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December 30, 2011 10:56:43 PM

Graphics Card- GTX 560
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board- ASRock 970 EXTREME4 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU- AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM- CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks,and please don't hate about the processor
And I will most likely be doing SLI in the future(Near Future)
No overclocking for me, that's for pros. :o 

ONCE AGAIN...THANKS.

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a b B Homebuilt system
December 31, 2011 3:43:33 AM

It looks compatible...however, be aware that the motherboard might not come with the correct BIOS version, and that you may need to flash your BIOS to support the FX-4100. This requires you to have an old AMD AM3 CPU.
Also, unless you REALLY like Nvidia, I would go with AMD gpu:
http://www.hwcompare.com/11005/geforce-gtx-560-vs-radeo...
I would go with AMD for 2 reasons:
1. it's cheaper
2. it performs better (Nvidia only starts to beat Radeon at 560Ti, and even then, they're neck to neck...however Radeon is cheaper)

So I would go with this card that is on par with the Nvidia gtx 560:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or, if you have more money ($20 more, same price after rebate), you can upgrade to this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I know you said not to hate on the CPU, but this is important: I would not SLI/CF the gfx card with the FX-4100...
with the FX-6100 there is a bottle neck with the Radeon gfx cards...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-overclock-crossf...

Since you're not going to overclock, I would get this CPU:
intel core i5 2400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would also get a different PSU:
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

600W is more than enough for your system, even with CF/SLI

I would also go with different, cheaper RAM...something like this Patriot memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or if you want to be uber geeky, then you can go full out with an AMD system and buy...AMD RAM (buy 2 sticks):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... :pt1cable: 
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December 31, 2011 9:54:48 AM

OK...you made me completely rethink the setup.


Graphics Card(s)-SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB-$164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board-BIOSTAR TH67+ LGA 1155 Intel H67-$104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU-Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz-$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W-$69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin-DDR3-$29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I might do Crossfire later on.
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December 31, 2011 9:57:41 AM

agiste101 said:
OK...you made me completely rethink the setup.


Graphics Card(s)-SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB-$164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board-BIOSTAR TH67+ LGA 1155 Intel H67-$104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU-Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz-$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W-$69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin-DDR3-$29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I might do Crossfire later on.


Looks better, I used to advice AMD for people like you that wanted a little gaming set-up for cheap, not it's best to go that £120 more and get something which will last for at least 4 years. AMD's can't do that like they used to.
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December 31, 2011 12:08:21 PM

majorgibly said:
Looks better, I used to advice AMD for people like you that wanted a little gaming set-up for cheap, not it's best to go that £120 more and get something which will last for at least 4 years. AMD's can't do that like they used to.


I don't have a clue what you just wrote there :??: 
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December 31, 2011 12:54:49 PM

agiste101 said:
I don't have a clue what you just wrote there :??: 


In fact neither do I. Must of been tired. Infact don't worry the build is fine! :na:  :na:  :na: 
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 31, 2011 1:59:57 PM

agiste101 said:
OK...you made me completely rethink the setup.


Graphics Card(s)-SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB-$164.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mother Board-BIOSTAR TH67+ LGA 1155 Intel H67-$104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU-Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz-$189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W-$69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin-DDR3-$29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I might do Crossfire later on.


Everything looks good except one thing...the motherboard.
1. It's from BIOSTAR...not saying it's a bad company, it's that I've always learned (from people at Tom's) that they aren't as reliable as ASUS, ASRock, or Gigabyte.
2. Yes, the motherboard supports CF...but I don't like the setup of the PCIe x16 slots...they're at x16 and x4. I would go with something that is either x16 and x8 or x8 and x8.

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December 31, 2011 9:30:56 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Everything looks good except one thing...the motherboard.
1. It's from BIOSTAR...not saying it's a bad company, it's that I've always learned (from people at Tom's) that they aren't as reliable as ASUS, ASRock, or Gigabyte.
2. Yes, the motherboard supports CF...but I don't like the setup of the PCIe x16 slots...they're at x16 and x4. I would go with something that is either x16 and x8 or x8 and x8.

I don't understand what "x16 and x4" and "x16 and x8" means.

What about this motherboard: ASUS P8H67-M LE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or Intel BOXDH67CLB3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the other one.



