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December 29, 2011 11:35:55 PM

Well after checking out some prices for the gaming computer i would like i sat down and did some research on buiding my own. I'm not that tech savvy but after alot of research i think i can handle it. Just posting for any advice on building and the components i chose.

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth P67 rev3.0
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k
CPU cooler: Intel RTS2011LC
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB)
Hard Drive: Intel 510 (Elm Crest) 120GB SSD
Video Card: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Fermi)
Opti Drive:Samsung SH B123L Blu-Ray/DVD/CD
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-FI 7.1
Case: Cool Master HAF 932 Advanced
PSU: PC Power + Cooling Silencer 910W

Main game atm is SWTOR and would love to max all settings

Any advice would be greatly appreciated
December 30, 2011 12:01:33 AM

Good choices and overall good build especially on the ssd, now I would definitely drop that dust magnet of a case and pick up a Silverstone Raven RV03 or FT02. These cases would only complement your reference design GTX 580, great cooling and pretty much dust free.

One other recommendation but not necessary would be to go for the Seasonic X850 PSU.
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December 30, 2011 12:19:14 AM

motherboard- I would go with a Z-68
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu- there is no need for the 2600k for gaming , save yourself some money and go with a 2500k it will overclock as good as the 2600k
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram- again with gaming there is no need to go with 16gb , 8gb will be enough.
Mushkin Enhanced Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model 997007
$59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sound card- there is no need for a sound card since the onboard sound is usually HD audio.

video card--you can't go wrong with a GTX 580 unless........ it's a better 580!
EVGA 03G-P3-1595-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Classified ULTRA 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$619.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With all the savings by choosing other components you could get this fanfastic video card from Evga.

I only see the Intel SSD listed for HDD I would hope you have another HDD in mind. So what do you think?
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December 30, 2011 12:57:04 AM

Thx redeemer for the info on the case...checking them out

Thx inzone for the suggestions am checking it out.

for HDD:
Seagate Barracuda St320005N1A1AS-RK 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
$210

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW080G3K5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$155

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...




very much like the idea of the 3GB card!

looking at your other component suggestions
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December 30, 2011 1:00:36 AM

Get this mobo. It's totally rigged out for gaming and it's Z68. Best mobo for under $200.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Maximus IV Gene-Z

The other dudes right, 2500K is more than enough for SWTOR so save the money for a better case like the HAF X or 500r.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 2500K (SALE PICK IT UP QUICK)

16GB is an overkill like the guy above me said and so is a sound card unless you want some better features or something.
I don't understand why you would need a 580 to run a MMO (unless you didn't tell us you played BF3). If you want the power of a 580, I would wait for the 7970 that's coming really soon (early January). It's faster and about $550 bucks. But if you're ONLY playing SWTOR, I would get a 560Ti (just to be future proof) because 580 is crazy for just an MMO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 560 Ti (448 Core)

An Intel water cooler? It's O.K. but H80 will do a much better job of keeping a OCed 2500K cooled (or 2600K).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - H80
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December 30, 2011 1:14:20 AM

right now my comp is the only thing holding me back from BF3 and Skyrim so i figured i'd go big on the RAM
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December 30, 2011 1:22:04 AM

RAM doesn't really matter for BF3 and Skyrim because right now, you really only need 4GB (8GB to be future proof). BF3 uses alot of VRAM on the GPU. Maybe get a video card with 1GB or 1.5GB of VRAM on your GPU. More memory sticks can decrease system performance because if you're OCing the RAM, one stick might not cooperate and or system goes down with that stick of RAM. It's also more power heavy.
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December 30, 2011 1:32:16 AM

alright cool thx for the info. like i said earlier i'm not too knowledgable about this stuff so any info is great
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December 30, 2011 3:59:35 AM

BF3 will require a GTX 580 to play at high settings and the 3gb of vram will certianly help , SWTOR is not as video card demanding but a demanding game nevertheless so you would be well off to still get the GTX 580. It seems like these newer games that are being released are focusing on the graphics card being the main component to play at high settings. I know that I didn't need 3gb of vram when I bought my 580's but I wanted to be able to be in a position to not have to get them because the newer games were going to need the extra vram.
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December 30, 2011 5:31:15 AM

I would only be running one monitor(1920x1080) so the 580 1.5GB would be lots card for me or should i just go 3.0G?
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December 30, 2011 5:38:25 AM

oh and any suggestions on the hard drive?
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December 30, 2011 5:43:28 AM

ugg and if i go 580 3.0GB then what about the 590
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December 30, 2011 5:57:31 AM

ok new build looks like this

Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV GeneZ Z68
CPU: Intel core i5 2500k
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X series 8GB (2x4GB)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB
Intel 320 Series 80GB SSD
Video Card: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (fermi)
Case: Antec 1200 ATX
PSU: PC power + Cooling Silencer MarkII 950W
Cooling: Corsair H80
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December 30, 2011 6:07:23 AM

ASUS Maximus IV GeneZ Z68 is a micro board so the sli or cf is a waste high end cards will suffocate and heat up. But if you are only running 1 580 it should be fine.
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December 30, 2011 11:01:39 AM

You can sli on the maximus as long as your cards are only two tiers thick and not three. if they are three like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
then the third space will cover the second slot. Two two tier cards will work fine if you have good ventilation in your case. You should not need to sli to achieve high settings with a 580 if you get a good gpu like evga for instance and you may be better off with only 1 card, although your wallet may be a little heavier..

