I own Phenom II (unlocked OC'd 960T) and a 4100. Now back when i got the 4100 it cost MORE than the Phenom yet even in basic tasks it feels clumsy. The phenom is better. The 4100 is palmed off to she who must be obeyed and soon as I can justify the cost its getting replaced and destroyed.
Honestly to make me think 4100 is value for money it would need to drop from £80 to £50 and even then I would struggle to recommend it.
At the top of the chain its even madder the 8150 Costs MORE than a 2500k
*edit to add* I still think Phenom II is a good budget choice
Yup to go with all the posts above I have a P2 1090T and I love it but FX was a letdown Mid level Intel will own it look at the fps the intel cpus get over the AMD chips the intel chips are better at stock than most amd chip overclocked hevily...bad few years for AMD and now with the GPU top end 50$ more and performing at or below 680 I just wonder what they are thinking?? Oh well LOL
Haha why does everyone hate the FX Series so much? Is everyone just Intel Fans? Because all i keep hearing is stay away from FX.
I've owned 1 Athlon Xp, 1 Athlon 64, 2 Sempron 64, 3 Athlon X2, 1 Athlon II X2, 2 Athlon II X4, 1 Phenom X4, 3 Phenom II X4, 1 Phenom II X6 and a single Core Duo. Clearly I'm an AMD fan and I say STAY AWAY FROM FX.
The FX 4100 @ 3.6Ghz is slower than a 3.2Ghz Phenom II 955, actually it struggles to compete with the 3.0Ghz Llano A8 3870. That 4.2Ghz sounds impressive on the 4170, but it's slower than the faster Phenom II processors. AMD increased the length of the pipeline requiring higher clock speeds to achieve the same performance, the cache has horrible latency and is slower than Phenom II despite having more, and your getting 4 integer cores paired with 2 FPU cores instead of 4 of each like in a Phenom II. In a way it's not a complete quad core, just as the FX 8150 isn't a complete 8 core.
the FX series will get better when the next gen comes out and keep getting better fast. The Phenom II x6 processors was the last in a very old and good series(also would not be getting any better) .
To think that AMD has totally replaced how the cpu works, a first step, its not that bad, very close or better some times then the Phenom II but it will get better as software uses more cores, and AMD will start to run.
Still if you are like me and waited for the fx series it was a let down, Due to the press hyping it up and fake benchmarks on-line. If you have a phenom II x6 and a gamer you have no need to upgrade.
Intel have the benchmarks with single core power, AMD have build a new multitasking cpu which if not for the hype and the cost would have been a good start to the series.