, that's why it's not on the list.

What do you think? What would you change?

Thanks in advance for your answers,
Ben

More about : system 600 680

December 23, 2011 8:58:31 AM

BTW* EDIT: You do have pretty solid parts going on there what you picked. You can do better for the money though ;) 

Mobo is rock solid, gskill is legit, sapphire is reputable relative to xfx and diamond, and the like, and the modxstream pro is a good budget PSU that got an excellent review on hardwaresecrets.com

However... you can go sandybridge, have better performance NOW for relatively same price and a much better upgrade path in the future.
done editing*

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here's a sample build i've done with a slightly lower budget.
$500 build, NOTE: Pricing is REALLY low, since I was sucking the ground dry for bargains with this build. You probably cannot get that kind of pricing since there's rebates, coupon codes, and free shipping. We are quite fortunate to live in the United States! And specifically, near a computer store called MicroCenter which offers things like i3-2100+MSI H61 board for $123. :o OOOOOOOOO
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoqm-6PvQW...
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I'll try to think about your build in normal retail pricing rather than a deal hunter's since you might not have the same kind of sales/rebates available in Hungary.

First things first: I would get away from AMD and go LGA 1155 for Sandy Bridge.
For price/performance, Sandy Bridge is it almost at all price points thanks to their i3-2100 model which smokes/edges out all of AMDs offerings, overclocked or not pretty much.

Your CPU? Two options: i3-2100 or the i5-2500k. $115 or $225
Your mobo? Two Options: H61 or P67/Z68?. I suggest the latter. MAKE SURE you pick a board that has more than 4+1 VRMs. Long read about why but basically means OC'ing is safe and your board won't limit your CPU and definitely not catch fire. $100 to $200 depending which chipset. A decent P67/Z68 should run ~$140. http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-mo...

I would highly recommend getting a p67 or z68 board so you can overclock. an i5-2500k is the hands down chip you would get either now or upgrade to later down the line. 4.0~4.4ghz on air, stock cooler? THIS IS MADNESS!

P.S. i3-2100 will NOT bottleneck any single GPU. SLI/XFire, I don't know. Ask on some forums.

Your Boot Drive? Personally I would pick a $1/GB drive, probably OCZ can work or there's lots of sales going on in the US, not sure about abroad but you can find non-OCZ brands for $1/gb easy here. Corsair, etc. $40-60 & 40-60gb.

AT THIS POINT you got what. $680-50-115-150=? $365!

Your PSU: PLEASE spare yourself time and frustration, and do research here, start @ the stickies http://www.overclock.net/f/31/power-supplies Jonnyguru.com Hardwaresecrets.com all do legit reviews of PSUs and some of them fail to do what they state they can. $40-50. 500w is more than sufficient for single GPU systems. It can handle a first gen i7 & gtx 580 BOTH with HIGH overclocks.

PSU CALC: http://www.overclock.net/t/1140534/psu-calc-final-relea...

$40-$50... so You have $300 left.

Your RAM: NOW is the time. $20-$30 for 8GB DDR3, @ 1600, 1.5v, CL9 is flying like HOTCAKES every other week. Do NOT get 1.65v RAM. 1600 is worth getting over 1333 but don't bust your balls over it.

Your case? You didn't list one but I'm assuming you're going to breadboard your build forever like mine is right next to me right now since I brought mine home on winterbreak. SILENCE. Fractal Design Define R3 is what I have, it is LEGITLY quiet. I did put in more fans however, 120mm fans cost money but they reduce noise and increase cooling.

$30-50 for a decent case no frills. $120 for Fractal R3... That extra $90 goes a LONG way for your GPU so I would recommend a normal case.

Because I've purposely gotten the i3-2100 instead of the i5-2500k, here's where your gaming bottleneck lies, your GPU. I don't try and skimp on other components but I do try and get quality parts, no frills, everything just what one needs so the rest of the money can juice up the graphics card which usually makes the biggest visible difference in gaming.

Assuming you have an
i3-2100,
P67/Z68 mobo with enough VRMs & vrm cooling,
500w legitimate PSU with good reviews from that http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power... I asked you to look at up there
A case
DDR3 RAM, 4gb is fine if you can't get 8, just don't have 100 Google Chrome tabs when you're playing BF3.

GPU! WHADDYA GOT? Well, $600-all that = ~$235 is between a Gtx 560 Ti WITH 448 SHADERS, and a GTX 570. Similarly you can get a 6950 2GB model, but that extra 1gb VRAM is wasted @ resolutions 1080p and under. 6970 1gb? NVIDIA seems like the better option.

The PSU does not allow you to do SLI in the future and honestly, there's lots of headache involved in getting those to work. Heat & Power consumption issues just become much more real rather than if you have single card solution.




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So

i3-2100
1155 mobo with good vrms, & is p67/z68 for you to upgrade to i5-2500k down the line
4-8gb ddr3
a cheap but decent case, stick with antec, cooler master, and other known brands
PSU: PLEASE get a decent one. Reviews are plentiful online. Bad PSUs are plentiful everywhere also.
GPU: GTX 560 Ti/570 or 6950/6970.