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a b B Homebuilt system
December 31, 2011 10:20:17 PM

agiste101 said:
I don't understand what "x16 and x4" and "x16 and x8" means.

What about this motherboard: ASUS P8H67-M LE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or Intel BOXDH67CLB3 LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the other one.


Both are good choices, although both also don't support CF/SLI. and by x8 and x8 means the speeds in which the computer can use the gfx card
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December 31, 2011 10:43:49 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Both are good choices, although both also don't support CF/SLI. and by x8 and x8 means the speeds in which the computer can use the gfx card

Can you suggest a good motherboard for $120(less will be preferred) and SLI compatible.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 31, 2011 10:53:50 PM

You can always go with the BIOSTAR motherboard, if it isn't working, you can always RMI it
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January 1, 2012 3:16:32 AM

r0aringdrag0n said:
You can always go with the BIOSTAR motherboard, if it isn't working, you can always RMI it

So that means that my second build is alright?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 3:22:32 AM

agiste101 said:
So that means that my second build is alright?

Yes, it's definitely going to work.
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January 1, 2012 9:04:29 AM

Can this setup run BF3, ARMA and Skyrim on high at least at 1440x900
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January 1, 2012 12:14:24 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
You can always go with the BIOSTAR motherboard, if it isn't working, you can always RMI it

Can you suggest a cheap good case.
And can I use this CPU instead AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Socket AM3 Six-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And this motherboard ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 2:59:31 PM

agiste101 said:
Can you suggest a cheap good case.
And can I use this CPU instead AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz Socket AM3 Six-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And this motherboard ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


There is one problem with that set-up:
The CPU has more cores, but each core isn't as good as a single core of the i3. Right now, games aren't programmed to use more than 4 cores, so 2 cores would be going to waste. As for the i3, it can hyperthread into running 4 threads, meaning that is simulates a 4 core CPU. If I were to go with an AMD CPU, I would go with this:
Phenom II x4 960T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and if you want to OC, then you can buy this HSF:
CM Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for good cases:
around $40: NZXT Gamma
http://www.amazon.com/GAMMA-Classic-Interior-Chassis-Bl...
This is a good case designed for gaming builds. It can support gfx cards that are around 10.5+" and is roomy enough for all components. The Hyper 212+ will fit, although it'll be a squeeze if you have a side fan. I have this case and I can fit my Radeon 6870 in it.

around $50:
Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Another case designed for gaming, it has 3 fans included and is about the same size the NZXT gamma.

around $60:
CM HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Another great case. It has 2 included 120mm fans. It was designed for high airflow for good cooling.

As for your gaming question:
I have an i5 2500k with a Radeon 6870. I am able to run battlefield 3 on High settings at 1920x1080 perfectly fine. You should be more than ready to run new releases at 1440x900. There will be minor FPS changes depending on the CPU (if you stick with the same gfx card) you get. The Phenom is probably going to get a few less frames than the i3.
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January 1, 2012 4:55:45 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
There is one problem with that set-up:
The CPU has more cores, but each core isn't as good as a single core of the i3. Right now, games aren't programmed to use more than 4 cores, so 2 cores would be going to waste. As for the i3, it can hyperthread into running 4 threads, meaning that is simulates a 4 core CPU. If I were to go with an AMD CPU, I would go with this:
Phenom II x4 960T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and if you want to OC, then you can buy this HSF:
CM Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for good cases:
around $40: NZXT Gamma
http://www.amazon.com/GAMMA-Classic-Interior-Chassis-Bl...
This is a good case designed for gaming builds. It can support gfx cards that are around 10.5+" and is roomy enough for all components. The Hyper 212+ will fit, although it'll be a squeeze if you have a side fan. I have this case and I can fit my Radeon 6870 in it.

around $50:
Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Another case designed for gaming, it has 3 fans included and is about the same size the NZXT gamma.

around $60:
CM HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Another great case. It has 2 included 120mm fans. It was designed for high airflow for good cooling.

As for your gaming question:
I have an i5 2500k with a Radeon 6870. I am able to run battlefield 3 on High settings at 1920x1080 perfectly fine. You should be more than ready to run new releases at 1440x900. There will be minor FPS changes depending on the CPU (if you stick with the same gfx card) you get. The Phenom is probably going to get a few less frames than the i3.

