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December 23, 2011 11:59:40 AM

I have a 1000-1200€ budget for my PC. I intend to overclock. The purpose is gaming. I've come up with the following (I already have a monitor, network card, kb/m and OS I can use)

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-unlocked-s1155-sandy-bridge-quad-33ghz-hd3000-igp-850mhz-6mb-cache-95w-oem - 197€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-jet-black-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-150v - 45€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-psu-antec-true-power-new-750-modular-82-eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-quiet-fan-atx- - 95€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec-vsk-1000-black-mid-tower-case-w-o-psu - 40€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-seagate-st1000dl002-barracuda-lp-green-sata-3gb-s-5900rpm-32mb-cache-12ms-ncq - 99€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/60gb-ocz-agility-3-ssd-25-sata-6gb-s-sandforce-2281-read-525mb-s-write-475mb-s-80k- - 94€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8z68-v-lx-intel-z68-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx - 96€

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-evo-4-heat-pipes-direct-contact-with-120mm-quiet-fan-lga775-1155-1156-1366-am - 28€

Total - 697 euros + 20 euros shipping

As you can see, well under budget and no graphics card. I have yet to decide what to do regarding a graphics card. I won't be gaming (apart from fiddling around for a few hours when I get the new PC or on the odd weekend) until summer 2012, when I finish end of high school/secondary school exams (the ones that determine what college I get into), so I don't actually need a graphics card until then. Obviously cards will be alot cheaper by then. I have 3 questions...

1) How much will cards have dropped by summer 2012, compared to say January 2012? I'm thinking of getting one card now, such as a HD 6950, a 560 Ti or a 560 Ti 448, then getting another in the summer. But if prices would drop significantly in that time frame such that I could get 2x6970 or 2x7950 or 2x GTX 580 or something like that with the same budget, I would obviously wait and make do with integrated intel graphics. (My old PC broke down so I need a new PC either way). What should I do? Also, if I wait until summer 2012 I'll have some more money saved up so I could afford to spend maybe 500€ on 1 or 2 new cards.

2) In terms of overclocking. The Antec 100 case comes with a 120mm case fan, and I'm also getting the hyper 212 which is supposedly quite good. Will this be enough to get a decent overclock on the i5-2500k and whatever graphics card I get?

Finally, 3) Are all my parts compatible, decent quality, fairly futureproof etc.?

Many thanks in advance!

For people unfamiliar with euros/pounds (things are more expensive in europe and we can't simply use the dollar exchange rate, unfortunately) : I can get a HD 6950 for 200 pounds or 240 euros, if that gives you an idea of what things cost.

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December 23, 2011 12:29:09 PM

1.) With the release of new cards the previous model will drop in price, but no one really knows how much. Wait for a few months and look for the best bang-for-the-buck similar to what the HD 6870 is today (under $150 USD).

2.) It is best to add a front intake fan and have two exhaust fans on the rear / top (at a minimum) to promote front-to-back air flow. The one fan probably won't cut it...

3.) Good build overall. I would swap the memory out for modules without tall heat spreaders. Those tall Vengeance modules will cause minor clearance issues with the Hyper 212 Evo.
December 23, 2011 12:36:45 PM

Thanks for the advice. So I can use the fan that comes with the case, and then buy another two, correct?

I think my budget allows for more than 150$, my total budget is 1000-1200€ (1200-1500$). If I were to buy today I could get 2 x 560 ti sli but I can get better if I wait.
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December 23, 2011 12:42:53 PM

sdiff said:
Thanks for the advice. So I can use the fan that comes with the case, and then buy another two, correct?


That should be correct.
December 23, 2011 1:04:34 PM

Both Nvidia and Amd are releasing new lineups of GPU's withing the next few months, and from what has been shown on this site, at least the new AMD look promising, so if you can, wait and buy your new GPU when both lineups have been released
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December 23, 2011 1:08:15 PM

If ya only going to give one or the other, please supply component names so we don't get RSI clicking on a dozen different links to see what is in your build. If ya asking foir advice, if anyone needs to look at the link to tell ya about whether the 2500k is a good choice, I wouldn't be taking their advice :) 

-Drop the tall toothy RAM heatsinks whose only function is to "look cool" and interfere with ya CPU cooler
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-lp-cerulean-blue-pc3-12800-(1600)-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

-PSU sized fro SLI but MoBo can't do it
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8z68-v-gen3-intel-...(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx

-Getting 1 GFX card now and another in June is a sound idea.....the GTX 560 Ti factory OC'd would be the best choice in the >$200 segment.....6870 below $200

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI: (best buys in bold)

$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-gtx-560-ti-dire...

Above comes w/ Battlefield 3

New AMD cards will be released in janauary.....nVidia ones late April if reports hold.....I don't expect the "new and improved" non-reference cards to be out before June. personally, I don't like to buy "Revision A" hardware ..... the 1st stuff that hits the shelves...... remember the B1 P67 chips ..... those on the bleeding edge all wound up w/ funky SATA ports and hadda replace their MoBos.

PSU - This is cheaper, gets 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating and an extra 100 watts
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-psu-xfx-pro-series-...

Case - Id want something better with USB 3 port(s)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec-902-nine-hundred-t...
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-5...

HD - Green = low power = slow
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-samsung-hd103sj-spin...
December 23, 2011 2:10:48 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
If ya only going to give one or the other, please supply component names so we don't get RSI clicking on a dozen different links to see what is in your build. If ya asking foir advice, if anyone needs to look at the link to tell ya about whether the 2500k is a good choice, I wouldn't be taking their advice :) 

-Drop the tall toothy RAM heatsinks whose only function is to "look cool" and interfere with ya CPU cooler
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-lp-cerulean-blue-pc3-12800-(1600)-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-15v

-PSU sized fro SLI but MoBo can't do it
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8z68-v-gen3-intel-...(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx

-Getting 1 GFX card now and another in June is a sound idea.....the GTX 560 Ti factory OC'd would be the best choice in the >$200 segment.....6870 below $200

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI: (best buys in bold)

$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-asus-gtx-560-ti-dire...

Above comes w/ Battlefield 3

New AMD cards will be released in janauary.....nVidia ones late April if reports hold.....I don't expect the "new and improved" non-reference cards to be out before June. personally, I don't like to buy "Revision A" hardware ..... the 1st stuff that hits the shelves...... remember the B1 P67 chips ..... those on the bleeding edge all wound up w/ funky SATA ports and hadda replace their MoBos.

PSU - This is cheaper, gets 9.5 jonnyguru performance rating and an extra 100 watts
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-psu-xfx-pro-series-...

Case - Id want something better with USB 3 port(s)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec-902-nine-hundred-t...
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-carbide-series-5...

HD - Green = low power = slow
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-samsung-hd103sj-spin...

Thank you very much! I've decided to wait until summer to buy any graphics card. I presume with that case, which has a Total of 4 fans Preinstalled, as well as the hyper 212, I'm good to to get overclocking?
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December 23, 2011 2:28:03 PM

The Antec case is nice but hugely expensive.

Check out the price on you websites for my case, Lian Li PC-K59. It has excellent cooling (two front inbound, two top outbound, one rear outbound, and potentially two on the sides as well but those probably wont work with the Hyper 212).
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December 23, 2011 2:34:45 PM

Asus direct cuII cards look very nice, but msi twin frozr cards run cooler.
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