@ The cusp of 7xxx series release you could wait... personal choice. Otherwise get a gtx 570 or 6950/6970.

1gb model of 6950/6970 if you're planning on staying @ 1080p resolution, aka NOT doing eyefinity. If you see yourself possibly buying 3 monitors down the line, get the 2gb model and perhaps you should revise the PSU to a 750-850w to do XFIRE/SLI since running 3x1080p monitors for eyefinity requires a healthy amount of horsepower to max everything out.

That was long, hope this was helpful.
December 23, 2011 9:43:36 AM

Wow, thanks very much for the exhausting answer, I'll read the links you gave me, and play with the config a little more :) 
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December 23, 2011 11:03:21 AM

+1 for stay away from AMD FX line (due to recent system builder marathon)
December 23, 2011 11:59:03 AM

For $125 the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 is a better gaming board than the P8Z68-V LX, however part of that is because the Extreme3 overclocks better. One advantage of the Extreme3, though, is that it offers x8/x8 SLI if you want to use two cards later. If you're not overclocking and you're not ever going to SLI then you can go pretty far into the low-budget boards without sacrificing performance. The MSI H67A-G43 is $88.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A 6850 seems like it should be pretty reasonable on your budget. I wouldn't downgrade from that.
December 23, 2011 12:29:52 PM

Oh, I would upgrade my HD 6850 to a 6870 or 6950, not downgrade it :) 

And I've looked at the ASRock Z68 Extreme3, but sadly it costs more in Hungary than the P8Z68-V LX... I don't know why...
December 23, 2011 8:46:08 PM

bendash said:
Oh, I would upgrade my HD 6850 to a 6870 or 6950, not downgrade it :) 

And I've looked at the ASRock Z68 Extreme3, but sadly it costs more in Hungary than the P8Z68-V LX... I don't know why...


GPU:
Do not upgrade a 6850 to a 6870. If you care to overclock, overclock.net is a very professional community, who can help you out if you want.
A 6850 runs games... as you see it now. It won't pump everything to ULTRA settings at MAX resolution but its still pretty good.

MOBO:

First off: VRMs.

Don't get that mobo if you're spending that kind of money, you can get a stronger VRM setup (more phases 4+2 or 6+2) and a heatsink on them. Look at the picture @ the newegg link: See the black things next to the square cubes? They have no heatsink on them! And there are not a lot of them. I count 6 phases, one is probably for memory, making this a 4+1 VRM setup which isn't bad but if you're spending this kind of money and you don't want your mobo to put a glass ceiling on your overclock, find one that has more phases, & a heatsink on them.


Look here: Same setup except heatsinked. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Here is an excellent example of a cheap mobo (Not for you though, it's an am3+) that is cheap but is SOLID all around.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
See how many phases it has: 8+2


Why VRMs so important to pay attention to? Read this again.
http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-mo...
If you want to overclock, then 4+1 VRMs are not usually the best. VRMs take the voltage from your PSU and turn it into power your CPU can use. The more you have, the less time each one has to be "ON". When you overclock later, like with an i5-2500k, you're increasing power usage by a significant amount. 1GHZ to 4.2ghz from 3.2ghz is 33% increase. Meaning more stress for the VRMs. Read the article if you want more information.

DISCLAIMER: Running @ Stock, all of this doesn't matter! As long it isn't a horrendous 2+1 setup which at that point facepalm-I-say-no-more.

If you read the link, major props to xd_1771 on overclock.net, you'll learn a lot and you'll find that ASUS & ASRock VRMs tend to be high quality, so if you do have a 4+1 they won't catch fire if they get overstressed but rather they'll throttle your CPU which is why some people when they overclock on 4+1 setups all of a sudden their system will drop CPU frequency for seemingly no reason during stress testing. So... they're good.

BUT
BOTTOMLINE: You can get a mobo with more phases&heatsinked @ the same price or maybe ~$10 more which is totally worth it if you're OC'ing in the future.



ASRocks are good because they provide lots of features, reliability (don't hear much about them failing), and mainly sell for good prices. If you don't have good prices, don't aim necessarily for ASRock. Gigabyte, Asus are also good.







Last suggestion.
Given you've picked the rest of your parts (CPU MOBO ETC), update us on the PSU you select before you buy it! I love PSU reviews.

