[Solved] PC just died, looking for new build. 800-900$ budget

This is my first time building a PC from scratch so please bear with me. It is likely I'll have a bunch of newbie questions.

Approximate Purchase Date: Possibly today. I was planning on holding off a few months until the price on the NVIDIA 500 series cards and I5 processors went down but my computer just died. I've got someone coming to look at it now but if I can't save it I'll have to purchase very soon.

Budget Range: 800-900$ before rebates.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, fraps, creating/editing videos, drawing, music, watching movies, etc..

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, speakers, operating system, monitor.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, but if there's a better place I'm open to suggestion.

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I would like a NVIDIA card and an Intel processor.

Overclocking: Maybe in the future

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, but this will be a future upgrade that I don't need right now.

Monitor Resolution: 1440x900, but this will also be upgraded in the future.

Additional Comments: My first gaming PC was my Dell XPS 420 which just died on me. It lasted 5 years, and while it was a decent machine it had almost no upgrade paths available. I want the machine I'm building now to have room for future upgrades. I want to be able to run SLI and be able to overclock in the future. I also want a decent CPU that won't become obsolete anytime soon. I also want to be able to add an SSD in the future as well.

Here is a build I came up with on my own. I have a 40$ off total purchase coupon for newegg so it just barely falls into my budget range after applying the coupon. I had a 1 TB hard drive on there but it was too expensive so I had to downgrade to a 500GB drive. Feel free to work off of this build, and if it's no good feel free to scrap it and come up with something completely new. Thank you everyone for your time.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/ [...] r=18102665

Reply to inner universe

If you want to overclock go with the 2500K for $10 more. The "K" processors have unlocked multipliers.

I'd seriously consider this power supply: Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green at the same price.

The hec unit you chose is 750w PEAK output.

Reply to phensen

Like the one on the top said, Go for Antec or Corsair Psus, they are rock solid.

By the way you might want to get a stronger psu right now, u need 850watts for gtx 560 ti, and overclking the i5, with time the chips will start getting old and will use more power, you should go for a 850 or 900 watts psu right now. you could save money in the future.

Reply to chulex67

Above +1

If you are not interested in overclocking, the i5-2400 will save you some money. Otherwise, the 2500k cpu is for you, but you will need a third party cooler such as http://www.gelidsolutions.com/prod [...] d=12&id=46
http://www.coolermaster.com/produc [...] ct_id=6603
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/c [...] advanced/1 is what I use, great cooling but was tricky to install.

Everything else is pretty decent. If you change your mind about SLI, you could skimp down on the psu and get a 600w psu or so.

------------------------------ I5-2500k @ 4.6GHz, Asus P8Z68-V Pro, Asus gtx580 Direct cuII, Corsair Vengence 8gb 1600mhz, Corsair AX850
Reply to Avieor

Thank you all for the replies, I've updated my original wishlist accordingly with the Antec PSU and the 2500K CPU.

Question: How is the case I have chosen? I don't know much about cases and I chose it solely based on the reviews? Would this case have room for SLI, and would it have room for me to add an SSD in the future?

Also, on the previous PSU I had, what does 750W peak capacity mean? I just assumed it delivered 750W of power.

I also should mention that I'm posting from my Dell again. The problem was resolved, apparantly there was a static build up that needed to be discharged, but it turns on and off again now. Should I wait a few months for the new PSUs and GPUs to come out so the prices go down?

Message edited by inner universe on 01-05-2012 at 09:00:46 PM

Reply to inner universe

As for the Antec, I don't like the case. I owned it, but the cable management is terrible, and the system was pretty loud. I'd personally go with something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197
(comes with 10 dollar off code)
Great cooling, quiet, tons of space for SLI/SSD (which is the same for Antec... but it'll get cramped), and excellent behind-the-board cable routing to keep airflow high.

Also, look into getting combo deals with your parts, you can save a lot of money like that... for example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.799376
(saves you ~10 bucks over your current setup and gives you a higher-rated PSU)

Message edited by digitalzom-b on 01-05-2012 at 09:00:27 PM

Reply to digitalzom-b

@ digitalzom-b,

"I'm not sure I understood what you meant by Great cooling, quiet, tons of space for SLI/SSD (which is the same for Antec... but it'll get cramped)"

Did you mean that the case you linked will get cramped just like the Antec will, or that the Antec gets cramped but the one you link doesn't?

Also a friend said I should get a high tower case for running SLI, but that will increase costs even more. What is your opinion on this? The case you linked does look nice though.

