I7 3770k vs i7 3930k

[Ultimate Gohan]

Hey guys,
Im building a new gaming pc for $4000-$4500 by next month and next month ivy bridge is coming out so i guys please tell me whether should i get i7 3770k or i7 3930k for gaming . And i dont want to upgrade my cpu for another 4 years so if i buy 3770k will it last that long.

Also when do u guys expect games to utilize more than 4 cores.

My build :
Intel i7 3770k or i7 3930k
Asus Maximus V or Asus Rampage iv extreme
HAF X cabinet
Corsair vengeance 16gb ram
Evga gtx 680 4gb sli
Corsair 1050 watts psu
Corsair H100 liquid cpu cooler
Lg bluray burner
Corsair Force GT 240gb SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2X1tb raid 0
Asus VG278H 3D 27" Monitor
1000 VA UPS

You can also tell your suggestions for my build, if u have any better parts in your mind.

Thanks in advance your info guys.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The HX series PSU's are great ..... except for the 1000 and 1050. With just an 8.5 performance rating, I'd be picking something else:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=245

With a TDP pf 195 watts added to the recommended 500 watt PSU for a single card, according to nVidia, a 750 watter will do just fine. Personally I'd use a 850 watter......either the Corsair HX850 or the Antec CP-850 both of which get 10.0 performance ratings ..... The CP-850 would be my choice for the better acoustic and thermal performance as well as bargain price but that would require a case change as the CP series only fits in 4 Antec cases. Not that that's a bad thing, having build with the HAF-X and the two Antec's below, I prefer the Antecs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087

If ya set on having the bigger 1000 watt PSU, the CP-1000 gets a 9.5 performance rating.

I don't see the draw of the H series coolers from Corsair (made by Asetek) . Yes, it beats the better air coolers by less than half of a degree but I'd need a lot more than that to compensate for the noise and risk of leaks.

I'd go for the Phanteks or Silver Arrow

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,11.html


Greta deal on this BR Burner ... $35 less than the LG after $20 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135252

The intent is stated to be a gaming PC but since RAID has no significant impact on gaming, I'd drop the twi 1TB Barracuda's for the beastly Barracuda XT's. I measured a 21.2 econd boot to windows desktop time using the smaller, slower 2TB model.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=708&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=10

SSD - Any reason ya didn't pick a tier 1 unit ? The tier 2 Force GT is about 10% slower.

Tier 1
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB, OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240 GB, Patriot WildFire 240 GB, Samsung 830 SSD 256 GB

The monitor rocks.

UPS is slightly undersized for the 1050 watt PSU you chose. A 1500 VA unit is the smallest I'd use. Also might find some good info in these:

http://www.dougv.com/2010/03/01/active-pfc-enabled-psus-are-not-compatable-with-most-low-end-ups/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-ups-battery-backup,7489.html

 

[ahnilated]

You do realize that you are talking about something that isn't even out yet and we have no concrete benchmarks.

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

The HX series PSU's are great ..... except for the 1000 and 1050. With just an 8.5 performance rating, I'd be picking something else:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=245

With a TDP pf 195 watts added to the recommended 500 watt PSU for a single card, according to nVidia, a 750 watter will do just fine. Personally I'd use a 850 watter......either the Corsair HX850 or the Antec CP-850 both of which get 10.0 performance ratings ..... The CP-850 would be my choice for the better acoustic and thermal performance as well as bargain price but that would require a case change as the CP series only fits in 4 Antec cases. Not that that's a bad thing, having build with the HAF-X and the two Antec's below, I prefer the Antecs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087

If ya set on having the bigger 1000 watt PSU, the CP-1000 gets a 9.5 performance rating.

I don't see the draw of the H series coolers from Corsair (made by Asetek) . Yes, it beats the better air coolers by less than half of a degree but I'd need a lot more than that to compensate for the noise and risk of leaks.

I'd go for the Phanteks or Silver Arrow

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,11.html


Greta deal on this BR Burner ... $35 less than the LG after $20 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135252

The intent is stated to be a gaming PC but since RAID has no significant impact on gaming, I'd drop the twi 1TB Barracuda's for the beastly Barracuda XT's. I measured a 21.2 econd boot to windows desktop time using the smaller, slower 2TB model.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=708&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=10

SSD - Any reason ya didn't pick a tier 1 unit ? The tier 2 Force GT is about 10% slower.

Tier 1
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB, OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240 GB, Patriot WildFire 240 GB, Samsung 830 SSD 256 GB

The monitor rocks.