& I actually suggest sticking with your 6850 for now, it won't be dated for a little while longer, after which THEN think about upgrading. By that time more price drops would have happened because of Tahiti & Keplar coming out (ATI NVIDIA new generation).
December 24, 2011 6:11:55 AM

Huh, ok, I've read the article, And I see what you mean. I'll probably go with the

ASUS P8H67-V

then, looks more reliable in terms of overclocking. I've also switched the RAM to a

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply" target="_blank">

And for now, I've stayed with the OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply
Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU:
OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">

Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">

Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?
December 24, 2011 6:21:30 AM

bendash said:
Huh, ok, I've read the article, And I see what you mean. I'll probably go with the

ASUS P8H67-V

then, looks more reliable in terms of overclocking. I've also switched the RAM to a

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply" target="_blank">

And for now, I've stayed with the OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply
Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU:
OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">

Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?" target="_blank">

Because I believe they should be good. All in all, I've the following components now:

PSU: OCZ ModXStream-Pro 500W (63 USD in Hungary)
MOBO: Asus P8H67-V (176 USD in Hungary)
Processor: Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (140 USD in Hungary)
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 (57 USD in Hungary)
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB (170 USD in Hungary)
OS Drive: OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SSD (105 USD in Hungary)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced (122 USD in Hungary)

By this time it's slowly getting out of my budget, and I'll still have to order these parts from the different shops in Hungary, because of course we don't have a shop like your newegg.com site where everything can be ordered, so I expect a minor delivery cost, too (around 10 USD). I even thought about just postponing this new system buy with a month or so (of course the configuration would be different then). Do you think prices will go down after Christmas/New Years?

You cannot overclock the CPU with the H67 chipset. And if you wanted to OC, I'd suggest picking a higher phase one... If you can list the website(s) you're shopping from, I'd poke around mobos with you.

From the pricing you put, here's what I'd do.

1. Change the mobo if you're going to go to i5-2500k within the next 5 years (need p67/z68! can't overclock on the budget chipsets) [FYI if you didn't know you can't OC the i3-2100 much at all but it should last you awhile)
2. Memory 8gb-->4gb, if you want to reduce bottlenecks for gaming in your computer your RAM has "wasted" money going there. Reduce RAM to 4gb since games don't max out RAM that much. That being said, if you do like huge photoshop or I have no idea what uses huge gobs of RAM other than games, then keep the 8gb kit.
3. Case: You're paying A LOT for a case. Personally, I'd get a cheaper case, flush the money into the GPU.
4. OS Drive: Maybe put this $105 into the graphics card so it can jump to the next tier up? Or keep it and get much improved OS loading times? It's arguable which one you want." target="_blank">

You cannot overclock the CPU with the H67 chipset. And if you wanted to OC, I'd suggest picking a higher phase one... If you can list the website(s) you're shopping from, I'd poke around mobos with you.

From the pricing you put, here's what I'd do.

1. Change the mobo if you're going to go to i5-2500k within the next 5 years (need p67/z68! can't overclock on the budget chipsets) [FYI if you didn't know you can't OC the i3-2100 much at all but it should last you awhile)
2. Memory 8gb-->4gb, if you want to reduce bottlenecks for gaming in your computer your RAM has "wasted" money going there. Reduce RAM to 4gb since games don't max out RAM that much. That being said, if you do like huge photoshop or I have no idea what uses huge gobs of RAM other than games, then keep the 8gb kit.
3. Case: You're paying A LOT for a case. Personally, I'd get a cheaper case, flush the money into the GPU.
4. OS Drive: Maybe put this $105 into the graphics card so it can jump to the next tier up? Or keep it and get much improved OS loading times? It's arguable which one you want.
" target="_blank"> 3. Case: You're paying A LOT for a case. Personally, I'd get a cheaper case, flush the money into the GPU.
4. OS Drive: Maybe put this $105 into the graphics card so it can jump to the next tier up? Or keep it and get much improved OS loading times? It's arguable which one you want." target="_blank">

You cannot overclock the CPU with the H67 chipset. And if you wanted to OC, I'd suggest picking a higher phase one... If you can list the website(s) you're shopping from, I'd poke around mobos with you.

From the pricing you put, here's what I'd do.

1. Change the mobo if you're going to go to i5-2500k within the next 5 years (need p67/z68! can't overclock on the budget chipsets) [FYI if you didn't know you can't OC the i3-2100 much at all but it should last you awhile)
2. Memory 8gb-->4gb, if you want to reduce bottlenecks for gaming in your computer your RAM has "wasted" money going there. Reduce RAM to 4gb since games don't max out RAM that much. That being said, if you do like huge photoshop or I have no idea what uses huge gobs of RAM other than games, then keep the 8gb kit.
3. Case: You're paying A LOT for a case. Personally, I'd get a cheaper case, flush the money into the GPU.
4. OS Drive: Maybe put this $105 into the graphics card so it can jump to the next tier up? Or keep it and get much improved OS loading times? It's arguable which one you want.
December 24, 2011 6:47:44 AM

Ok, I clearly misunderstood something. My apologies, it's still 9:30 in the morning here, and I'm still learning this stuff, so bare with me please...

So, I would say that within the next 5 years overclocking would be a serious possibility for me, hence: switching mobo - again. Here is a Hungarian website that I'm using now, you can take a look around for motherboards:

http://visualelektronic.com

The link will take you directly to the English google-translated Motherboards section. Prices are in Huf, so if you see e.g. 11.491, thats 11.491 HUF = ~48.7 USD.