I was just checking the setup and I am now realizing that if I use the Zosma, I could have like $270 to spend on a video card (after I remove the 6870).
So can you suggest one for me.
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January 1, 2012 5:24:02 PM

What about this card :
HD 6950 @$269.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

GTX 560 2gb @$244.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Will it be bottlenecking?
Can I get better value?
Should I get a better processor instead?(although games are becoming more GPU intensive)

These are all questions that hope you guys answer.

And also is this processor any good: AMD fx-4100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 7:38:28 PM

agiste101 said:
What about this card :
HD 6950 @$269.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

GTX 560 2gb @$244.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Will it be bottlenecking?
Can I get better value?
Should I get a better processor instead?(although games are becoming more GPU intensive)

These are all questions that hope you guys answer.

And also is this processor any good: AMD fx-4100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fastest-graphics-ca...
the Radeon 6950 is better than the gtx 560. You can however, go with the gtx 560Ti (on par with the radeon 6950):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the CPU, the FX-4100 is a mediocre CPU. Software isn't optimized for that CPU so it might seem slow and also it might create a bottleneck in the system. I would recommend you go with Intel.
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January 1, 2012 7:50:02 PM

Like anyone making a system they think about it before they purchase.I have been doing that then I realized that rebates would be hassle for me (Since I don't live in the USA)so I decided to redo my system to work with my choice against rebates(they are out the option).So here are the new specs(well,with some of the older parts):

Processor- AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6 Ghz(3.8 Ghz Turbo) Socket AM3+
RAM/Memory-G Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB(2x2GB) 240 pin DDR3 1333(I didn't feel like getting the 8GB anymore)
Motherboard/MoBo-ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD(Picked It Because I Like To See The UEFI BIOS ;)  And It Apparently Supports SLI)
Graphics Card/GFX/Video Card-EVGA Superclocked GTX 560 2GB(It is cheaper,and since I plan to SLI later that is good(And I really like the "X" in the name,it makes it sound cooler)
PSU/Power Supply-SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V

CASE COMES IN LATER!!

LINKS:
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HAF 912 IS THE CASE

EDIT--> I DIDNT SEE R0ARINGDRAG0NS COMMENT ABOVE SINCE I WAS TYPING THIS(SORRY)
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 8:28:45 PM

Get the gtx 560Ti, it's cheaper and it's better
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January 1, 2012 8:35:43 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Get the gtx 560Ti, it's cheaper and it's better

But his one is 2GB!
The Ti is just 1GB
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January 1, 2012 8:53:17 PM





MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
$269.99

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$99.99

SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC ...
$69.99

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
$119.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBXL
$24.99

Subtotal: $584.95

Hoping that this is the final build.




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January 1, 2012 9:27:14 PM

OK so... I see many problems with your build (sorry, I don't mean to be a dick or anything, truly trying to help).

1. Don't go with any of the FX series Processors. AMD screwed up on the transistor count (how do you lose a billion transistors?...). Transistors are the part that data goes in and out of the CPU. More transistors=better. Smaller transisters ( **nm technology such as Intel's 32nm technology)=much MUCH better. Since your not overclocking anyways, go with the Intel Core i3 2100.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It uses 28nm technology opposed to AMD's 45nm technology. It's a GREAT processor, you will not be disappointed (trust me).

2. I agree with r0aringdrag0n. Get a gtx 560 ti. Here's a really good, already overclocked Zotac GTX 560 ti. I personally know Zotac products and they are great (it also comes with a free copy of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood :D  ).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Those video cards REALLY hit the sweet spot in terms of its performance/dollar ratio. Also, if you sli 2 of those some time in the future... it'll take BF3 on high-ultra with AA x4 at about 40-50ish fps.

3. In order to have a chance to sli in the future you need-
A Motherboard that supports sli.
A Motherboard that has AT LEAST 2 PCIe slots that can run at x8/x8.
You can't go wrong with a Gigabyte motherboard. They really are great.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. I don't recommend the HAF 912. I'm sorry but it's just not worth its money. You would be much, much better off with the Rosewill Challenger.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Rosewill is a part of Newegg so... You can't go wrong with it.