Either way I would build with only 1 card and see if it satisfies your needs before I took a chance on wasting for a second one you may not need. If you do decide you need the second you can still get it.

Good choice with the maximus iv gene-z board. It is every bit as good as its big brother boards w/o the cost.

If you will be getting a hdd as well, there is no need for such a big ssd. You only need one big enough to hold your o.s. and applicable drivers for your system components and a little room left over. A 40-60 g would do nicely.

TheSRT feature on this board will,if you set it up right, use the ssd as a cache drive w\o even giving it a drive letter and your hdd will be recognised as your c dr. This allows the ssd to keep frequently accessed applications in the ready for quicker access,faster boot times and getting into your games quicker etc...

The advice you have recieved thus far has all been good,and it is true that you only need i5-2500k and 2x4g ram (prefer 1600mhz)

Before you build watch the video's here. how to build a computer parts 1 2 and 3
http://www.newegg.com/Store/Computer.aspx?name=Computer...
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December 30, 2011 11:36:25 AM

My SSD has 90G on it, and that's just OS and program files. I have other drives for movies and such. You don't want to have to get all fussy about micro-managing your drives. You want to be able to just let programs load where they want to, and you want your apps, saved games and game levels to load lickety-split from the SSD. Don't crowd yourself. Your first thought was right, the 120G 510. Steer clear of the 320---there are firmware nightmares associated with it. Google on "Intel 320 Series brick".

If you can afford a 590, get one. You will be glad you did. Many people (me) regret having skimped on their graphics card first build. Get the most card your wallet allows, but you're already in the above-minimum ballpark.

The i7 2600k is better than the i5 2500k, in some cases by quite a lot. Check out the article on guru3d.
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December 30, 2011 3:24:44 PM

^ Agree

Get the 120 gig SSD if you can. You want all your apps, and your games to be on your SDD, rather than your HDD.

I have a 120 SDD, and seeing how fast and smooth everything runs on my pc now, there's just no going back!

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December 30, 2011 4:13:42 PM

Guys , it doesn't matter where the info is for gaming the only difference is how quick it loads.If it is coming off of a saved configuration in your cache from the ssd then it will load quick wether the program is on your hdd or your ssd. once you are in the game it makes no diff.

I was only trying to save the guy some money by only using the ssd space he truely needs. I have the srt setup with a 60g ssd and my computer never mistakes where to load new games etc. they go on drive c(my hdd) right where they should. My computer boots from push button to log on screen in 18 seconds and when I open a game, instead of waiting for the progress bar at the bottom of the screen ,I just watch it zip to the right and load right up. If I blink, I will miss it. There is no real benefit to having a larger ssd unless you just have allot of money to spend and want to do away with hdd all together. Also whatever the size of any O.S. drive wether ssd or hdd, you want to be careful not to fill it completely up so as to save some room for cache etc. win7 and all updates uses less than 20g and putting a few other things like drivers will easily fit inside of 25 total and another 15 gigs to make sure you have room for cache is all you really need for ssd. All your programs being there as well won't matter if you use the SRT setup. It is not complicated.
I stress that once in the game there are no games that require that fast of a drive, so you will see no difference inside the game no matter what drive you have it on.
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December 30, 2011 5:23:11 PM

Just to be clear, rmiiirusty also speaks truth. Caching works. You can use a small SSD that way to great advantage.

You won't see the SSD in games very much no matter how you do it. The level load in Crysis Warhead doesn't feel much faster now that I have it on SSD, and it has zero effect on play.
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December 31, 2011 3:04:48 AM

ransomn said:
ok new build looks like this

Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV GeneZ Z68
CPU: Intel core i5 2500k
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X series 8GB (2x4GB)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB
Intel 320 Series 80GB SSD
Video Card: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (fermi) What no 3gb version? :pfff: 
Case: Antec 1200 ATX
PSU: PC power + Cooling Silencer MarkII 950W
Cooling: Corsair H80

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December 31, 2011 3:15:41 AM

yeah but for the extra $$$ i'll go with the 580 1.5 for now...save it now and in abit from what i've read there will be something else for less then $650-$700
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December 31, 2011 3:42:07 AM

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Same can't be said for games like L4D where owning a fast system really shines.

Fast loads = quick starts before other team loads in so you can cover half the map before they are even ready to spawn.
or = trolling/griefing by switching to the other team before anyone loads in or calling a vote before anyone in game has loaded in so it only counts your vote so auto win votes
or = switching teams at the beginning of a new round if someone wouldn't leave the team ur friend is on

etc lol.



Thanx, its nice when someone actually takes the time to understand the tech before they go criticising your advice. +1

Oops meant to reply to petrofsky but you are right to. However I don't understand what you mean "can't be said" because that is what we are saying. The caching will create fast load times. Even from within a game if you go to a website for a gaming session that url feeds to your cache and remembers it for faster future loads.
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December 31, 2011 6:23:11 PM

ransomn said:
yeah but for the extra $$$ i'll go with the 580 1.5 for now...save it now and in abit from what i've read there will be something else for less then $650-$700



Ok , well good luck with your build and I hope it meets your expectations and you get enjoyment out of building your own computer. :D 
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