Not the best site, has crappy navigation, because you cannot filter anything, just order by lowest price etc., but it's nearly the only one that has free shipping above 25.000 HUF (~106 USD), and it has the OCZ PSU too, which is surprisingly hard to find in Hungary.

Anyway, I very much appreciate the time you put into giving me these advices and trying to find the components, so a big thanks for your time and effort on this.

December 24, 2011 6:53:28 AM

As for the other notes:

- I would like to have an SSD for faster boots, and will probably replace the case, as it's really an expensive one. I'll replace the RAM with 2x2GB Corsair.
December 24, 2011 1:41:41 PM

Hmm, and what about this one for a mobo?

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3

As far as I can see, it has enough VRMs, and heatsink, too.
December 24, 2011 7:51:46 PM

bendash said:
Hmm, and what about this one for a mobo?

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3

As far as I can see, it has enough VRMs, and heatsink, too.



A little higher than you could go but this mobo will keep you future proof for quite some time. :D 

Highlights!
1
x8 x8 = SLI/XFire is a possibility compared to x16 x4 where your 2nd card will be gimped bandwidth-wise.
2
Has Dr. Debug: The savior I wish I had. When your computer doesn't post, this bad boy will tell you what component is weirding out. I can't tell if its my RAM or not sometimes...
3
VRM setup: Digi Power - not sure what this is, need to read up but supposedly marketing says digital > analog for the VRM's power delivery to your CPU. 8+2 setup and heatsinked, very niiiiice.
4
PCI 3.0 OH MY. Ready for graphics cards in the many years to come.
5
Gold caps are kinda gimmicky but you know these are solid caps. (Not that the ones that pretty much most people buy aren't solid dcaps... but its nice :) )


It's a little more expensive but this mobo is BUFF.

Just wondering, why are you trying really hard to stick to an OCZ psu? There's lots of other solid/inexpensive PSU lines out there :p 

And one more decision for PSU.

Honestly I don't think you'd want to deal with XFIRE/SLI possibilities when upgrade time comes, since midrange 6850's have microstuttering if you're affected by it, and it means your PSU needs to be more expensive.

http://visualelektronic.com/pc-tapegyseg/3412-neo-eco-5...

The antec neo eco 520c is better than the modxstream pro I think. Both are well rated but I'd trust antec over OCZ all things being equal. I'm just shopping and hitting lowest price and scooping around until I see something I recognize (which I think I know all the major decent PSUs ^^)
December 24, 2011 8:37:27 PM

Wow, another well-written response, thank you :) 

Honestly, I hoped that this P67 would do the trick, because I also thought that some features are nice to have in the future - e.g. the Dr.Debug, but that wasn't the main reason. PCI 3.0 and the 8+2 VRMs with heatsinks were :) 

And as for the PSU - No other reason other than the fact that it has good reviews, and I managed to find it in Hungary, because most of the PSUs here are not reviewed/cheap compared to the ModXStream Pro.

But, to my surprise, yes, this one is also on the site I gave you, and it's cheaper than the OCZ, so guess what - switched to Neo Eco 520c :) 

All in all, I think I now have everything - except for the SSD. I chose the Intel 320 Series 40 Gb because I've read a lot of reviews about it, some of them very technical, and they said that this is the most reliable on the market now, with very little chance of failure within 10 years, and the 5 years warranty sounded good, too. But, upon reading further, I've realized that it's not the best price/value, and also not the fastest - it's rather slow compard to others like Samsung or OCZ. So if you can advise a good SSD, that would be the last thing I need to build this new system, and then I will order the parts on Monday, and hopefully build it by the end of next week.

Thanks again for your help, I'm very much indebted to you for this.
December 24, 2011 9:46:21 PM

You're welcome :) 
Do you use steam?

Case wise
Looking at the website you linked me... I'm browsing from lowest to highest. Past $50 USD you're going to be "wasting" money IMO. There can be a HUGE difference in cooling capabilities at low prices however so picking is still crucial.
Here's the thing with my advise, grain of salt: The cases I'm recommending are bare minimums: You might want to upgrade in the future even though they work perfectly allright for a gaming PC.

Might need to grab a 120mm (140mm is better if it fits) fan or two for you to complete it since most cases at this price point don't come with 2 or more fans.


Fractal Design's Core 1000 has great build quality but it only supports mATX... & it IS indeed a top PSU mount... so probably not.

Checking out the Cooler Master Elite's since they keep popping up on the first few pages @ bottom of the $ totem pole... Everything looks like a so-so choice since top psu mounts and just meh.

EXCEPT: Elite 335. 430 is also good. I had the 430 before upgraded to my Fractal R3.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
*Thankgoodness for NewEgg's pictures! They are the best :) 

Nicer cases? The next one I might get is the Antec Three Hundred but that's @ 16482 ~ $70 which is money that could be going into your components.

SSDs...
I didn't know before I got my Vertex but 4k random reads/writes are what you want from an boot drive SSD, not sequential. Sequential is for your storage drive and loading files in the GBs like movies or what not.

