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December 26, 2011 3:42:09 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: in next 2 weeks

Budget Range: 50,000Rs ($950 apporx.)

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming Internet surfing Editing videos Converting videos

Parts Not Required: Cabinet PSU

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: i dnt think there are sites like newegg or any other in india

Country: india

Parts Preferences: i thik i will built Intel this time

Overclocking: Yes /Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: i am really confused i have right now

Amd 945 3.0Ghz phenomIIX4
790Gx msi mobo
DDr3 Gskill ripjaw 1600Mhz
500W tagan PSU
5850 Saphire

and have another PC which is DDr1 base

so

i am thinking about to upgrade my phenom and replace phenom with DDr1

so

should i upgrade phemon or upgrade the old one and do some mod in phenom ?? :( 

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December 26, 2011 6:35:49 PM

You do sound pretty confused.

In any event, I will try to help straighten you out.

See how much it would cost you to build another computer completely new like this:

Intel i5 2500k
ASUS P8H61-M LX (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Crucial 2x 4GB DDR3 PC3-10600 • CL=9 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR3-1333 • 1.35V • 512Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT2KIT51264BD1339
ATI Radeon 6950
Regular hard drive of whatever size you want from Seagate or Western Digital

If you change your mind about the case and the PSU (which I would suggest, I think)
XFX Pro 650w Core PSU
Lian Li PC-K59 case
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December 27, 2011 12:53:44 AM

Raiddinn said:
You do sound pretty confused.

In any event, I will try to help straighten you out.

See how much it would cost you to build another computer completely new like this:

Intel i5 2500k
ASUS P8H61-M LX (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Crucial 2x 4GB DDR3 PC3-10600 • CL=9 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR3-1333 • 1.35V • 512Meg x 64 • • Part #: CT2KIT51264BD1339
ATI Radeon 6950
Regular hard drive of whatever size you want from Seagate or Western Digital

If you change your mind about the case and the PSU (which I would suggest, I think)
XFX Pro 650w Core PSU
Lian Li PC-K59 case



r u sure about 6950 is better than 5850?

about mobo and ram that will good for gaming and converting videos?
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December 27, 2011 1:05:51 AM

Yes, 6950 is WAY better than 5870.
Everything he listed is good for gaming.
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December 27, 2011 5:59:08 AM

The ATI naming scheme uses 4 numbers, the last of which is always zero.

The second number is the most important. This is the primary performance driving number. In a general sense, the higher the better with this figure.

In this case, you have 5850 and 6950. The second numbers are 8 (yours) and 9 (mine). If every other number was the same, like 5850 and 5950 then the 5950 would be the more high performance oriented card.

The next most important number is the 3rd number. Again, the higher the better.

Between a 6950 and a 6970, the 3rd number is higher and therefore the 6970 is likely to deliver higher performance than the 6950.

The first number describes what "generation" this card comes from. This impacts the card a great deal, but the effect on performance is generally less than the other two numbers.

In newer generations, different manufacturing processes can determine that the newer cards use less power to do the same things, or that the newer card can use DX 11 while the older card can't, and things like that.

I previously had a 4870 card and now I have a 6850. The new card has an equal second number and a slightly lower 3rd number which would generally mean it performs worse, but the card is two generations newer and the technology that changed in those two generations allowed my 6850 to still work 50% better than the old technology 4870.

On the other hand, if you had to choose between a 5450 and a 4870, the 4870 would generate a lot more heat and use a lot more power, but it would greatly outperform the 5450 in gaming. The change in the two generations wasn't great enough to make up for the drastically lower second number.

Generally speaking, you can only call a card a strict upgrade if all the numbers on the new card are equal or better than the old one.

4870 --> 5450 = not a strict upgrade
5450 --> 5950 = strict upgrade
4870 --> 6850 = not a strict upgrade
4870 --> 6990 = strict upgrade

5850 --> 6950 = strict upgrade
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December 27, 2011 10:43:32 AM

thanks for that info

i am also waanna ask that should i w8 for 7XXX searies or go for 6970\6950

should i overclock i52500K?
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December 27, 2011 12:33:17 PM

Ideally, everyone making a computer now could just put it off for 2 months to see the changes that will happen in the graphics industry, but that isn't realistic for a lot of people.