UPS is slightly undersized for the 1050 watt PSU you chose. A 1500 VA unit is the smallest I'd use. Also might find some good info in these:

http://www.dougv.com/2010/03/01/active-pfc-enabled-psus-are-not-compatable-with-most-low-end-ups/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-ups-battery-backup,7489.html

Thanks for your suggestions i will consider it

 

[amuffin]

For gaming, get the i7-3770k. The extra 2 cores and four threads will screw with gaming performance. However, I don't see why you aren't getting the i5-2500k or i5-3570k when those will both outperform the 3770k and 3930k in gaming.

 

[guskline]

Wait until the 3770k is released. Until then we can only guess. With the $$$ you are putting into a new rig, I would wait. BTW, have you bought any of your hardware? With 2 680s in sli I would get 3 24 inch monitors and run NV surround. I'm running 3 24 inch monitors on one of my I5 2500k rigs with a single HD 6970 and it's fun. 680s in SLI would be a gaming dream.

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

Wait until the 3770k is released. Until then we can only guess. With the $$$ you are putting into a new rig, I would wait. BTW, have you bought any of your hardware? With 2 680s in sli I would get 3 24 inch monitors and run NV surround. I'm running 3 24 inch monitors on one of my I5 2500k rigs with a single HD 6970 and it's fun. 680s in SLI would be a gaming dream.

yeah i know that gtx 680 sli is overkill for 1080p but today's overkill will be tommorrow's bottleneck . Im nt telling that it will become bottleneck in future but when games on par with samaritan demo starts to show up i think 680 sli will be good

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

For gaming, get the i7-3770k. The extra 2 cores and four threads will screw with gaming performance. However, I don't see why you aren't getting the i5-2500k or i5-3570k when those will both outperform the 3770k and 3930k in gaming.

can u tell me clearly how extra 2 cores and 4 threads screw with gaming performance

 

[XmortisX]

Get the 3770k, you gain little to no benefits with 3930k. The extra cores/threads might actually hurt some game performance it is proven.

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

Get the 3770k, you gain little to no benefits with 3930k. The extra cores/threads might actually hurt some game performance it is proven.

ok, what if games started to use more than 4 cores in efficient manner dont u think i7 3770k will become bottleneck

 

[Uther39]

yeah i know that gtx 680 sli is overkill for 1080p but today's overkill will be tommorrow's bottleneck . Im nt telling that it will become bottleneck in future but when games on par with samaritan demo starts to show up i think 680 sli will be good

For that Wonga you should buy Dells 27" monitor 2560x1440 res, i have it and its amazing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260038
Oh and for a PSU i would go with this one, again i have it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207019

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

For that Wonga you should buy Dells 27" monitor 2560x1440 res, i have it and its amazing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260038
Oh and for a PSU i would go with this one, again i have it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207019

im getting corsair ax 1200 watts psu which costs same as the psu u showed.
Asus VG278H has better colour reproduction, 120hz which is better than 60hz, better dynamic contrast ratio, inbuilt speakers when compared to dell u2711 and also it has 3d .
Im 27'' screen its hard to note the difference between 1440p and 1080p

 

[Uther39]

Thats because the XFX is Platinum rated and has more than enough power for your PC or any other PC for that matter.

Your settling for inbuilt speakers on a $4500 gaming rig!

OH man!

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

Thats because the XFX is Platinum rated and has more than enough power for your PC or any other PC for that matter.

Your settling for inbuilt speakers on a $4500 gaming rig!

OH man!

Difference between platinum and gold rated psu is very minimal and u have only seen the inbuilt speakers feature i hav mentioned didnt u see other features i have mentioned about asus vg278h over dell u2711

u didnt answer my real question i hav asked dude

 

[Uther39]

Well your real question regarding the CPU is not answerable until its actually released.

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

Well your real question regarding the CPU is not answerable until its actually released.

actually benchmarks for i7 3770k has been released and it is 5-15% powerful than 2700k but im nt sure about whether i7 3770k will last longer . anyways thanks

 

[ahnilated]

actually benchmarks for i7 3770k has been released and it is 5-15% powerful than 2700k but im nt sure about whether i7 3770k will last longer . anyways thanks

I would wait to the processor is actually released and you can get real numbers not some development version that could change.

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

actually benchmarks for i7 3770k has been released and it is 5-15% powerful than 2700k but im nt sure about whether i7 3770k will last longer . anyways thanks

Any benchmarks that someone has shown for the 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processors are at best on an ES (Engineering Sample) or at worst completely made up. Due to NDA (Non-Disclosures Agreements) that anyone who received a test processor would have to have signed they are unable to talk about future processors until the NDA is lifted. None of the 3rd generation Intel Core processor has been released and until they are every benchmark is to be taken with a grain of sand.


Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

 

[Ultimate Gohan]

Any benchmarks that someone has shown for the 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processors are at best on an ES (Engineering Sample) or at worst completely made up. Due to NDA (Non-Disclosures Agreements) that anyone who received a test processor would have to have signed they are unable to talk about future processors until the NDA is lifted. None of the 3rd generation Intel Core processor has been released and until they are every benchmark is to be taken with a grain of sand.


Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

are there any huge improvements for i7 3770k when compared i7 2600k . Also what processor do u recommend me for gaming i7 3770k or i7 3930k i dont want to anyway upgrade my cpu for 3-4 years will i7 3770k lasts that long.
another thing is that when game developers start to use more than 4 cores efficiently on games will we see a huge performance gain between i7 3770k and i7 3930k

 

[Guest]

Definitely i7-3930K.

There are advantages of taking 3930K over 3770K:

1) 3930K has more cores and threads (6 cores, 12 threads) than 3770K (4 cores, 8 threads).
It will be more efficient for future gaming. Some people say that 3770K and 2600K have the same performance in games as 3930K does, and that is true, because they are comparing 2011 games in most cases that do not require more than 4 CPU cores. But there will be more advanced games that will take advantage of all 6 cores in future. 3770K will be pretty outdated in 2 years, while 3930K will be still kickin' ass with its 6 cores, 12 threads and good overclocking. My 3930K is running stable at 4.5GHz with ASUS auto overclock function. You can get it up to ~5.5GHz with manual overclocking.

2) LGA2011 socket/X79 chipset.
Why would you want to buy Z77 - the very first and most likely the weakest Ivy Bridge chipset? You won't be able to put Ivy Bridge-E on it if you will ever want to buy it. Ivy Bridge-E will be compatible with today's Intel X79 platform, and LGA2011 socket.

3930K is simply faster then 3770K and more future-proved for gaming. You can get 3770K and Z77 for $300 right now, and then upgrade in about 2 years or so, or you can invest $600 in 3930K and X79, that will last you 3-4 years easily.

And in most cases, when choosing a computer hardware, you can easily go by a higher model number to determine the better product:

285 GTX<460 GTX<580 GTX<680 GTX<690 GTX

2500K<2600K<2700K<3770K<3930K

 

[dedekind]

How do you get 3930k with x79 for $600? The cpu alone is $600, except on micro center ($500). Maybe you meant this.

Also, just a small remark to the OP: you recognize that gtx 680 SLI is completely overkill right now.. but then I wouldn't get them! In the future, when games are more demanding than now, gtx 680 SLI will be "good" but probably there will be much better choices. The industry advances way too fast. So you might as well save the money and upgrade later with the most high-end. In any case, if I don't misunderstand, I think a single GTX 690 performs better than two GTX 680 in SLI, consuming less power and avoiding all of the SLI hassles, for basically the same price.

 

[Guest]

How do you get 3930k with x79 for $600? The cpu alone is $600, except on micro center ($500). Maybe you meant this.

Also, just a small remark to the OP: you recognize that gtx 680 SLI is completely overkill right now.. but then I wouldn't get them! In the future, when games are more demanding than now, gtx 680 SLI will be "good" but probably there will be much better choices. The industry advances way too fast. So you might as well save the money and upgrade later with the most high-end. In any case, if I don't misunderstand, I think a single GTX 690 performs better than two GTX 680 in SLI, consuming less power and avoiding all of the SLI hassles, for basically the same price.

I meant just 3930K CPU for $600 and 3770K CPU for $300.

 

[Guest]

Hey guys,
Im building a new gaming pc for $4000-$4500 by next month and next month ivy bridge is coming out so i guys please tell me whether should i get i7 3770k or i7 3930k for gaming . And i dont want to upgrade my cpu for another 4 years so if i buy 3770k will it last that long.

Also when do u guys expect games to utilize more than 4 cores.

My build :
Intel i7 3770k or i7 3930k
Asus Maximus V or Asus Rampage iv extreme
HAF X cabinet
Corsair vengeance 16gb ram
Evga gtx 680 4gb sli
Corsair 1050 watts psu
Corsair H100 liquid cpu cooler
Lg bluray burner
Corsair Force GT 240gb SSD
Seagate Barracuda 2X1tb raid 0
Asus VG278H 3D 27" Monitor
1000 VA UPS

You can also tell your suggestions for my build, if u have any better parts in your mind.

Thanks in advance your info guys.

rosewill has great deal on 1kw psu for 100 dollarsand the evga card i would skip for asus or geforce the frimware on evga is so shitty on my 460 gtx i would never buy another one (fan cuts out while playing games bug with evga precision)

 

[darreng101]

Thanks for your suggestions i will consider it

At your budget you're looking for close to the best, but not at crazy prices.

For the psu I recommend the seasonic plat 1000w

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=264

At 9.7/10 there's not much room for improvement.