You're gonna partially be on your own but what I do know is I hear that "synchronous" vs "asynchronous" is key difference in your question.

The bottom line is this: Pretty much any SSD that isn't terrible in 4k random reads/writes is going to be felt to be a drastic improvement. I speak from personal experience. I got a cheap Vertex 1 last November and it's GREAT. The difference between high end low end SSDs are not that great, just don't go for the 1st generation JUNK like jMicron or Kingston V series (different from the V+ series mind you). Past Indilinx 1st gen I think anything will do. Just find a cheap one, pull up a review to confirm its not terrible then put the rest of the money into your parts!

How I came to this conclusion: Personal experience +
Quote:
when we started hitting it with real world tests it quickly became apparent that the Agility 3 wasn’t much faster than last year’s Vertex 2. We were not happy with the performance, but the Agility 3 was also $100 less at the time than the Vertex 3, so there was still solid value in the offering.
~http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/07/nand_flash_fa...
+
But then again...
Quote:
The Agility 3 is a damn fast drive, but once you actually start storing data it slows at a much faster rate than the Vertex 3. We think this is a result of the async flash,
~http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4139/ocz_technology_ag...

Meaning... since your OS drive is mainly concerned with reads, writes aren't going to be piling up like hotcakes (like some intensive app... like photoshop???), this don't matter!


How much is that ASROCK board you linked? I can't find it on that website you linked me... And no doubt it's going to be more than $150 USD... D:

The cheapest one with heatsinked vrms and more than a 4+1 is this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://visualelektronic.com/alaplap/412-p67-pro3-rev-b3...

It only has 1 pci express slot but every other board in this price range uses x16 x4 which renders the second slot to accessories like PCI-E SSD's which you would not be getting since they cost as much as your entire computer...

This means SLI/XFIRE isn't an option down the line. No big deal IMO.


Questions:
1. Mobo decided? You picked a really nice one but I can't find it online. The one I would pick is --> no sli/xfire. no biggie.
2. SSD: Eh don't worry about what you learned. Not a worthwhile difference IMO to get a "better" SSD. Just find an inexpensive one, google reviews, make sure its not terrible.
3. Case: Elite 430, or 335. You need @ least 1 more 120mm/140mm fan, it should come with one.
December 25, 2011 7:45:30 AM

Steam? If you mean, http://store.steampowered.com/ then I don't :) 

Answers :) 

1. I think I'll stick with this mobo (ASROCK P67 Extreme4), because although it's fairly expensive, it's future-proof. I'm trying to buy from different places cost-wise, so wherever I find this mobo cheaply enough (with shipping) is where I'm gonna buy it. We have sites that collect the prices from computer webstores, and right now the cheapest that I could find is 160 USD including shipping, AND they have the mobo in stock, which is important to me because I want to build it before New Year's eve. But I have to look around a little more, maybe there's a better offer out there.

2. Ok, duly noted, I'll find a cheap one and stick with that.

3. Case: aaah, that's a tough one, because I'm developing a sort of platonic love with this CM 690 II Advanced :)  But I guess it's just not meant to be... I'll probably choose the 430, which I've seen before on reviews. By the way, the place where I'll be buying my HD 6850 and my RAM (which can be G.Skill, so I'll go with G.Skill DDR-3 4Gb /1600 KIT*(F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL)) is:

http://www.interevo.hu

And I'm sorry but I have to link it like this because if you translate it with google the links won't work, so you cannot navigate. Anyway, I would appreciate if you could check the cases here also, and maybe the SSDs, too.

SSDs

Cases

To sum it up: mobo is decided, SSD will be a cheap but fast one with good reviews, and case is the Elite 430 as for now.


December 25, 2011 10:00:55 AM

And what about this SSD?

Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA

Seems to have good rviews, and it's one of the recommended choices from Tom's Hardware's Best SSDs for November 2011. Looks like a winner to me.

As far as the price goes, it looks like I'm gonna have to up my costs a little bit to get everything I intended, but I've expected that.
December 26, 2011 6:19:53 AM

I heard good things, vague memory about Crucial M4 series.

I still would spend less $ on the mobo and more on the graphics card, I think that will bring you greater "futureproofing" because:

1. The 6850 would already bottleneck games that are not a few years old. You can't put them on the HIGHEST settings already with this card.

2. The ASRock mobo listed is great but only if you can put great hardware in it. Putting the money in your build here will bottleneck you earlier. Effectively denying the futureproofing you wanted since you're ... presently-not-proofed... UNLESS. You know you're going to have big $ for upgrade later, THEN you would want to get this mobo because you know nice juicy hardware will be coming soon in the next year to come.

Otherwise, in my opinion, you should drop that mobo and get one of those boards I linked earlier. I searched here
http://www.interevo.hu/termekek/Alaplap/Intel_rendszerh...

Couldn't find anything of great value. Most of those boards are excellent and that website chose the right stuff to import mostly but they're all $160USD+ which at this price point, does not make a good Performance/Price.

