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November 4, 2011 12:30:54 AM

Hey peeps

So this post is about a dilemma im having about video cards.
I currently own a EVGA GTX 560 Ti 2GB

Q1 : I know that the upcoming GTX 680 will last me longer, if I buy it next year, BUT will any these an SLI config help me get better FPS rates? Is SLI performance that good?
Im seeing GTX 400 series video cards in SLI, destroying my single GTX 560 Ti. Im very disappointed. What can I do to outperform the upcoming GTX 600 viceo cards?? Will a 560 SLI be enough?

Q2 : What would be the best choice for me? Which would give me the highest FPS rates? And which will be the most wise choice.

1. EVGA GTX 560 Ti 2GB SLI
2. Radeon HD 6950 2GB CF

I have enough power to run SLI and my res. is 1920x1080 on a 24 inch monitor :) 

More about : 560ti sli gtx 600 series 560ti sli 6950 sli

a c 1415 U Graphics card
November 4, 2011 12:37:10 AM

GTX560Ti in SLI and HD6950 in Crossfire both perform better than the GTX580! Nobody nows the performance of the next generation so it is speculation to say where the stand against that!
Choosing between option 1 or 2 is based on what games you play they are similar in performance with the edge towards the HD6950!
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November 4, 2011 12:45:52 AM

Well I guess it's up to you and your budget what you want to do . you can get another GTX 560Ti 2gb and have the two in sli or if you want the 6950 you will have to get two to do crossfire and you won't be able to use the 560. What would be the best and the less expensive option for you right now would be to get another 560 and run them in SLI. Then you can wait for the 700 series to upgrade.

In most cases two cards are going to outperform one card.
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November 4, 2011 12:46:19 AM

@ rolli59
Thanks a lot.
I understand, that the future cards are really a mystery. But can we not see a pattern in the cards? The 285 cards beat the 460s. And the 480 cards beat the 560s. Wouldn't a 680 beat SLI 560s AND be better for the future?
But that is a blunt question lool
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November 4, 2011 12:46:47 AM

Also guys,
I am willing to OC my GTX 560 Ti. Will an OC help me outperform the 6950 ? and what is the max OC on this EVGA gtx 560 Ti 2GB, does anyone know?
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November 4, 2011 12:51:13 AM

Speculating on next-gen video cards? Bulldozer was rampant with speculation too!
I don't see people rushing to dump their I2500K's
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November 4, 2011 12:54:46 AM

The core clock on your card right now at stock is 822 mhz right? With the Evga precision or MSI's afterburner you can overclock your card to somewhere between 900 mhz and 950 mhz. As with any overclock there is no accurate mhz that every card can achieve there are a lot of different variables involved , so you have to see where your card comes in at , that's why I said a range for your overclock.
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November 4, 2011 12:56:29 AM

If you already own a GTX 560 Ti and are looking for more performance then get another one and forget the GTX 600 series.

2X GTX 560 Ti's will be able to handle any games you throw at it, especially at your resolution. It won't even matter if the GTX 680 performs just as well or better than 2X GTX 560 Ti's because those two cards will be able to rake in 60 frames in every game.
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November 4, 2011 1:04:38 AM

inzone said:
The core clock on your card right now at stock is 822 mhz right? With the Evga precision or MSI's afterburner you can overclock your card to somewhere between 900 mhz and 950 mhz.


Yea I've heard. But will this OC outperform a 6950 at its reference core clock of 800 Mhz?
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November 4, 2011 1:04:42 AM

SwaggaLike said:
@ rolli59
Thanks a lot.
I understand, that the future cards are really a mystery. But can we not see a pattern in the cards? The 285 cards beat the 460s. And the 480 cards beat the 560s. Wouldn't a 680 beat SLI 560s AND be better for the future?
But that is a blunt question lool

GTX285 high end of its generation, so was 480 and is 580.
2 x 560 will beat a 480 if you add the Ti moniker then it will beat the GTX580 and might even beat the GTX680 when released! If you want to play with the best then you will at minimum have to upgrade the GPU every other generation or at least with in 2 years preferably every year!
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November 4, 2011 1:06:09 AM

Warmacblu said:
It won't even matter if the GTX 680 performs just as well or better than 2X GTX 560 Ti's because those two cards will be able to rake in 60 frames in every game.


Greaat! Thanks a lot! just what I was looking for.
SO in higher FPS terms, 560 SLI > 680?
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November 4, 2011 1:08:49 AM

rolli59 said:
it will beat the GTX580 and might even beat the GTX680 when released!

Thanks a lot, great!

Again, lol, will SLI 560 Ti WITH an OC, outperform Crossfire 6950 with no OC?
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November 4, 2011 1:09:11 AM

SwaggaLike said:
Greaat! Thanks a lot! just what I was looking for.
SO in higher FPS terms, 560 SLI > 680?


Whoa whoa, I didn't say that. What I meant was that 2 GTX 560 Ti's will be able to max pretty much anything you throw at it. For example, lets say a GTX 680 can achieve 180 frames in Battlefield Bad Company 2 and 2 GTX 560 Ti's can achieve 130 frames in the same game. It won't really matter to you if the GTX 680 performs better because your two cards will be good enough, hitting the 60 frames per second goal.
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November 4, 2011 1:13:22 AM

SwaggaLike said:
Thanks a lot, great!

