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$1000 first build tweaking

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December 28, 2011 11:31:04 PM

Here's what I've got picked out:

CPU: Intel i5 processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Radeon hd 6950 2gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Corsair Vengence 4GBx2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR3-Motherboard-G...

PSU: OCZ ZS Series 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Cooler master 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

wireless adaptor: $50

SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...

CPU: $220
GPU: $260
RAM: $45
PSU: $100
MOBO: $150
Case: $100
Adaptor: $50
SSD: $90
cooler: $20
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Total: $1035

I was wondering if the motherboard that I chose would be the best fit for this build. The asrock z68 is very similar and about $40 less on newegg. What is the advantage to getting the gigabyte version over the asrock version? I probably will be overclocking and I don't really plan on sli/crossfire if that helps.

Which wireless adaptor should I buy? Should I use usb or pci? I have a netgear router.

Do you know of a guide that will show me how to use the ssd as a boot drive, and do you think 60GB will be enough? I want to play swtor (~25GB), TF2 (~10GB), BF3 (not sure how big this is), plus the OS. Should I wait on buying it and get the 120GB SSD?


Thanks :D 

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December 29, 2011 1:24:38 AM

Your chosen motherboard is the kind you would use to hit around 5GHz overclocks on the CPU. To do that you would need a cooler like the Noctua nf-14D or whatever it's called, basically $60-100 coolers.

That cheap cooler will probably get you around 4.4GHz, a good 25 or 30 percent increase in clock rate. Spending an additional $40-80 will get you up to around 5GHz like I said, so around a 50% clock rate increase. That first $20 cooler bumps you up in speed about the same as those expensive coolers bump you up from the $20 cooler's maximum.

If you buy a cheaper PSU (you can spend half of your intended $100 and get the same wattage at a slightly lower efficiency, no big deal as far as I'm concerned), a cheaper motherboard, and a cheaper case then you can get substantially better graphics. Now that I'm talking about price I also think I should mention that your video card seems very expensive for a Radeon 6950... You could get two 6870s and have money to spare for about $300 and that will perform way better than a 6950 anyway.

Even if you can only save $50 (you can probably save almost triple that, but for the sake of argument) you could get two 6870s in crossfire and that would smoke even the GTX 580 which smokes the 6970 which is much better than the 6950... HUGE gains over your currently chosen graphics setup.

All of this is assuming you have a monitor capable of better than 1920x1080 because then even the 6950 is more than you need... A single 6870 will get huge FPS on that resolution and could manage in several games even at 2560x1600.

For wireless adaptors I prefer USB but PCI, USB, and PCIe should have the same performance if they are wireless n 300Mb/s or slower and pretty much all are and the same is true for routers.

A 60GB SSD probably won't be enough for BF3, TF2, SW:TOR, and Windows. If you don't have a monitor capable of resolutions higher than 1080p (as mentioned above this paragraph) and do the money saving suggestions mentioned above then you could probably afford a 256GB SSD instead of a 60GB one or even better get two 128GB SSDs and RAID 0 them.

If you do have a great monitor and want the dual 6870 graphics then you could get a single 128GB SSD anyway without increasing your budget.
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December 29, 2011 2:11:03 AM

ZALMAN CNPS12X 120mm Long Life Bearing High Performance Triple Fan CPU Cooler
$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR H70 Core High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either of these coolers would be good for overclocking the 2500k which is on sale right now at Newegg.

Either motherboard will let you overclock the cpu but you do want to consider that the cheaper the price the less features the motherboard has.

ASUS PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express 300/300Mbps Transfer/Receive Rate 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, WPA2-PSK, WPA-PSK, WPS support
$27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will get better wireless service from a pci-e card than a usb adaptor. There are more expensive adaptor cards so it will be up to you what you want to buy but the card is better.

You don't need a guide to show you how to use the SSD as the boot drive , you treat it just like any other hdd and a 120gb is better than a 60gb because you will fill the smaller one up quicker with all the windows updates and driver updates

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December 29, 2011 2:56:07 AM

inzone said:
ZALMAN CNPS12X 120mm Long Life Bearing High Performance Triple Fan CPU Cooler
$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR H70 Core High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either of these coolers would be good for overclocking the 2500k which is on sale right now at Newegg.

Either motherboard will let you overclock the cpu but you do want to consider that the cheaper the price the less features the motherboard has.

ASUS PCE-N15 Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI Express 300/300Mbps Transfer/Receive Rate 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, WPA2-PSK, WPA-PSK, WPS support
$27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will get better wireless service from a pci-e card than a usb adaptor. There are more expensive adaptor cards so it will be up to you what you want to buy but the card is better.

You don't need a guide to show you how to use the SSD as the boot drive , you treat it just like any other hdd and a 120gb is better than a 60gb because you will fill the smaller one up quicker with all the windows updates and driver updates


Like I said about the coolers, good ones are freaking expensive compared to coolers for moderate overclocks even though the expensive overclock is a similar leap in performance over the cheap overclock to the leap form the stock settings to the cheap overclock... Point is that price/performance suffers greatly as performance increases and gaming just doesn't see a goo difference between the two overclocks and the stock settings anyway so the cheap overclock is the best option for heavier workloads and the stock is best for gaming only workloads. The expensive overclock is more about bragging rights and more professional style software than gaming alone.

Unless you have a need for high bandwidth networking for some odd reason the USB adapters and PCIe and PCI adapters will works equally well in performance depending on your range from the wireless router and the obstacles between you and that router. If your computer is far away from the router or there is a significant amount of material (especially metal) between the computer and the router then a PCIe card might show advantages over USB and PCI if it is a good one. Last month I did a comparison of the best wireless adapters for the money on newegg.com and a PCIe adapter won over a USB adapter but a fairly large margin but this only matters if there is significant distance or obtruding material (still especially metals) between the wireless adapter and the router.

I doubt you have an internet connection that is bottlenecked by even 54Mb wireless G. Even if you did the USB adapters usually run at 300Mb receive and 150MB transmit, there is no way you have internet bottlenecked by that and if you did it wouldn't matter because no internet using game would need that much bandwidth anyway.

Unless you need 300Mb transmitting from the computer to the router it is unnecessary and an additional cost. USB adapters tend to be cheaper and smaller and are more easily removed if necessary.
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