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Reply to inner universe

inner universe wrote :

@ digitalzom-b,

"I'm not sure I understood what you meant by Great cooling, quiet, tons of space for SLI/SSD (which is the same for Antec... but it'll get cramped)"

Did you mean that the case you linked will get cramped just like the Antec will, or that the Antec gets cramped but the one you link doesn't?

Also a friend said I should get a high tower case for running SLI, but that will increase costs even more. What is your opinion on this? The case you linked does look nice though.

A Full Tower case is generally not ideal for most people and is very expensive. The corsair 600T is about $150, but one of the best midtowers around. It is a bit over budget, but a good case is a good investment.

------------------------------ I5-2500k @ 4.6GHz, Asus P8Z68-V Pro, Asus gtx580 Direct cuII, Corsair Vengence 8gb 1600mhz, Corsair AX850
Reply to Avieor

I have the potential to wait a little bit before buying a new computer (unless it dies again). Would it be worth it to wait until February or March before purchasing? I think both NVIDIA GPU and Intel CPU prices will drop by then. Also, should I buy items from my wishlist that are on sale now even though I won't be able to use them all until I've bought all of them?

Another question. How is the motherboard I picked out? I picked it based on reviews and compatibility, but I'd like more opinions on it. Thanks to you guys so far I've changed my power supply and my processor, and I may change the case.

Message edited by inner universe on 01-05-2012 at 10:51:10 PM

Reply to inner universe

inner universe wrote :

@ digitalzom-b,

"I'm not sure I understood what you meant by Great cooling, quiet, tons of space for SLI/SSD (which is the same for Antec... but it'll get cramped)"

Did you mean that the case you linked will get cramped just like the Antec will, or that the Antec gets cramped but the one you link doesn't?

Also a friend said I should get a high tower case for running SLI, but that will increase costs even more. What is your opinion on this? The case you linked does look nice though.

I meant that the one I linked would probably be a better choice as it's got more interior room and is much easier to manage cables because of this. My Antec was hard to clean as the drive bays were annoying to take out (lots of screws).

If you're running just two cards in SLI, I don't see full tower being a necessity to be honest. However, I don't run SLI so I may not be the person to go to on that.

Lastly, I'd say the motherboard you picked is fine. 70+ percent 5 star rating tends to point to a quality mobo on Newegg, however the specs on the board are nice as well. Read through some of the reviews if you wish, get an idea of some problems you could run into, but take the with a grain of salt (some people fry their own boards and call it DOA because they don't know what they're doing and rate the board one star--which is unfair to the manufacturer).

Reply to digitalzom-b

The Asrock Extreme 4 Gen 3 isn't a bad motherboard. You should be fine with that.

I prefer Asus myself, but once upon a time they were the same company.

You might want to consider my case as well.

It is a mid tower (technically) but it kinda pushes the size limitations to the point that I don't really see how it isn't a full tower.

In any event, there is nothing but room in there.

The case is a PC-K59.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233191
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.770956
comes to $963 after rebates
for $63 more off your budget you get an ssd best one in market right now trust me buy these or $803 after rebates without ssd buy these or buy none! trust me

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Reply to nick3232

nick3232 wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233191
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.770956
comes to $963 after rebates
for $63 more off your budget you get an ssd best one in market right now trust me buy these or $803 after rebates without ssd buy these or buy none! trust me

Trust you?

You realize your combo lists a shoddy micro-atx board with no PCI slots or PCI Express 3.0, and a PSU that a) doesn't have enough 6pin connectors for SLI, and B) enough power to even think of SLIing 560s...

OP is looking to do SLI down the road and wants a high quality motherboard.

Message edited by digitalzom-b on 01-06-2012 at 04:39:46 PM

Reply to digitalzom-b

I already posted in another thread the same person suggested the full system to about the same thing.

Anyone who gets that will probably want to switch out the PSU right away.

It may not be the best setup for SLIing too.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

I feel my build is pretty solid now after taking in all the advice and making some changes. I only have a few more questions left.

1. How is the RAM I have chosen? Is it a good value for the price? The cas latency is 9 and I notice other rams have lower values, the lowest I could find was 7. Should I be worrying that the RAM I chose has a cas latency of 9?

2. Can a DVD burner function as a DVD-ROM drive? If so is there any point in getting a DVD-ROM drive? Yes, this is a real question, I honestly do not know the answer to this.

3. It was mentioned that the motherboard I chose was not bad, but how will it hold up in the future? For example, when I bought my Dell 5 years ago or so, when DDR3 ram came out I could not upgrade because my motherboard could only accept DDR2 RAM. Is there any issues like that I could avoid with a different board?