So... all in all you'd be paying-
$574.96 for the 4 items I mentioned.
$524.96 for the 4 items you mentioned

But... I'm telling you it's WELL worth the extra $50. If you aren't interested in SLI (but you should because as technology advances so will games and the need for more power from your graphics card(s) ) and save yourself those $50...

Everything else in your build is great. I like the PSU and am surprised at the price. SilverStone is a very good company. Also, that particular PSU is SLI certified which means it has the power connectors for an extra card. Another thing, 2gb in a video card compared with 1gb doesn't make THAT big of a difference. Just saying. If you need anything else or you have any other questions, just ask.
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EDIT: I meant to say 32nm technology in Problem #1. whoops.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 10:11:51 PM

I've been trying to push through a intel CPU...but it seems that he likes AMD better...This is still a good option though:
CPU: Intel i3 2100 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Challenger $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX Card: GTX 560Ti $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Around $570

It's more expensive that what you had but it's also going to perform better. The i3 is better than the FX-4100 while the ASRock motherboard will allow you to upgrade to either the i5 or i7 later on. It also supports SLI. The graphics card is the same as the one I recommended before. and also Neutral:
he wants a gfx card with 2GB of Mem
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January 1, 2012 10:25:48 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
I've been trying to push through a intel CPU...but it seems that he likes AMD better...This is still a good option though:
CPU: Intel i3 2100 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Challenger $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX Card: GTX 560Ti $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Around $570

It's more expensive that what you had but it's also going to perform better. The i3 is better than the FX-4100 while the ASRock motherboard will allow you to upgrade to either the i5 or i7 later on. It also supports SLI. The graphics card is the same as the one I recommended before. and also Neutral:
he wants a gfx card with 2GB of Mem

So from what the two of you said, the 2GB would just be a waste.So can you guys suggest one.Or is the radeon good enough.
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January 1, 2012 10:33:41 PM

So I checked some new specs based on the info and now there is an $80($90) difference and now I feel it's to cheap(well again...without the case)


Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32100
$124.99




ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$124.99




SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$164.99




G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBXL
$24.99




SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC ...
$69.99

Subtotal: $509.95

AND THANKS FOR THE HELP SO FAR.

And from what I read, you should just shove money for a better video card
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 10:42:07 PM

It's so cheap because you're missing the hard drive...anyways, you don't want a mad good graphics card with a mediocre CPU, that'll create a bottleneck in the system.
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January 1, 2012 10:45:20 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
It's so cheap because you're missing the hard drive...anyways, you don't want a mad good graphics card with a mediocre CPU, that'll create a bottleneck in the system.

I'm just reusing the drive from this pc so it doesnt matter.And I put the i5 you were talking about earlier.
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January 1, 2012 10:50:12 PM

Is this setup really supposed to perform better than the other one? since the only better thing is the CPU and (in a way)the motherboard
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 11:05:02 PM

Yes! The benchmarking scores show it. As a note, they don't have the FX-4100, so I'm comparing the i3 2100 to the 8 core FX-8150.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289

As you see, the Intel i3 is almost as good the 8 core FX CPU...it only loses points in multi-threaded operations, but since you're playing video games, it doesn't matter too much.
FX-8150 compared to the i5 2400:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=363

As you see, the FX-8150 is beaten by the i5 2400...which is kinda sad...anyways, I really doubt the FX-4100 can out perform its bigger brother the FX-8150
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January 1, 2012 11:13:14 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Yes! The benchmarking scores show it. As a note, they don't have the FX-4100, so I'm comparing the i3 2100 to the 8 core FX-8150.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289

As you see, the Intel i3 is almost as good the 8 core FX CPU...it only loses points in multi-threaded operations, but since you're playing video games, it doesn't matter too much.
FX-8150 compared to the i5 2400:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=363

As you see, the FX-8150 is beaten by the i5 2400...which is kinda sad...anyways, I really doubt the FX-4100 can out perform its bigger brother the FX-8150

But the last one had a much better GPU although the processor was not to good.The processor had to be real shitty to not be able to play a game of this gen maxed out.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 1, 2012 11:23:42 PM

wait...what?
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January 1, 2012 11:39:59 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
wait...what?