ASRock with an excellent VRM setup for OC'ing later.
http://visualelektronic.com/alaplap/412-p67-pro3-rev-b3...

@$127. If you decide to do so, that would be ~$60 more to go to your GPU.
December 26, 2011 6:35:58 AM

Merry Christmas, by the way :) 

Well, I would say that in the future further big bucks are likely to be spent on this new machine, so I would still stick with the mobo. Out of curiosity, what would you recommend for a GPU that would be better than the 6850 and would cost... let's say, $50-$60 more? :) 
December 26, 2011 6:51:44 AM

Using the United States as a reference point, and SALES as a even further reference point: http://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?forumchoice%5B%5D=9...

A 6850 can run now for as low as 100-120.

$200 you can grab a 560 Ti.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=291

So it's a a tier and a half jump upward. I think you'll have a pretty noticeable difference between the two...

Choice is yours for the money! At this point it's your discretion. Just keep in mind that buying a 6850 and upgrading later is like losing >$50 :( 
December 26, 2011 6:58:02 AM

Oh - looking at the benchmark results, it IS a noticable difference... And in terms of brand, which one would you prefer? Would it matter if it's an MSI or Gigabyte (or other)? Because I think I could grab a Gigabyte GV-N560UD-1GI or a MSI N560GTX-TI-TWIN for a reasonable price.
December 26, 2011 7:10:07 AM

MSI's Twin Frzr's coolers are well known to keep cards cool and @ pretty low sound levels.

However if it's about saving $10-$20 I'd choose the Gigabyte since I THINK I recall gigabyte's multifan models working quite well.
December 26, 2011 7:23:00 AM

Good enough for me. Ok then, it's settled! :) 

I'll spend some extra bucks now and get a 560 Ti (Either MSI or Gigabyte, whichever is cheaper/will check reviews) instead of the 6850.

It will cost me a bit more than I originally intended for it, but what the hell, it's my 25th birthday in January, so I can afford it once in a year :) 

Also, somehow - and I don't really understand why - I seem to be able to get the i3 2120 cheaper than the i3 2100!! What the heck...

Thanks again for the great advices and the review/website checks you've done for me, it's really helpful, and it's good to know that there are still people who are this kind and helpful in the world.

Starting tomorrow, I'll begin the mighty adventure of tracking down the various components for the cheapest price possible, and then hopefully at the end of this week, I'll have successfully assembled all the parts and have a brand new shiny system. :) 
December 26, 2011 7:54:26 AM

Looks good! Keep me updated. If you can I'd like to see pictures if it's possible :D 
December 26, 2011 7:57:55 AM

Ok, Will do. And just for the record, as it will be my birthday, I decided to buy the CM 690 II anyway - sorry, couldn't live without it, it's just so beautiful :) 
December 26, 2011 12:20:26 PM

Uh-oh, new plan: I'm buying most of the things from this site:

Lambda Computer

With google translate, even though the links work, the filters won't, so that's a link to the original site.

I've already added these into my basket:

1. ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
2. Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Box (the i3 2120 is not cheaper here, sadly)
3. Gigabyte GV-N560UD-1GI - GTX560 Ti 1GB
4. G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz 4GB RipJaws X Kit CL9 F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL
5. Crucial 2.5" m4 64GB CT064M4SSD2

And it seems that the place where I could have the CM 690 II Advanced and the Neo Eco 520c PSU is shipping waaay too slowly, so my case+PSU would probably only arrive the week after next week, and it's not good enough for me.

All in all, I think I should choose a case+PSU from this site, because then I could have everything ordered from here (and the free two-day shipping to my district also sounds good...). I have approx. $150-$170 (40,000 HUF) for the case and PSU.

Aside for my preference for the CM 690 II, what would you recommend?
December 26, 2011 4:19:46 PM

Casewise what kind of look do you like?

I think most people fall into one or two categories.

"Gamer" look.
Minimalistic look.

The former for you? I like the latter. Hence why I like the Fractal R3.

PSU I'm looking atm aswell
December 26, 2011 4:31:36 PM

Well, I really like the design of the CM 690 II with the mesh in the front, as well as the Fractal R3 with the its design, so I would say minimalistic. Also, it doesn't have to have a LED fan, but if it has, it shouldn't be red, I'd prefer blue.
December 26, 2011 4:32:33 PM

http://lambdacomputer.hu/termekek/reszletek/532_corsair...
@ $58 which is an ouch price.

http://lambdacomputer.hu/termekek/reszletek/6501_xfx_co...
@$82 which would get me a 800w PSU...

Ouch this website. Anyways, PSU wattage. I bet you feel scared when I recommend a 430 watt eh? If you do, please read the stickies here
http://www.overclock.net/f/31/power-supplies
Quote:
Well most *high end single GPU systems will only need a 500-550w unit. Most *high end dual GPU systems will need a 750-850w unit. Most *High End Triple & Quad GPU setups will be in the 1000-1500w category. 
Simple systems like an Athlon II x4 & HD5770 would run on a solid 400-450w PSU. 
There's no need to over buy in the PSU category as half the time you'll be wasting away that nice 80+ Badge by running a unit below 20% load at idle. 
*High End qualifies as: Core i7 920 @ 4.4Ghz, GTX 580 with high air overclocks, 2 HDD, 1 SSD, 1 ODD, 5 x 120mm fans.


