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January 6, 2012 1:10:33 PM

Hi it's me again and i plan on building my nephew a mid-end gaming pc that can also do some school work/youtube/facebook etc.

on a 1980x1080 Resolution on a single Monitor, with a decent 60fps average, and going for a pink chassis, we already have a mouse and a keyboard and monitor and Optical drive.

stores: tigerdirect or newegg, prefered tiger direct.

Chassis: 129.99$
NZXT PHAN-003PK Phantom Enthusiast Full-Tower Case - E-ATX, ATX, Micro-ATX, Baby AT, 5x Ext 5.25", 7x Int 3.5", 3x 120mm Fans, 1x 200mm LED Fans, 2x USB 2.0 Ports, 1x USB 3.0 Port, Pink
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Processor: 219.99$
Intel Core i5-2500K BX80623I52500 Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.30 GHz (3.70 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Mother Board: 99.99$
MSI P67A-G43 B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel P67 Express, DDR3 2133MHz (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH HD Audio, Gigabit LAN, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, CrossFireX Ready
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Video Card: 214.99
Gigabyte GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, HDMI, DirectX 11, SLI Ready
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD: 109.99$
OCZ OCZSSD2-1VTXPL120G Vertex Plus 2.5" Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA II
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD: 259.99$
Western Digital WD2002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 2TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 64MB
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

RAM: 49.99$
Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2 x 4GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 9-9-9-27 CAS Latency, Intel XPM Ready Desktop Memory Kit
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

PSU: 199.99$
Corsair CMPSU-850AX AX850 Power Supply - ATX, Modular, 850 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, 120mm Ultra-Quiet Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


Total is 1024,93$ without the other extra charges

well the budget is 800$ and it really went over it, anyone of you got any nice choice that i could replace?
of course each of those are needed, SSD/HDD, but i plan to stick onto good brand. well i'm thinking that maybe they might upgrade it to a 2-way SLI in the future but still not sure, what are your opinions?

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January 6, 2012 1:18:33 PM

oh yes i forgot to ask, if we are going to spend extra cash on air cooling, which brand should we go? that would fit that nzxt phantom full tower, also for cpu cooler should we go for corsair Liquid cooling?
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January 6, 2012 1:25:57 PM

Man you really bone yourself when you try to stick with a pink case. The NZXT Phantom Pink case is pretty much the only real option and it looks like you have to pay quite a lot for it.

You can get this PSU instead

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It isn't modular, but it is 60% less after MIR and maybe even better quality. Modular is really more for people who aren't trying to slim down the budget.

Hard Drive - No good reason to buy a huge hard drive now. Might as well buy a 500GB hard drive now and get a new 2 TB drive in half a year or something when the prices are back to normal.

Those two things would get you into your budget range by themselves without costing anything in the way of performance.
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January 6, 2012 1:37:18 PM

I would avoid that full system if only because of the PSU.
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January 6, 2012 1:40:24 PM

I would cut your hdd and ssd sizes in half to save some cash. I would also suggest cutting your PSU to probably 600 or 650 watts unless you plan on some monster GPU upgrades later. I suggest sticking with a moderate air cooling solution unless you are gonna O.C.
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January 6, 2012 2:16:21 PM

The price can be cut on a lot of things...
First of all, your thread title is humorous; I'm guessing you are not a native English speaker. Your brother's or sister's SON (male child) is called a "nephew;" your brother's or sister's DAUGHTER (female child) is called a "niece" (pronounced "neese").
But, on to the rig...
I really doubt you want a big, full tower case for this build. Hopefully you can convince your niece that being pink is not a requirement. Apevia makes a couple of smaller pink cases, but being Apevia, I cannot recommend them due to almost certain quality issues (I owned an Apevia case years ago. Big mistake).
It looks like you've gone for overkill in this build.
Here's a build that would be suitable for the intended purposes:

GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:GV-N560UD-1GI
Item #:N82E16814125401
$219.99 -$10.00 Instant $209.99
Really, for a "mid end" gaming PC, you could safely drop back to a HD6850 if you need to tighten the budget, but I agree that a GTX560Ti can handle just about anything with decent frame rates and is the more future-resistant choice.