Reply to inner universe

if you're going to be doing video editing/rendering, you definitely want more RAM than normal. go with 12 or 16 gb. amazon always has great RAM prices; this is what i use and i haven't had any problems:

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Tec [...] 071&sr=8-1

and since you're going to be doing a lot of video editing, i would reccomend the i7-2600k instead of the 2500k, as the 2600k has hyperthreading which helps with multi-threaded applications (like video editing) it's like 100 dollars more but worth it. i know microcenter has them if you live near a store for about $280 right now.

------------------------------ AMD Phenom II x6 OC'd @ 3.8ghz, AMD Radeon HD 6870, Corsair 650 Watt PSU, Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5, 1 TB Western Digital 7200 RPM, 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM, 16 GB Kingston HyperX @ 1333mhz, CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ EVO CPU Cooler, Fractal Design Arc Midi
Reply to ParadoxEternal

DVD burners can read DVDs too, don't worry.

I am not a fan of the RAM brand, but everyone seems to be picking it these days. The motherboard is also OK. It is a DDR3 board and that is the best thing out at the moment.

You will be limited going into the future on what sort of CPU upgrades you can have, but if you intend to stick with the one you are getting then it is fine.

The 2600k will massively bust your budget if you take it, but it does have some performance advantages in a few areas, video editing included.

As for the RAM, the CAS latency is a measure of how fast it is and 7 is faster than 9 by a good percentage, but the 9 will work just fine. If you had a lot more room in the budget it might be worth it to move to 7, but with no more room you don't need to try to sacrifice all over in order to get down to 7 on this.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

@Raiddinn,

Interesting, so what is the point of a DVD ROM if I can just get a DVD Burner instead? Should I switch out my DVD ROM for a DVD Burner?

Reply to inner universe

I wouldn't get a drive that only reads DVDs myself and I wouldn't suggest anyone else do so either.

The advancements kinda went like this
CD Reading
CD Reading + Writing
CD Reading + Writing + DVD Reading
CD Reading + Writing + DVD Reading + DVD Writing
CD Reading + Writing + DVD Reading + DVD Writing + Blu Ray Reading
CD Reading + Writing + DVD Reading + DVD Writing + Blu Ray Reading + Blu Ray Writing

Just reading is basically one technological step backward from reading + writing DVDs. It could come with a reduced cost perhaps to make it worthwhile to use the older technology.

The price difference between dvd readers and writers is so low it doesn't make sense to just read, though.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

Thanks, that helps a lot. Any recommendations on a drive I should get?

Also, should I switch out the P67 mobo for a Z68? If so, which one?

EDIT: According to this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1155

A P67 board does not allow overclocking of the GPU. Did I understand that link correctly?

If this is true I'd rather have a Z68 board since I'll likely want to overclock my GPU in the future. Trying to pick a mobo is getting very confusing. I want one that will allow me to run SLI and have an SSD. I also see that some have PCIe 3.0 and some do not. Is this an important feature to have?

How does this look, it's 20$ cheaper then the current one in my list.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502

Message edited by inner universe on 01-09-2012 at 07:48:55 AM

Reply to inner universe

PCIE 3.0 will be more important in the future than it is now.

Overclocking the graphics card... usually done in software at the driver level with AMD Overdrive or the Nvidia version of it.

The motherboard doesn't usually have anything to do with it. Any motherboard is basically the same as far as OCing the GPU is concerned.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

I see. Looking at the board currently in my list: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157265

It says for PCIe 2.0 there is 1 @ x4. What exactly does this mean? The product description says it is SLI capable but if I am reading that right there is only one PCIe 2.0 slot and it is x4 not x16.

How does it look compared to these two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128512

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502

Message edited by inner universe on 01-09-2012 at 08:06:20 AM

Reply to inner universe

The graphics cards will fit in the PCIE 3.0 slots just fine, so you can get x16/x8 performance out of those two.

They are mostly the same, I would go with the GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3. It is the most expensive, but its also a newer setup than the first one and has more useful features than the 3rd one.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

Ahh I did not know that I could put a 2.0 GPU in a PCIe 3.0 slot. So what features does the GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 have over the ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 that make the GIGABYTE a better choice?

Message edited by inner universe on 01-09-2012 at 05:37:09 PM

Reply to inner universe

Yes you can put GPU with PCIE 2.0 in PCIE 3.0 , because 3.0 is backward compatible. Your build is verry good. Go for it.

