2500k 580 GTX 230GB Revodrive MB

kevin300z

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I am building a new rig and need some MB advise.

Here is what I have:
MSI GeForce GTX580 1536 MB GDDR5 384bit PCI Express 2.0 x 16 Graphics Card N580GTX Lightning.
230GB OCZ Revodrive(the first revision of Revodrive's).
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-revodrive-pci-express-ssd.html
Ordering a i5 2500k.

After viewing this video from Asus I need PCI-E 3.0 16x to take full advantage of my Revodrive's Read: Up to 530 MB/s
Write: Up to 435 MB/s speed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Ibs9Ulgt8&feature=player_embedded
Also need 3.0 16x for my GTX580.
So with this in mind I need some advise on a great overclocking MB for my 2500k (Noctua NH-D14 cooled) that has at least 2- 3.0 PCI-E 16x both running at 16x speed. What to do, what to do...
 

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Pci-e 3.0 is on some mother boards but is not able to be used, it requires the upcoming intel chip "ivy bridge" which will fit in 1155 sockets and sport a new south bridge. The south bridge motherboards will start to be released as they are now finished production. The Ivy bridge is set to launch q1-q2 here is a link to the thread discussing ivy bridge.
 

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That is Sandy Bridge E and X79, not normal P67 or Z68. On the i5 it isn't supported. Obviously in the future, more processors will support it. Right now though it doesn't matter much/at all.
 

kevin300z

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So if I want the maximum performance out of my Revodrive using PCI-E 3.0 I shouldn't buy a i5? What is the next best option as this was a great price/performance chip for a hardcore gamer.
 

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What you should consider as my recommendation, Go with X79 w/ i7 3820 and upgrade to IvyBridge-E later in future or at the end of 2012... IvyBridge-E is a 22nm CPU and will take full advantage of it and is said to replace the current LGA 2011 CPUs when it comes out BUT it's still same socket, just CPU replacement...
 

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Sounds like a plan LegendKiller. So ASUS Rampage IV Extreme/BATTLEFIELD 3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS looks like the mother of all X79 boards?

PCI Express 3.0 x16 : 4 (dual@x16; triple@x16/x8/x16; quad@x16/x8/x8/x8)
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This is your money so if you want the best get the best. If it were my money I would stick with either the i5-2500k or i7-2600k. The extra money isn't worth it even for a hardcore gamer. On the maximum performance for the SSD, PCIE 3.0 shouldn't make a difference for a SSD, they don't take up all the bandwith anyway. It sounds like you want the best even if it doesn't offer a substantial boost though, so I don't have much to say. I guess legendkiller is right if you want the uber high end, SLI 580's and the extreme edition mobo and extreme edition i7.

From the same anandtech article.

PCIe 3.0 will likely be useful for GPU compute applications, although not so much for gaming anytime soon.

Read this. Look at the gaming FPS, and the overall score. They are very similar in gaming. (i7 vs i7 extreme)
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/523?vs=287

Than look at a i5 vs i7
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287

For gaming, they all are very similar.
 

kevin300z

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I was looking to get the best but I guess not worth the money for the return. Guess I'm back to going with a i5 2500k best overclockable Motherboard and multiple 3.0 PCI-E's running at 16x. Any suggestions?
 

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It's actually not a plan... It's just future proof... 22nm is ganna be awesome but with IvyBridgeE coming in, it's ganna likely to replace the current LGA 2011's CPUs
 

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PCIe 3.0 wont be supported by your i5 2500k... That is why IvyBridge is coming in to take the PCIe 3.0...
 

kevin300z

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How is it that people are getting amazing speed on 16x 2.0? Is it not even worth getting 3.0? 2000MB/S on PCI-E 2.0?

http://forums.storagereview.com/index.php/topic/28933-areca-1880ix-24-8x-crucial-c300-128gb/
 
That guy has a bunch of SSDs in RAID - that considerably speeds up read/write times because the information is split among the drives.

Ivy Bridge is going to be released on the current Sandy Bridge platform (P67/Z68) and should be compatible with most newer boards with a BIOS flash. IB is NOT going to be on the 2011 socket as of yet.

There are a few PCI-e 3.0 boards on the Z68 chipset from Asus and ASRock, if you really are inclined to get 3.0. However, you won't see any difference in gaming (the GTX 580 is only PCIe 2.0) and your SSD gains are marginal because PCIe 2.0 can still support ~1GBps transfer rates.
 

kevin300z

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Boiler you are correct in your statement about PCIe and graphics cards. This article goes on further to your claims.

http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/25/gtx_480_sli_pcie_bandwidth_perf_x16x16_vs_x4x4/

My question still stands on how Asus is marketing 3.0 speed and current technology and how it makes the revodrive run faster when 2.0 vs 3.0 should have no bearing, correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Ibs9Ulgt8&feature=player_embedded