1
PSU Review Database + Your own googling if it isn't on there already, is a must before you buy any PSU which can take down components with it, cause phantom problems which might cause you to replace RAM, GPU, etc...

Don't skimp on PSU. Don't buy unnecessarily high wattages either, in this case it'll cost you an arm and a leg!

2. Recommended PSUs. Not really your sticky since not as much is available abroad.

3. single rail v multi? eh. basically don't matter.

4. YES. LOOK AT THESE LAST TWO.
5.
Use psu calc to figure out what wattage you need. SLI/XFIRE? That dramatically increases the cost of your PSU and MOBO, which you already selected. So basically right now if you want to do SLI/XFire you should get a 750-850w unit which will be an even bigger dent in your wallet.

Again, I suggest stick with single GPUs. You just keep upgrading as time passes.
Fiddle around with PSUCalc courtesy of phaedrus2129 to get a sense of wattage you need. Then let's talk PSUs.
December 26, 2011 4:38:50 PM

bendash said:
Well, I really like the design of the CM 690 II with the mesh in the front, as well as the Fractal R3 with the its design, so I would say minimalistic. Also, it doesn't have to have a LED fan, but if it has, it shouldn't be red, I'd prefer blue.


http://lambdacomputer.hu/termekek/reszletek/9759_antec_...
@ $64 looks promising.

I think it'll be better than the Elite 430 @ $66.

My mindset right now, is get a case that's $50-60. Under 15650 Forints. More than that and in comparison to the United States, you're getting gouged for a case. However, that might just be me not being used to prices abroad. Let me know if you want to do otherwise,
I'd say in addition, poke around the Xigmatek cases, they look cheap and they look pretty average/decent.
December 26, 2011 5:02:12 PM

This case isn't bad, but still, just too angular for me. Looking at the other options on the site, somehow the CM 690 II seems to be the best option for me, if not money-wise... I'll squeeze the money out for it I think, despite the fact that as you've said, the price is crazy in comparison to newegg's... Recently, the prices went higher for everything in Hungary, and I'm still not used to this, but next year, the taxes will raise again, so I'd rather buy my dream case now than wait with it and pay more later...

I've used the eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite website to figure out how much wattage my new system's gonna eat, and it said around 400W; However, PSUCalc said it's 450 (475W if GPU is overclocked and overvolted, but I think it's not going to be the case); so I guess a 450W should be enough for me, considering a single GPU, and upgrading higher when necessary.

I'll look around on this Lambda Computer site based on your guide and PSUCalc's recommendations.
December 26, 2011 5:25:30 PM

I should probably also mention that if I ask the invoice to my friend's company name, he can write it off from his taxes, and give me back 20% of what I spend on this. So if it's around 230,000 HUF (~975 USD), I'll get 46,000 HUF (~195 USD) back. Which of course does not negate the fact that the case is a rip-off.

December 26, 2011 7:23:53 PM

Ok, I went through a couple of PSU reviews, and I have to say this website is a piece of *** in terms of good PSUs. Anyway, I think one of these might be good for me:

Enermax NAXN 80+ 450W (although I couldn't find a review)
Nexus RX-5000 (or Nexus RX-5300) (very silent, and seems to be good)
Be Quiet! Efficient Power 500W BQT F1
XFX Core Edition 80+ ProSeries 550W

What do you think?
December 26, 2011 9:08:58 PM

PSU: 450w sounds about right. You should factor in an i5-2500k rather than the i3 to make sure that it'll be fine. Overclock your i5-2500k on PSUCalc. PSUCalc > extreme power calculator IMO.

CM 690 II: How much is it? Since it's more money, I'll see if I can find anything that's just as sexy and if not, more functional for the same amount.

Enermax is known to be a pretty legit brand. Still unknown since no review opened to see what's inside.
Nexus looks meh. http://hardocp.com/article/2010/02/16/nexus_nx5000_r3_r...
Be Quiet: I've read one jonnyguru on one of their PSUs but not on the Efficient Power line of PSUs http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

XFX is a no brainer however, it'll be rock solid.

If you're getting a 550w PSU, might as well get a mobo with ONE PCI x16 slot.
December 27, 2011 6:23:05 AM

PSU: I agree with your choice of PSU. Enermax cannot be trusted enough, and although Nexus actually passed that test (I've rad it before, and they say in a paragraph that they go especially hard on PSUs, so if any of them passes their test, that should be good enough) - but still, it feels like a gamble.
Be Quiet is basically the same as enermax.

What's more, PSUCalc gave me 525W when I chose i5 with OC, so the XFX should be plenty enough for me.

I'm now looking for other P67 (or Z68) mobos on the site, but so far I couldn't find any good. Either it doesn't have heatsinks, or is not GEN3, which I guess would be important in the future.

