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Need help finishing this build for boxing day - Not sure what to get

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December 25, 2011 6:56:10 AM

Hi everyone on Tom's I looking for some serious help.

Last year I built an amazing computer thanks to good people on Tom's who helped me select out the parts and components.
The computer works great and I am very happy with it.

Here is the build that everyone helped me with:

CASE - Cooler Master HAF X Full Tower Gaming Case
HEATSINK - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Pluse 4 Heat Pipes
CPU - Intel i950 QUAD CORE
HDD - 2x Wester Digital Caviar Black 1000 GB (1 TB) - Currently in RAID 0 setup
Graphics Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 460 768 MB (768-P3-1360-TR)
PSU - Corsair HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX EPS12V Power Supply
MOBO - Asus P6X58D-E Socket 1366
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800 6GB (3x2GB) Tripple Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM)
CD-DVD BURNER - SONY AD-7260S-OB- BLACK SATA DVD Writer 24x DVD-/+R 48x CD-R
OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OEM

During boxing day last year I picked up an extra intel i7 i950 CPU with plans to build another system if my first computer worked out. However due to family, work and other factors I didn't have much time to build the second computer. Now I have time I would like some help to finish the second computer.

I mainly buy locally from my local computer store at www.canadacomputers.com as its close in the city and would like to keep it that way with reference parts in mind.

I filled out the standard form and I am hoping to get some help to finish off this second long awaited system.


Approximate Purchase Date: Boxing Day

Budget Range: $1000.00

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:

This is what I would like to do on this system

High End Graphic PC Gaming
Microsoft Word, Powerpoint, Access, Excel
Regular Email (Example: google, yahoo, etc)
Music Player
Computer Programming (Visual Basic, C++, Java, Perl, HTML/XHTML)
Games to be played on System: Counterstrike 1.5, Counterstrike Source, Bad Company 2 & 3, Diablo 3, Any high graphic end first person shooter game that comes out later in future. Would like to make certain that this system will be able to play any future games.
Would like Raid capability.


PARTS NOT REQUIRED:

1) Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366
2) HAF X Case
3) Keyboard
4) Mouse
5) Monitor

PARTS REQUIRED:

1) Motherboard (already have the Asus P6X58D-E Socket 1366 selected I just need to order it unless there is something better someone could suggest)
2) Hard Disk Drive
3) Solid State Drive
4) CD/DVD Burner Drive
5) RAM
6) Power Supply
7) Graphics Card
8) Operating System (OEM or should I get Full Retail Windows 7 Professional I don't know)
9) Heatsink


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.canadacomputers.com

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences:by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to use an AMD CPU & Biostar mobo with a 24" LCD and full tower case)

Overclocking: Yes would be nice to do this later on.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes would like to do this if price/performance is good.

Monitor Resolution: MONITOR RESOLUTION: Using a SyncMaster 931w with 2000:1 Dynamic contrast. Using windows XP Pro with the following settings at 1152 x 864. I am planning to upgrade this too on boxing day but again I will have do to some more research on monitors. Any can help pick me a monitor they see that is good and on sale at canadacomputers let me know.

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Parts already selected:

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo: Asus P6X58D-E Socket 1366 - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...


BOXING DAY FLYER:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/
http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingDay_2011/
http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingWeek_2011/

With boxing day coming up in 2 days I would like to try a Solid State Drive as the price for HDD have gone up. There are few on boxing day right now for sale at www.canadacomputers.com but I don't know if they are lemons that the store just wants to get rid of or if they are a good deal. Here are the one's I saw that I took interest in:

Corsair Force Series 3 120GB PART NUMBER: CSSD-F120GB3-BK - Regular Price $184.99////MAIL IN REBATE $30.00////$30.00 IN STORE DISCOUNT = $124.99

Direct link to the part: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
Boxing Day Sale Link: http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingDay_2011/

OCZ VERTEX 3 2.5" 120 GB SATA3 6GB/s SSD PART NUMBER: VTX3-25SAT3-120G - Regular Price $219.99////$30.00 MAIL IN REBATE////$40 IN STORE DICOUNT = $149.99

Direct link to the part: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
Boxing Day Sale Link: http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingWeek_2011/p2.php

I don't know if there is a better SSD I could buy from the store's listing here but if there is please let me know:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=15_179

Probably the biggest thing I need help with is selecting a graphics card as the store as so many for sale. Been trying to read reviews everywhere but not sure of myself what is good.

I am certain there are a lot of things I could do differently now since a year gone by and there are probably better prices on certain parts/components.

Any help as always is most appreciated.

December 25, 2011 8:36:23 AM

The original build is still pretty solid today.

Under $200 the best cards are probably a regular GTX 560 or a HD 6870.

