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January 6, 2012 8:47:11 PM

Hey guys/gals :hello: 

looking to build a new computer for my dad since his failed. So far this is what i've come up with:
-i5 2500k (cpu) or i5 2400 (is there any major difference)?
-Biostar TP67B+LGA 1155 p67 ATX intel (motherboard)
-Vortex 3620 ATX (tower)
-Eagle Technologies Voltas X500 Watt (power supply)
-I have the ram needed.
-As for the optical drives and hard drive can I just use the one's from my dad's old computer? (it was a dimension 8400)
-Also what should I do about a graphics card? My dad isn't really going to be playing any games he usually uses the computer for stock trading and so forth he also records on screen stuff a lot with a few programs.

any help would be appreciated

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January 6, 2012 8:55:44 PM

I would not buy that Motherboard or PSU if I were you. I haven't heard of the PSU and skimping out on the PSU is BAD. It could potentially fail and fry your whole computer if it's unreliable...go with something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would also go with another motherboard, since BIOSTAR has a reputation of not being too good..something like this would work perfectly:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It contains a Z68 chipset, which allows for Virtu, which is a switch btwn a discrete gfx card and the onboard gfx to save power, which is good.
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January 6, 2012 9:57:10 PM

The motherboard is a docking station for your components, I never pick one that is extremely high in price, but I do pick motherboards that are from a reputable brand such as ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, or ASRock. I always pick reputable brands because I feel better knowing that chances are, the motherboard sent to my house won't be defective while other companies' motherboard might be. It's just a feeling, but I mean, chances are, the BIOSTAR motherboard would work too, however, I always learned to steer clear of motherboards that aren't one of the major companies. As for the chipset, the Z68 chipset contains 2 important features.
1. Virtu - This allows you to plug your monitor cable to the motherboard video output (normally the onboard video)...with Virtu enabled, the machine will use the GFX card when doing graphics intensive work (such as games), and the motherboard will switch to the onboard video when you're not doing graphics intensive work (such as web browsing)
2. Smart Response Technology - This feature enables you to couple a standard HDD with an SSD and boost the performance of the HDD by caching most used applications on the SSD...I believe Tom's did a test and it really doesn't do too much to speed the system up (just use the SSD as a boot drive).

Also the Power Supply is the "heart" of your computer. It provides the power and the circuitry contains safety switches and systems to not damage your computer in case of failure...some cheaper PSUs don't have a good safety and this might cause damage to your components (RAM, Motherboard, CPU) if the PSU fails. Also the PSU provides power, and so the "wattage" is normally the max wattage (although some do provide more power than what the company said).
Personally I would go with a company such as FSP or Seasonic, although some Antec and Corsair PSUs are reliable (they're normally made by FSP or Seasonic)
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January 7, 2012 12:33:26 AM

That one works but isn't a Z68 chipset and also the PCIe 2.0 x16 slots run at x16 and x4, which isn't recommended if you're going to crossfire
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January 7, 2012 12:40:43 AM

It's good, however, the PCIe x.0 x16 slots are again, x16 and x4, which is not great for CF/SLI
I'm gonna go with this board still, since it has a x16, x8, and x4 PCIe slot. However, the ASUS board is good too if you really want to go with ASUS
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January 7, 2012 12:44:08 AM

What does the "x16 and x4" mean?
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January 7, 2012 12:53:41 AM

His dad is not going to crossfire or SLI - get real. In fact the onboard graphics will suit him just fine. If he does want a discrete GPU add one later - just make sure you get a PSU closer to 500W for a decent card.
-Bruce
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January 7, 2012 12:55:59 AM

Just to clarify for the most part my dad is gonna use the computer to do stock trading and sometimes use on screen recording nothing crazy he won't play any games. He will want to dual monitors probably some time down the road but thats not a concern atm.
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January 7, 2012 1:11:48 AM

Probably overkill either way for non gaming/cpu light tasks.

Regardless, are you going to overclock? If not, the i5 2400 is pretty much as good as the 2500k at stock speeds.
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January 7, 2012 1:18:06 AM

It's the speed of the PCIe 2.0 slots
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January 7, 2012 1:24:18 AM

If you say he's not going to game and only: "gonna use the computer to do stock trading and sometimes use on screen recording nothing crazy he won't play any games"
then this set up is perfect:

CPU: Intel i3 2100 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: HIS Radeon 6870 $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo: ASRock H61M-VS $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair Builders CX430 $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Gamma $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM HDD $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.Skill Value RAM 8GB (2 x 4GB) $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heatsink+Fan: Stock $0

DVD-ROM: Samsung 22X DVD burner $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 7, 2012 1:53:21 AM

What if I got the following:

CPU: Intel i3 2100

mobo: ASUS P8Z68-V LX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Will I need a graphics card or does this one have one on board?

PSU: Corsair Builders CX430 $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139026

Case: Vortex 3620 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: i have

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 80 GB - 150 MBps - 7200 rpm
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=st380013as&um=...

(it's the old one from my dad's computer)

DVD-ROM: Philips DVD 8701 (its the old one from my dad's computer).

Again thanks for all the help from everyone

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January 7, 2012 2:36:47 AM

A cheap AthlonII x2 260 (69$) will suffice for that. Dual core and 3.2 Ghz. Fast enough for internet stuff. Look for a nice cheap motherboard with AMD integrated graphic. Enough for the video task. And I can tell you that AMD Biostar motherboard are nice board and I got great succes with them. Based on my experience, I'd rather get a Biostar than an Asus with their buggy bios that don't like to deal with with PCIe RAID card when the chipset is set as RAID. I curently run Gigabyte motherboard, but won't mind running an Asrock. Even ECS motherboard gave me nice result, as I never got one to fail on me. This one, BIOSTAR A880G+ (60$), if you only need 2 ram slot, would do good. Both, the CPU and the motherboard are free shipping and the cost of the i3 only. And for doing what he does, that's all he needs.

Don't know if you are going to reuse the other system HDD( not clear in your post, but that leave you about 125$ based on the Asus motherboardyou choose. I would take thay 125$ and get an SSD drive for OS and apps, keeping the other HDD for misc storage need. Check the newegg SSD, they are plenty with free shipping.

For what he does, a fast SSD will do better than a fast CPU as it will likely be always idleling as internet bandwidth is far from saturating this system. Prices are from newegg.
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January 7, 2012 10:01:44 AM

I won't go with an AMD Athlon x2, the i3 2100 is perfect. It has the ability to hyper thread meaning it can run 4 threads, so it simulates being a 4 core CPU. Also, that motherboard WILL allow you to use the onboard gfx
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January 7, 2012 1:40:05 PM

I'd rather have a SSD than 4 thread running idle (unused) most of the time. SSD will improve cache read and write and with screen recording. Better boot time as well.

Going dual monitor later? The AMD chipset is able to support it and the board has the output to support it.

To OP, I don't know about your budget, but I suggest a SSD drive rather than a faster CPU if he is going to watch internet stuff. What make browser work is mostly read or write to cache, and at this point, the SSD will make his system faster. Especially with the slower Seagate. Even during heavy hdd work, the CPU never goes more than a few % of use. The seagate will be good at holding static data (pictures, music,...)
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