------------------------------ i7 2600 , AsRock P67 Extreme 6 ,2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 , MSI 6950 2GB , HDD WD 640 AAKS , Corsair 620HX 620W , CPU cooler Zalman CNPS10X Performa , CoolerMaster 912, Philips Led 22"
Reply to sosofm

Gigabyte is just plain a higher tier manufacturer of motherboards than Asrock is. Most people would probably put Asus and Gigabyte at the top and the next tier down from there is Asrock, MSI, and Biostar so right there you are looking at a less trusted name.

The Z68 is just plain a newer board type which is never a bad thing.

The Z68 can use more different kinds of RAM natively than the Asrock P67.

I would say all that is worth $10.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

What about the lack of PCIe 3.0? I know it's not a big deal right now, but could I be gimped in the future because of it?

Reply to inner universe

Best answer

It is certainly possible that something will come out soon that makes you really want PCIE 3.0, like the ATI 7000 series graphics cards, for instance.

If you are worried about that eventuality, it might not be the worst idea to find a Gigabyte board with PCIE 3.0.

That being said, PCIE 3.0 is nowhere near the standard right now so anyone that makes anything will generally try to make it backwards compatible with 2.0.

Even if you did want an AMD 7000 series card, you would still have good enough experiences with 2.0 most likely.

Anyway, if you want to find a new gigabyte board with 3.0 then I will compare it alongside the others you have chosen here.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

Well I don't see myself ever needing more than 2x GTX 560 TI's running in SLI, so I guess I can pass on the PCIe 3.0 to save some money. The hard drive I chose in my wishlist has about 20 different combo deals featuring the hard drive + a motherboard. I could really use a hand sorting through which one is the best deal.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] =10&Page=2

I just need a mobo that can run SLI and run an SSD and is compatible with everything in my list. Z68 would be preferred since it is newer, but I'm not going to be too picky on that since I don't think I'll have any use for the integrated GPU if I am using a GTX 560 TI.

Right now I have my eye on this board since it's cheaper and still seems to have everything I need, unless there is a better deal in the above list of combo deals.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128502

Message edited by inner universe on 01-10-2012 at 12:13:23 AM

Reply to inner universe

That board should be fine.

I am not a fan of how close the PCIE slots are to each other, but it is more normal than anything else these days.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

Okay, the absolute last question I have is how does the PSU in this bundle deal look?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.799376

Message edited by inner universe on 01-10-2012 at 03:13:38 AM

Reply to inner universe

Cooler Master doesn't make quality PSUs, nor can their PSUs be trusted to output their stated wattage under normal conditions.

Try to find a deal on an Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, or XFX PSU instead.

------------------------------ i5-3570k, Asrock Z77 Pro4, XFX Pro 650w Core, 2x 4GB Crucial CT2KIT51264BA1339, PowerColor 6850 SCS3, Lian Li PC - K59, Seagate Barracuda 500gb hd, ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVDRW

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Reply to Raiddinn

In that case, this power supply was recommended to me earlier in the thread. What is your opinion on it Raiddlinn? It's cheaper than that cooler master but it is also an Antec.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] wsp6lcn5wb

Reply to inner universe

Antec is a reputable company that makes quality power supplies. I would definitely suggest that PSU for your build.

Reply to strausd

Also this one, slightly more expensive. Should I go with the previous antec I linked or this antec? It's 8$ more but has better reviews.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371049

Or this modular ocz?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] llFullInfo

Message edited by inner universe on 01-10-2012 at 05:21:19 AM

Reply to inner universe

I don't think I can get myself to recommend OCZ to anyone for any kind of part, but at least in the PSU area if you insist on cheap modular they aren't the worst company in the world to get it from.

I would get an XFX 750w instead of both of those, but out of those two I would go with the Antec and suck up the lack of modular. If you have a good case you can usually find somewhere to hide the cables that isn't in the way.

I tie my cables off and just leave them sitting on the bottom where they don't block airflow myself.

Message edited by Raiddinn on 01-10-2012 at 04:38:10 PM

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Reply to Raiddinn

Raiddinn and everyone else, thank you all very much. You guys were very patient with answering my barrage of questions and were extremely helpful. This website once again proves to be a valuable resource for a newbie like me. All my parts will be arriving in a few days and hopefully I'll figure out how to assemble everything without destroying something.

In case you were wondering, I went with the OCZ Modular based on these two reviews. If two independent people can break it down and run it through a barrage of tests and come out satisfied, in addition to a 69% of the reviews on newegg giving it 5 eggs, I figure it will be able to handle my system. It also has a 5 year warranty so I should be safe with this.

http://www.overclockers.com/ocz-zt-750w
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.p [...] y&reid=262

Reply to inner universe

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