Again, lol, will SLI 560 Ti WITH an OC, outperform Crossfire 6950 with no OC?

OC will give the 560Ti the performance edge over std HD6950!
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November 4, 2011 1:16:39 AM

Warmacblu said:
Whoa whoa, I didn't say that.

Lol yes I do understand what you meant, sorry ahah! THanks :p 
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November 4, 2011 1:17:17 AM

rolli59 said:
OC will give the 560Ti the performance edge over std HD6950!

Awesome.
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November 4, 2011 1:33:24 AM

SwaggaLike said:
@ rolli59
Thanks a lot.
I understand, that the future cards are really a mystery. But can we not see a pattern in the cards? The 285 cards beat the 460s. And the 480 cards beat the 560s. Wouldn't a 680 beat SLI 560s AND be better for the future?
But that is a blunt question lool


Logic is backwards - if 285>460, and 480>560 then 580>660 (not 680>560). Also, if SLI 400 series will beat your 560, then SLI 500 series should beat the 660.

Just sayin...
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November 4, 2011 1:39:38 AM

^I agree. I believe the GTX 670 and 680 will be faster than the GTX 580; the GTX 680 performing at a similar level to the GTX 590.
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November 6, 2011 12:58:23 AM

inanition02 said:
SLI 500 series should beat the 660.

Thanks that's what I was looking for
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November 6, 2011 1:55:31 PM

u can unlock 6950s to 6970s
i.e. your 6950s will work like a 6970s
that can seriously outperform a 580 and roughly 590 and 6990.
also in crossfire u will have 2 gb ram (please correct if i am wrong).
thats enough to handle any game with 2560x1600 with full aa.(but yr reso is 1080p)
u dont need anything more for 2-3 years if u can sacrifice aa(not post).
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November 6, 2011 2:11:00 PM

helpy said:
u can unlock 6950s to 6970s
i.e. your 6950s will work like a 6970s
that can seriously outperform a 580 and roughly 590 and 6990.
also in crossfire u will have 2 gb ram (please correct if i am wrong).
thats enough to handle any game with 2560x1600 with full aa.(but yr reso is 1080p)
u dont need anything more for 2-3 years if u can sacrifice aa(not post).


You can't always unlock 6950s - all of the early ones unlocked because it was faster for board makers to just take the 6970s and disable some cores to fill the more attractive price points, but they've now been actually producing chips with fewer shaders. Also, some cards just won't do the bios update that's required. It's the same mixed bag as unlocking extra cores on Phenom/Athlon x3s, sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. But even worse odds at this point.

And in crossfire you would have 2GB between the cards - but that's on the same as 2GB on one card when it comes to texture loading. You can't load the large textures between the cards in that manner.
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November 8, 2011 12:23:14 AM

not sure about that. if i'm not mistaken the second batch of Gigabyte's GTX560 Ti SOC only have 950mhz on the core. maybe they really did drop the core frequency since it might be quite hard to guarantee every card with 1Ghz will operate normally
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November 8, 2011 12:33:33 AM

renz496 said:
not sure about that. if i'm not mistaken the second batch of Gigabyte's GTX560 Ti SOC only have 950mhz on the core. maybe they really did drop the core frequency since it might be quite hard to guarantee every card with 1Ghz will operate normally


I think they did drop it. Because many people, and i mean MANY people had problems with the 1gig.
I've read about some ppl using MSI afterburner to downclock it to 950 Mhz and then having no problems at all. All the same, will the 950Mhz make a big difference in FPS when compared to 1Ghz?
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November 8, 2011 12:44:55 AM

i dont really think so. maybe the difference will be less than 5 fps. but to me those 1ghz number is more for bragging than actual performance. :p 
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November 8, 2011 9:21:01 PM

inanition02 said:
Logic is backwards - if 285>460, and 480>560 then 580>660 (not 680>560). Also, if SLI 400 series will beat your 560, then SLI 500 series should beat the 660.

Just sayin...

Well have any of you watched the nvidia roadmap presentation they are saying that the new Kepler architecture is suppose to have 4X the performance per watt and with the smaller transistors in the new die shrink they are going to pack a lot more goodie into each chip ( such as more stream processor,ROPS, shader engines...ect) so one gtx 680 or gtx 780 might be equivalent to 3-way sli gtx 580's so you might want to wait, plus the prices are going to drop more after the flagship designs are 1 or 2 months old . the 650 or 760 or what ever they call them. the next gen mid range cards will take the place of the mid range card at current time as far as price point goes maybe a little higher . If you have been buying video card for the past 5-6 years you would see these trends. 2013 is suppose to be the year to buy, from what nvidia says the Maxwell gpu is suppose to be 16 or 18 times the performance i forget. Got myself 2x gtx 460's SLI'ed and i get better frame rates than a 480 or 570 for $300 so my next buy for me, will be after 2013. i hope this clears things up
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November 8, 2011 9:51:10 PM

Unless developers push our GPU's to the limit, there will be no need for Maxwell. There are very very few games which can push a GTX 580 to it's limit (BF3, Metro 2033, maybe Skyrim) so a GTX 680 will be a complete waste of money. Another option is for everyone to buy 30" monitors and game at super high resolutions.
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November 9, 2011 6:17:09 AM

So guys, look at this : http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P3-156...