Case: The CM 690 II has four different versions on this site. Out of that four, I wouldn't buy the two most expensive, so the RC-692-KKN3 is the Basic and the RC-692-KKN2 Advanced would remain, for 25.750 Forints (~110 USD) and 31.590 Forints (~135 USD) respectively.

And I would be fine with either version, so I guess the price can be 25,750 forints for that.
December 27, 2011 6:32:11 AM

PSU: sounds good.

About the mobo: Can you get this one I linked earlier? http://visualelektronic.com/alaplap/412-p67-pro3-rev-b3...
PCI 3 is not important, trust me. Future cards are not going to even come close to saturating the PCI 2.0 bandwidth. I don't know much else about PCI 3 but it's more of a nice thing to have.
December 27, 2011 6:48:37 AM

Yes, it's here, and has good reviews.

http://lambdacomputer.hu/termekek/reszletek/3859_asrock...

Apart from the GEN3, I would say it's ok, has two USB 3.0, more than enough USB 2.0, heatsinks, and all... and for just 25,000 HUF, which is 17,000 less than the P67 Extreme4 GEN3...

I see that I could also get the ASRock P67 Fatal1ty Performance, which would be 35,000 HUF (Still about 9,000 less than the Ext4 GEN3), however, I guess I wouldn't need that...
December 27, 2011 7:06:29 AM

Would you say that it's worth changing my GPU from a Gigabyte GV-N560UD-1GI to an Asus ENGTX560 TI DCII/2DI/1GD5?
December 27, 2011 7:12:55 AM

Asus's DCII cooler has gotten really good reviews. People love the card. It IS triple slot thick. Probably that helps it be good. Similarly... something like this
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc232/luciow/CIMG007...

Would be a decent idea... HAHA "STICKPOWER WIN"

This is the club where I got the picture from
http://www.overclock.net/t/1050119/asus-directcu-direct...

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Part 2: You caught me mid-post!
Supports Fatal1ty F-Stream, XFast USB, UEFI, Instant Boot, Instant Flash, Good Night LED, APP Charger, SmartView

Those are kind of minor functions. Functional difference between the boards? I could be wrong... I would assert that the boards are the same if $20 was on the line...
Not more haha


Seems like only difference is 3x PCI-E slots or 1x? Honestly, you gonna have to spend a lot of money for a multiple card setup. If you can't afford the best single card atm, why would you be able to afford SLI/XFire? xD

To me the lesser one seems like a winner, unless you like theming your case red and white with the fatality... A large # of people think fatality brand stuff is meh. So if it's more expensive no more features... then you're paying a little for the label. Similarly, it's not like he endorses stuff left and right... so... eh.

Anyways, theming, Pictures like this make me really want to... but its expensive!
http://www.overclock.net/image/id/929093/width/600/heig...
http://www.overclock.net/image/id/1083758/width/600/hei...

Club pictures from: http://www.overclock.net/t/838683/fractal-design-case-c...

December 27, 2011 7:29:44 AM

Okay, I guess I can upgrade to the ASUS GPU then... lol, StickPower :D 

Yeah, upon further reading, the Fatal1ty is not more than the cheaper ASROCK P67 Pro3, so I guess the ASROCK wins...

Ok, I think I can get these componenets:

- G.Skill DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1600 Kit (F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL, RipjawsX) F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL
- AsRock P67 Pro3, Intel P67, Skt. 1155, ATX P67 Pro3
- Crucial SSD 2,5 64GB M4 r:415MB/s w:95MB/s, MLC CT064M4SSD2
- INTEL Core i3 2120 - 3.3/3MB, S1155, BOX BX80623I32120
- ASUS GeForce ENGTX560 Ti DCII/2DI/1GD5 90-C1CQ90-L0UAY0YZ

For 155,000 Forints (660 USD),

and the CM 690 II Advanced + the XFX 550W PSU would be an additional 50,000 Forints (212 USD):

A Total of around 205,000 HUF, which (after the 20% I get back) will be 164,000 HUF (~700 USD) in the end. So, all in all, I wouldn't be spending much more than the initial amount I wanted. Cool :) 
December 27, 2011 7:43:56 AM

Sounds legit!
December 27, 2011 7:46:27 AM

Great, I'll start the ordering then :) 

Thanks very much again for your help on this, I'll post pictures once it's asembled :) 
December 27, 2011 12:57:44 PM

Just an update: I had to get a Corsair 500W CX Series instead of the XFX cause they were out of stock... :( 
December 27, 2011 6:35:11 PM

nvm
December 31, 2011 11:17:28 AM

It's done, and it's super fast compared to my previous system! Thanks again for the help on this one! Here are some pics.

Happy New Year,
Ben
December 31, 2011 6:07:38 PM

bendash said:
It's done, and it's super fast compared to my previous system! Thanks again for the help on this one! Here are some pics.

Happy New Year,
Ben


Legit! However, dat cable management!!! Haha, happy video gaming!
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