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
Model #:CHALLENGER
Item #:N82E16811147153
$59.99 -$10.00 Instant $49.99
Big personal preference item, but I've been happy with every one of the various (5-6) Rosewill cases I've bought. Their fans are quiet but effective.

GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:GA-Z68A-D3H-B3
Item #:N82E16813128502
$129.99 -$7.00 Instant $122.99
Z-68 offers the most future-resistance, and this one has both SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0.

SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:S12II 520 Bronze
Item #:N82E16817151094
$84.99 -$25.00 Instant $59.99
AFAIK, Seasonic has never released a bad PSU. This one should be very solid and efficient.

Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I32105
Model #:BX80623I32105
Item #:N82E16819115090
$134.99 $134.99
For what your niece will be doing, this CPU is sufficient. If you do want something stronger, get an i5 but consider how likely she will be to ever overclock before buying a "K" model.

G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT
Model #:F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT
Item #:N82E16820231424
$34.99 $34.99
In my experience, G.Skill RAM simply works. It has become my first choice, even over Mushkin and Crucial.

HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:HDS721050CLA362
Item #:N82E16822145299
$79.99 $79.99
If your niece needs more storage space, I would suggest waiting until hard drive prices have come down. To start, 500GB should easily be sufficient.

Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM
Model #:AD-7261S-0B
Item #:N82E16827118040
$21.99 $21.99
One optical drive is much like another, but this one offers Lightscribe.

Subtotal: $714.92
There's no need to spend over $1K on this system.
In a few moments, I'm going to post another build, a little more focused on aesthetics that I think she will also like.
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January 6, 2012 3:23:54 PM

Here is an alternate build, with a greater focus on aesthetics but that does not sacrifice much in the way of performance.

LIAN LI PC-Q08R Red Aluminum Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case
Model #:p C-Q08R
Item #:N82E16811112267
$149.99 -$30.00 Instant $119.99
This is the red version of a very nice small case. To see more of how it looks, go to youtube and look up "jtt283;" the only thing I've got out there is a slideshow of a build I did in one of these. Your niece may really like it. I can tell you the fans are very quiet, and it is small enough to fit on a desk behind a typical LCD monitor. Even with the lower drive cage removed to allow a longer video card, there is plenty of room to mount drives.

HIS IceQ H687Q1G2M Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Model #:H687Q1G2M
Item #:N82E16814161393
Mail in Rebate Card
$189.99 $189.99
Although weaker than the GTX560Ti, I chose this card because it exhausts its heat, which does matter in the small case. It is certainly powerful enough to qualify this PC as a "mid-end" gamer.

FSP Group FSP450-60GHS(85)-R 450W Micro ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Intel Core i3/i5/i7 Compatible Power ...
Model #:FSP450-60GHS(85)-R
Item #:N82E16817104132
$69.99 -$8.00 Instant $61.99
You can still get the 550W Antec Truepower New that I used, which would certainly be viable, but add another $38-$40 to the price. This PSU is not modular, but it is a lot smaller, leaving space around it for the few excess cables. This PSU IS strong enough for the HD6870.

Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
Model #:BX80623I32120
Item #:N82E16819115077
$139.99 -$10.00 Instant $129.99
Actually, the previous build should probably use this CPU also, for a few hundred MHz speed increase. You don't need to care that the onboard HD2000 IGP is weaker, since you won't be using it.

ASRock H67M-ITX LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
Model #:H67M-ITX
Item #:N82E16813157238
$94.99 -$8.00 Instant $86.99
I've had good results from ASRock boards, although I've never used this one. Like the full-sized board in the previous build, this one has SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0.

HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:HDS721050CLA362
Item #:N82E16822145299
$79.99 $79.99
As noted above, this drive is certainly enough to get started.

Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM
Model #:AD-7261S-0B
Item #:N82E16827118040
$21.99 $21.99
Once again, one optical drive is much like another, although this one has LightScribe.

Subtotal: $690.93

Hopefully one of these two will get you started on building a nice PC for your niece.

Edit: Oops, just realized I left off the RAM. Just use the same G.Skill kit from the previous build.

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January 6, 2012 5:55:43 PM

I just wanted to say that a video processor on the processor is not wasted (unless the motherboard doesn't have a graphics port). At the very least it can be helpful to diagnose graphics problems.