Its a dual gpu 560 ti that out performs a 580. I know an SLi config of 560 Ti's will do the same, but this just looks neater inside my PC rather than having two large cards running in SLi. Also it will outperform the new keplar series GPUS too (just my opinion) because it is very close to equalling a 590

Now my main question: ..
I read somewhere that you can pair up a HD 6870 X2 2GB and a HD 6870 1GB in crossfire?? :o 
If this is possible, will i be able to pair up this 560 Ti x2 with another regular 560 Ti?
Im sure I sound really stupid. But this is the first time I have started looking into SLi configs and know very little.
IF i can run my current GTX 560 Ti + this new GTX 560 Ti 2WIN, it would be Tri-SLi config (because the 2Win runs as a SLi config). Is tri-SLi possible with 560 ti's?
I know that Quad SLi is not possible. But most review sites say that I can put Two of the EVGA 2wins together to get a QUAD SLi config. They may be wrong. Because one site AND eVGA says that Quad SLi is not an option

1. SO guys, TRI SLI, can I do it?

2. For $520, is it worth more than a GTX 580 SLI which costs about $900+


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a c 89 U Graphics card
November 9, 2011 6:22:00 AM

Hmmm now thats a nice thought , hope it will be possible to tri SLI with a 560ti, if it does...I'm sold!
Guess we might have to wait for someone to confirm it.
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November 9, 2011 6:27:51 AM

Yes, this card beats the 580
But the 590 (580 x 2) still wins
BUT a Tri-SLI config will destroy the 590 XD :p 
annnnd it will keep up with the GTX 600 and 700 series cards too
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November 9, 2011 6:30:42 AM

@Monsta, which Gigabyte 560's do yu own?
The 950 Mhz or the 1000Mhz version?
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November 9, 2011 10:50:42 AM

Quote:
Well have any of you watched the nvidia roadmap presentation they are saying that the new Kepler architecture is suppose to have 4X the performance per watt and with the smaller transistors in the new die shrink they are going to pack a lot more goodie into each chip ( such as more stream processor,ROPS, shader engines...ect) so one gtx 680 or gtx 780 might be equivalent to 3-way sli gtx 580's


if i'm not mistaken nvidia was talking about double precision performance and not gaming performance when they talk that 4 times better performance per watt. personally i think the next single flagship may perform close to 2 way GTX580 at best.

Quote:
If this is possible, will i be able to pair up this 560 Ti x2 with another regular 560 Ti?


from GTX560 Ti 2Win review:

Quote:
SLI mode, you will have noticed there is a SLI connector on the PCB. Unfortunately you can not add a second card to go for quad-SLI mode. It's not a hardware limitation, yet a limitation set by NVIDIA, the GTX 560 Ti series is only allowed in 2-way SLI mode, which this card already is


source: http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-560-ti-2...

so there you have it. you can't go for 3 way or quad SLI with the card
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November 10, 2011 11:33:23 PM

SwaggaLike said:
So guys, look at this : http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=02G-P3-156...

Its a dual gpu 560 ti that out performs a 580. I know an SLi config of 560 Ti's will do the same, but this just looks neater inside my PC rather than having two large cards running in SLi. Also it will outperform the new keplar series GPUS too (just my opinion) because it is very close to equalling a 590

Now my main question: ..
I read somewhere that you can pair up a HD 6870 X2 2GB and a HD 6870 1GB in crossfire?? :o 
If this is possible, will i be able to pair up this 560 Ti x2 with another regular 560 Ti?
Im sure I sound really stupid. But this is the first time I have started looking into SLi configs and know very little.
IF i can run my current GTX 560 Ti + this new GTX 560 Ti 2WIN, it would be Tri-SLi config (because the 2Win runs as a SLi config). Is tri-SLi possible with 560 ti's?
I know that Quad SLi is not possible. But most review sites say that I can put Two of the EVGA 2wins together to get a QUAD SLi config. They may be wrong. Because one site AND eVGA says that Quad SLi is not an option

1. SO guys, TRI SLI, can I do it?

2. For $520, is it worth more than a GTX 580 SLI which costs about $900+



it has to be the same chip design. you can only sli 560 ti 1gb with a gtx 560 1gb. I am also sure you can not sli 2 2win cards.
sli works different than crossfire you can only use a second card as a phsx card in a 2win setup.
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November 11, 2011 12:37:33 AM

shaglocc said:
sli works different than crossfire you can only use a second card as a phsx card in a 2win setup.


the thing is nvidia only allowed 2 way SLI max with GTX560 Ti. the SLI connector on EVGA's GTX560 Ti 2Win is simply design error and they simply did nothing on the final design to remove the SLI connector. EVGA did give explanation to this but it still leads to confusion to some people
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