In January a 7970 ultra high end video card will be sold by ATI if rumors are true. There is no telling whether it is $ 1000 USD or what the price will be on it.

In any event, it will probably make a lot of older cards cheaper when it comes out. Even the GTX 580 should be dwarfed by it and should see a strong price reduction.

However, if you need stuff now you need stuff now. I can't know about your current needs.

My computer is working in good enough condition that I don't need to buy a computer between now and then, but maybe your situation isn't the same.

Decide for yourself about the video card stuff.

I think you should keep the 2500k non-OCd unless you have some good reason to OC it.
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December 27, 2011 1:25:36 PM

i just wanna overclock for performance

or stock performance will be good ?
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December 27, 2011 1:34:42 PM

You can OC to your heart's content, but this isn't the place to discuss it.

Here we want to get your builds functional and stable.

If you would like people to help you with OCing things, there is a special subsection of the board just for that. The people there know OCing better than the people here.

It is really just two separate skill sets.
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December 27, 2011 2:43:32 PM

thanks man i really appreciate you help
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December 27, 2011 2:54:38 PM

Maximus IV Extreme (B3)
SABERTOOTH P67(B3)
P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1)

which one is good?
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December 27, 2011 3:24:39 PM

They are all good motherboards.

The Maximus 4 is better with 2x video cards.

The Sabretooth, though, has UEFI BIOS, Asus EZ Flash2, and Crash Free Bios 3.

The P8P67 has those last two.

In general, the Maximus 4 sounds older but hugely well equipped in terms of ports and things while the Sabretooth and to a slightly lesser extent the P8P67 have newer good technologies built into them but less features in general.

You would probably be fine with any of them, tbh.

I would go with the Sabretooth if I had to pick.
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December 29, 2011 10:00:01 AM

i got another situation

P67
Z68
X79

which is good for me? :??: 
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December 29, 2011 10:29:38 AM

The x79 is something different entirely. If you want a 2500k then you probably don't want this board type.

As for the other 2, the technical differences are numerous, but generally speaking the P67 should probably be better for OCing and the Z68 is probably better for things that aren't OCing like video transcoding. That being said, the OCing also makes for better transcoding so its probably a wash.

I would go with P67 if I were you.
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December 29, 2011 1:55:08 PM

yes i am going 2500k
coz 2600k is much expensive and wastage of money for gaming that what some reviews said

2500k + sabertooth p67 + 120GBSSd + 6950/6970 + H100 corsair + confused in dual channel and qurald trippel we have corsair ram and OCz and gskill in india which ram should i buy?
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December 29, 2011 2:16:05 PM

Go here

http://support.asus.com/QVL.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=Sab...

and download the global version of the second thing. That is your motherboard's QVL.

Open it up and go down until you see the page that says

SABERTOOTH P67 Motherboard Qualified Vendors Lists (QVL)
DDR3 1866 MHz capability

at the top of it.

Look in the stores in your country and try to get 2 sets of 2x 2GB or one set of 4 x 2GB of something that is on that list. Prefer 1 pack of 4 x 2GB if it is available. Whatever you get, ensure that all 4 are the same part number.
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December 29, 2011 3:29:40 PM

we have 1600mhz ram in india (which are in that list)

dnt have above 2000mhz

if its not in list so its not supported??
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December 29, 2011 4:04:20 PM

If it isn't in the list, it hasn't been officially tested.

That means it might work and it might not work. Nobody at the motherboard maker's company ever tried it.

Your board supports up to 1866 with no OCing, which is why I suggested you get that if possible.
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December 30, 2011 11:58:38 AM

SSDs are new enough that there is no clear leader among the manufacturers.

That being said, I have heard a lot of people talking about Force 3 SSDs lately.

I have also heard that Crucial/Micron is doing very well in SSDs too.
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December 31, 2011 12:36:24 AM

Raiddinn said:
SSDs are new enough that there is no clear leader among the manufacturers.

That being said, I have heard a lot of people talking about Force 3 SSDs lately.

I have also heard that Crucial/Micron is doing very well in SSDs too.



http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/331333-31-mini

plz reply to this thread
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December 31, 2011 7:03:08 AM

I am not an expert with HTPCs.

If I was going to make an HTPC it would be a regular micro tower case I would just hide somewhere. I am not a fan of the tradeoffs that are involved with having an ITX PC at all.
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