The setup with the better Video Card had a processor that wasnt as good ,but the FX 4100 cant be so bad

Simply put, I cant see how the i5 setup is better than the fx 4100 setup
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 2, 2012 12:34:29 AM

It's better performance wise. AMD didn't optimize the CPU, nor are programs optimized for the FX series CPUs, that's why they aren't as good. However, the i3 has proven to be a great CPU while the FX-4100 has had some troubles.
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January 2, 2012 12:46:30 AM

r0aringdrag0n said:
It's better performance wise. AMD didn't optimize the CPU, nor are programs optimized for the FX series CPUs, that's why they aren't as good. However, the i3 has proven to be a great CPU while the FX-4100 has had some troubles.

So does that mean that the i5 and the radeon 6870 will beat the fx 4100 and gtx 560 ti 2gb performance wise in games like bf3 skyrim and arma 2
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 2, 2012 1:03:10 AM

You won't see too much of a FPS increase (probably 10 at most) but you will see intel stand out once it's older in age. The intel will probably last a little bit longer than the AMD system
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January 2, 2012 10:06:55 AM

r0aringdrag0n said:
You won't see too much of a FPS increase (probably 10 at most) but you will see intel stand out once it's older in age. The intel will probably last a little bit longer than the AMD system

Ok...so I went the Intel way, these are the current specifications:

XFX HD-687X-CNFC Radeon HD 6870 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TOTAL-$569.95(Well in USD that is)

Will the AMD Entertainment memory thing work as good as the G.Skill,because if it does I will just get that and shove the rest of the money into your wonderful Intel processors.
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January 2, 2012 4:32:08 PM

You seem hell bent on getting 2GB of memory for your graphics card...You really don't need that extra memory unless you play games in 3D, and I really wouldn't recommend it at your level. You're way better off getting a GTX560Ti
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January 2, 2012 4:34:44 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
You seem hell bent on getting 2GB of memory for your graphics card...You really don't need that extra memory unless you play games in 3D, and I really wouldn't recommend it at your level. You're way better off getting a GTX560Ti

The only reason for the 2Gb is that DICE said that to run BF3 on Ultra, you at least need a 1.5 Gb(Or something similar) card.
So I assumed that that amount of memory for a card would be good but apparently(from what you are saying) it isn't worth it
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January 2, 2012 5:05:00 PM

Check these out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benc...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
remember that the order of graphics card strength is this (lowest to highest):
Radeon 6870 -> GTX560Ti -> Radeon 6950/GTX570

I would go with the 560Ti for better framerates, chances are the 6870 2GB would have lower FPS than a 560Ti 1GB
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January 2, 2012 8:05:17 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Check these out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benc...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
remember that the order of graphics card strength is this (lowest to highest):
Radeon 6870 -> GTX560Ti -> Radeon 6950/GTX570

I would go with the 560Ti for better framerates, chances are the 6870 2GB would have lower FPS than a 560Ti 1GB


One question:
This? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Radeon HD 6950

OR

This?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Radeon HD 6870


And also,dont you think that 6870 would be the better option since it is cheaper and I will most definitely Crossfire in the future?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 2, 2012 8:17:00 PM

The 6950 is definitely going to get you higher frames per second than the 6870 even though the 6870 is 2GB...although I'm still recommending this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you really believe that you should go with the 6870, do it. However, I believe that the 560Ti is better and that you'll be able to SLI it later...it costs the same as the 6870 2GB
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January 2, 2012 8:24:36 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
The 6950 is definitely going to get you higher frames per second than the 6870 even though the 6870 is 2GB...although I'm still recommending this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you really believe that you should go with the 6870, do it. However, I believe that the 560Ti is better and that you'll be able to SLI it later...it costs the same as the 6870 2GB

Ok...because you are so convincing, I'll go with the GTX 560ti
So other than that, is the setup good?
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 2, 2012 8:36:23 PM

Yep, you're all good to go!
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January 2, 2012 8:42:59 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Yep, you're all good to go!

Since you gave so many comments that helped me, it's tough to pick the best one so i'll just pick the first one as the best answer.
Thanks!
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January 2, 2012 8:43:24 PM

Best answer selected by agiste101.
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