G.Skill RAM - It seems to me that every time someone comes in here with a RAM problem they happen to have G.Skill RAM, including like 4 in the last week that I personally participated in, by your mileage obviously varies.

I just installed more Crucial RAM in my system today and it worked right as soon as I plugged it in. That is what I would recommend to everyone. Crucial has higher standards for acceptable DRAM chips than almost all the other RAM companies which translates into RAM that just plain works more often.

The FSP PSU kinda makes me cringe, but if $ saving is the most important thing then I guess it isn't the worst PSU one could get instead of a Seasonic one.
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January 6, 2012 6:46:58 PM

Tavo_Nova said:
Hi it's me again and i plan on building my nephew a mid-end gaming pc that can also do some school work/youtube/facebook etc.

on a 1980x1080 Resolution on a single Monitor, with a decent 60fps average, and going for a pink chassis, we already have a mouse and a keyboard and monitor and Optical drive.

stores: tigerdirect or newegg, prefered tiger direct.

Chassis: 129.99$
NZXT PHAN-003PK Phantom Enthusiast Full-Tower Case - E-ATX, ATX, Micro-ATX, Baby AT, 5x Ext 5.25", 7x Int 3.5", 3x 120mm Fans, 1x 200mm LED Fans, 2x USB 2.0 Ports, 1x USB 3.0 Port, Pink
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Processor: 219.99$
Intel Core i5-2500K BX80623I52500 Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 3.30 GHz (3.70 GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Retail
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Mother Board: 99.99$
MSI P67A-G43 B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel P67 Express, DDR3 2133MHz (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH HD Audio, Gigabit LAN, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, CrossFireX Ready
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Video Card: 214.99
Gigabyte GV-N560OC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, HDMI, DirectX 11, SLI Ready
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD: 109.99$
OCZ OCZSSD2-1VTXPL120G Vertex Plus 2.5" Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA II
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD: 259.99$
Western Digital WD2002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 2TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 64MB
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

RAM: 49.99$
Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2 x 4GB), PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 9-9-9-27 CAS Latency, Intel XPM Ready Desktop Memory Kit
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

PSU: 199.99$
Corsair CMPSU-850AX AX850 Power Supply - ATX, Modular, 850 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, 120mm Ultra-Quiet Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


Total is 1024,93$ without the other extra charges

well the budget is 800$ and it really went over it, anyone of you got any nice choice that i could replace?
of course each of those are needed, SSD/HDD, but i plan to stick onto good brand. well i'm thinking that maybe they might upgrade it to a 2-way SLI in the future but still not sure, what are your opinions?

What games do your niece play?
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January 6, 2012 6:58:55 PM

I got this case for my wife's PC, it's way more girly than your section, and it was quite easy to build in as well. Though you would have to get the matx version of your mobo (they do make one)
http://www.pcplanetsystems.com/abc/product_details.php?...

Other than that it looks like everyone else has you covered. Looks like a sweet build!
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January 6, 2012 8:04:29 PM

That FSP PSU is used in one of the Silverstone cases, and I believe it was given a good review by HardwareSecrets. Their smaller one is used in the SUGO-05, and that one also got excellent marks from HardwareSecrets. I'd buy or use either if I wanted something in that form factor; Seasonic has a TFX (also excellent), but not one in that size.

Edit: I've never had to RMA a G.Skill stick, or got one DOA. It has also worked at advertised timings, generally without tweaking. The latter point I can't say about the recent Corsair Vengeance, which will not work at DDR3-1600 on my board, even though it's on the QVL list (it works fine at 1333, so I'll use it elsewhere).
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January 7, 2012 5:01:03 AM

ahahaha sorry about my english mistake. but anyway thank you, currently reading everything, and for the great advice. many thanks to everyone, i'll go check things out and see
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January 17, 2012 1:20:02 PM

Best answer selected by Tavo_Nova.
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January 17, 2012 1:21:36 PM

sorry for the long reply ^_^ was looking for this thread, and thank you everyone for your support actually i just ordered the stuff you guys recommended and is supposed to arrive in a few days/weeks, and after discussing it with my niece she said to say thank you for everyone who helped out ^_^
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January 17, 2012 2:23:24 PM

Thanks. I think your niece will enjoy it; is she going to build it with you? That would be a fun project...
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