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November 10, 2011 3:26:18 PM

Hello all, I;m wondering whether a low profile hd radeon 5570 would work with a 300W psu. Right now im stuck with a weak 250W psu and i found a 300W psu that will fit my computer's slim case. I'm planning on buying these immediately and i've heard countless miracle stories of 5570s working with 250W psus just fine, so all i really need is some verification so i wont blow my new psu up. Also here's the links to the products im buying:

Here's the psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


And the 5570: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Or this one?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 10, 2011 3:49:23 PM

The 5570 requires a 400w power supply minimum.

Athena Power AP-TFX35 350W TFX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply for many HP Slimline System Upgrades/Replacement - OEM $65.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is a 350w psu and the highest one that Newegg has , I think that there is a 400w psu for the slimline Pc. Here it is;

http://blujay.com/item/400w-TFX-Power-Supply-9080000-34...

SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
I like this card that you selected , it has a fan on the heatsink for better cooling.
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November 10, 2011 3:53:10 PM

Get the 350w and a HD6670 ?
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November 10, 2011 3:54:24 PM

Btw do you know your mobo pcie version ?
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November 10, 2011 3:55:22 PM

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The 5570 requires a 400w power supply minimum.

Actually it requires much less, at full load it doesn't draw more than 50-60W.
Thats what makes it a popular low profile card.


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Athena Power AP-TFX35 350W TFX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply for many HP Slimline System Upgrades/Replacement - OEM $65.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817338064

This is a 350w psu and the highest one that Newegg has , I think that there is a 400w psu for the slimline Pc. Here it is;

http://blujay.com/item/400w-TFX-Po [...] 00-3405289


Thanks for the links now i'm definitely reconsidering on buying one of these.

Thanks for the help too, i really appreciate it!
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November 10, 2011 4:01:51 PM

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Btw do you know your mobo pcie version ?

I'm almost positive that since its an older pc, that it's a 2.0 express, but i know that almost everything on the pcie versions are cross compatible.

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Get the 350w and a HD6670 ?

I thought about it for a bit, but realized that my 4 year old computer would bottleneck the card so i gave up on the idea, but i know the 5570 would work just fine.


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November 10, 2011 4:06:51 PM

As long as the rest of your system doesn't use too much power a 5570 is fine with that PSU. The reason a 400W unit is recommended is to compensate for crappy PSU units with false rating and to account for using more powerful components like multiple drives and a 125W CPU, which is unlikely in a slim line.
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November 10, 2011 4:09:55 PM

The 5570 requires a 400w power supply minimum.



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Actually it requires much less, at full load it doesn't draw more than 50-60W.
Thats what makes it a popular low profile card.


I know that the card doesn't use 400w but it does require you to have in your Pc a minimum 400w psu and that is according to the detailed specifications of the card , it's requiring that so you have enough power for the card and the other components in the Pc so that you are not crashing the Pc for lack of power. Some psu manufacturers make really good power supplies and you can run a 300w because they make the psu to run at a higher standard and you can draw 300w or more because the quality is so good. Others make cheap quality and you have nothing but trouble with them , I like to get a psu that is much higher than what I need so there is plenty of room for spare power since I never know what I am going to add to my Pc.
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November 10, 2011 4:11:35 PM

Alright so the situation is a 5570 at peak load uses between 196W and 211W. This leaves very little power for your processor and other peripherals.

Can it run it? Yes. Recommended? No.

Guru3d recommends 350W and I tend to agree with them.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/6
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November 10, 2011 4:17:51 PM

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Alright so the situation is a 5570 at peak load uses between 196W and 211W. This leaves very little power for your processor and other peripherals.


I'm 100% positive the 5570 i want does not come close to drawing that much power, are you talking about the full sized card perhaps?

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November 10, 2011 4:25:09 PM

dalmvern said:
Alright so the situation is a 5570 at peak load uses between 196W and 211W. This leaves very little power for your processor and other peripherals.

Can it run it? Yes. Recommended? No.

Guru3d recommends 350W and I tend to agree with them.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/6

it has no external power connectors therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to use more than the 75W it can draw through the slot, id think a 300w unit would be enough if it is from a reputable brand, what make is your psu?
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November 10, 2011 4:25:55 PM

dalmvern said:
Alright so the situation is a 5570 at peak load uses between 196W and 211W. This leaves very little power for your processor and other peripherals.

Can it run it? Yes. Recommended? No.