It is hard to sort out which SSDs are the best types right now since the companies don't have a long track record making them. Everyone always says this brand is better than that one and then someone else says something that conflicts with it.

You really should probably just pick out one that makes sense and hope for the best. Sounds like the Corsair is pretty equal to the OCZ and cheaper so I would pick that one if it were me.

As a company, I prefer Corsair over OCZ in general, though, so I am kinda biased in that way.

Anyway, I would just get mostly the same stuff as before and make two systems that are pretty much clones of each other. That would be very nice if it ever became important to test for hardware problems.
December 25, 2011 1:00:22 PM

Raiddinn said:
The original build is still pretty solid today.

Under $200 the best cards are probably a regular GTX 560 or a HD 6870.

It is hard to sort out which SSDs are the best types right now since the companies don't have a long track record making them. Everyone always says this brand is better than that one and then someone else says something that conflicts with it.

You really should probably just pick out one that makes sense and hope for the best. Sounds like the Corsair is pretty equal to the OCZ and cheaper so I would pick that one if it were me.

As a company, I prefer Corsair over OCZ in general, though, so I am kinda biased in that way.

Anyway, I would just get mostly the same stuff as before and make two systems that are pretty much clones of each other. That would be very nice if it ever became important to test for hardware problems.


I do like Corsair too ^^

Well I have come to a few things I am considering.

1) I would really lover to buy 2x western digital caviar black's again (rather then a ssd) but the price is just too expensive $199.99 each. I payed $89.99 last year for each one ($189.98). For now I would like to try a ssd (if it gives a performance boost for gaming).

2) I was looking at this card as its on sale for boxing day:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...

Canada computer's has it in their flyer for sale on boxing day for $209.99 ($50 savings - $30 instant savings + $20 mail in rebate)

There appears to be 2 versions on the card which are the kr and ar.

This can be seen here on neweggg:

a) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
b) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Far as I can tell its the same card. The only difference I found while researching is that the AR= limited lifetime warranty, whereas with the KR it's 3 years.

I have no idea if this is a good card or if there is something better I should look at? Any suggestions?

3) Also I see that they have the Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100 on for sale on boxing day for $69.99 ($50.00 savings). Is it worth picking up or should I just stick with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Pluse 4 Heat Pipes heatsink instead as in the previous build ($28.00).

4) If I decide to do SLI/CrossFire in the future and also overclock my system is the PSU - Corsair HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX EPS12V Power Supply I used in my previous build good enough or should I get a 1000w power supply this time?
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December 25, 2011 9:49:52 PM

Anyone else able to provide a few other opinions here on what I have written. Really need the help.
December 25, 2011 10:33:52 PM

As for the SSD's.....pick the highest tier that fits ya needs.....I usually pout in Tier 3's unless budget allows for tier 1

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-price-ssd,3070...


For the GFX ....

For a $140 - 375ish budget, I'd buy a 6870

For a $215 - 230ish buddet, I'd buy a factory OC'd (900Mhz) 560 Ti's

For a $280 - 350ish budget, I'd buy twin 6870's

For a $430 - 460ish buddet, I'd buy twin factory OC'd (900Mhz) 560 Ti's


The card ya picked is slightly OC'd at 850 Mhz. This one is exact same price after same MIR and it's a 900Mhz model.....reviewed here:

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

I've installed 11 of em so far ....they all exceeded 1000Mhz OC's.

The Hyper 212 is a great budget heat sink.....I use them in $1000 budget systems..... for somewhat larger budget systems, I have been using the $50 Scythe Mugen 3 but next build I'm going to give the Hyper 612 PWM a try. At $1500 budget, I step up to the Thermalright Silver Arrow.

See them compared here:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Frankly I am not a fan of the H series coolers from Corsair due to the noise.....The Antec 620 was an easy choice over the H50 / H70 as it ran quieter than those two but the air coolers did a better job w/o the noise. I have a SB @ 4.6 GHz and the fans on the Silver Arrow never get above 400 rpm ... and that's w/ two cards SLI'd 25% over reference below them.

OS - OEM is fine

Optical w/ BR - DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.ca

No BR - DVD Writer - $ 21 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

RAM - - $ 67 - (3 x 4GB) Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 12GB (3 x 4GB) Model 999002
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

PSU - $ 100 - XFX Core Edition 850 PSU http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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December 26, 2011 5:39:52 AM

Anyone else able to give me some opinions or confirmaton on the build?

I got some people saying for the price that I could go with 6950 and that would easily out perform 560 ti.

But I have no clue on graphics cards and there are so many here http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?cPath=43_557

Anyone able to give me a few choices?

December 26, 2011 12:07:12 PM

If you want a 6950 then go for it. It is an excellent card.
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