Guru3d recommends 350W and I tend to agree with them.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/6



Thats the total system draw. My gtx 560 ti SOC uses less than 200w under load !
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November 10, 2011 4:30:13 PM

I notice that it does say system power, so you are right, the card is probably alot less, I didnt see that before.
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November 10, 2011 4:33:18 PM

No prob ;) 
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November 10, 2011 5:15:49 PM

right now i have a lame 250W stock psu, but thanks to Inzone I'm most likely getting one of the ones he recommended, but do any of you think that a 300W psu could handle a low profile 5570? This is the original psu i planned on getting:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 10, 2011 5:17:19 PM

i thought you already had the 300w if you havent deffo get a higher wattage even a 500w if you can afford it
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November 10, 2011 5:25:40 PM

i can afford it but i have a slim pc, so they're extremely hard to upgrade.
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November 10, 2011 5:44:37 PM

ah get the 350, youre always better off getting a higher wattage than you need as the psu will be more efficient and run cooler, plus it leaves more room for future upgrades if that ever happens
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November 10, 2011 5:54:19 PM

a 6670 will run bf3 at 1080p, just
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November 10, 2011 8:13:44 PM

I never thought about getting a 6670 since i had a lame psu, but now im 90% sure im getting it along with the new psu, if we're talking about the low profile 6670 then yes i will get it for sure with the 350W psu. A big Thank You to all who helped me pick the right psu and gpu!!! :D 
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November 10, 2011 10:35:59 PM

Did we accomplish the pcie version yet ?

Because this is not true ;

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Btw do you know your mobo pcie version ?
Reply ; I'm almost positive that since its an older pc, that it's a 2.0 express, but i know that almost everything on the pcie versions are cross compatible."

I would think because it's an older pc it might be 1.0 and than some 2.1 cards don't always work with it.

Maybe you did tell your mobo or pcmodel allready, it's a to long thread . . .
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November 11, 2011 5:14:36 AM

Afraid you might be right.

Well i'm not going to advice the 6670 than, i'm not sure it will work than.

It might work if your bios is up to date but i don't know enough about that to be sure.

Maybe someone else on the forum knows, or you can google yourself to see if anyone has a 2.1 card running on this machine.
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November 11, 2011 12:04:34 PM

What if i took a step back and just went with the 5570 for now? Im not sure anything more recent than that card would be compatible anymore.
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November 11, 2011 1:42:23 PM

a 5xxx series and a 6xxx series have lots of similarities if one works in the slot the other will to
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November 11, 2011 2:47:30 PM

so what's the best card out of the 5xxx or 6xxx series i could get that's low profile and is compatible with my mobo?
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November 11, 2011 3:59:43 PM

6670 low profile, pcie is backwards compatible with older versions
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November 11, 2011 4:02:24 PM

i see, but like robjordy said, i dont know if it is compatible with my bios
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November 11, 2011 4:07:11 PM

i thought any bios supports any pcie graphics card, i mean its just a conduit to the cpu, and its handled by the drivers in windows
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November 11, 2011 4:14:32 PM

i guess its worth a try then, now the problem is finding one, the only manufacturer i know right now is HIS with this one:

http://www.techpowerup.com/154753/HIS-Unveils-New-Low-P...

I can't find any in any other website right now that i can trust with my money, do any of you know where i could find a reasonably priced one?
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November 12, 2011 3:31:26 AM

Well I've searched all day for a low profile 6670 and so far no luck at all :( 
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November 12, 2011 10:40:10 AM

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Well I've searched all day for a low profile 6670 and so far no luck at all :( 

same
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November 12, 2011 11:18:02 AM

in low profile card go for ati 5670 a very best card medium perfomance and low power consumption or even gts 450 is very good
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November 12, 2011 3:46:28 PM

I've been looking at the 5670 for awhile too, so if i cant find a 6670 then ill just go with the 5670, also one more question, since im not getting a 6670 anymore, would a dedicated 300W psu work with it? Keep in mind the gpu and psu are both for a slim pc, here's the psu i had in mind:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 12, 2011 10:03:23 PM

I have a slim pc, so they wouldn't fit, and about the Athena psu, I've heard horror stories of them not giving out the required wattage for a gpu and suddenly exploding and killing it along with the mobo. I'ts been hell trying to find a low profile 6670, so right now im looking for a 5670 keep me updated if you guys find one please.
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November 13, 2011 3:54:25 PM

dalmvern said:
Alright so the situation is a 5570 at peak load uses between 196W and 211W. This leaves very little power for your processor and other peripherals.

Can it run it? Yes. Recommended? No.

Guru3d recommends 350W and I tend to agree with them.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5570-review/6


That's total system power dude. If you read it it specifically says

System with GPU in FULL Stress =196W

Note the word SYSTEM and that's with a Core i7 965 @ 3750 MHz. Of course you'd know that if you looked at the test setup

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November 14, 2011 4:03:21 PM

Well I'm done searching for an elusive 6670 low profile but this thread helped so much, and all my questions were answered. I really appreciate all you guy's help a lot, and thank you very much. Now i will make a thread on where to find these good low profile cards, goodbye all and once again thanks! :D  :D  :D 
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November 14, 2011 4:11:50 PM

Best answer selected by 12345690.
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November 16, 2011 3:05:48 PM

thanks for best answer :D 
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November 16, 2011 10:34:03 PM

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thanks for best answer :D 


lol no prob ;) 
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