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January 8, 2012 9:37:48 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month or so unless waiting longer would be beneficial

Budget Range: $1500-1750 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming(SWTOR/SC2/D3), Streaming Video to HDTV, Web Surfing, Possible Video creation and Live streaming in the future (not major factor).

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, I may be looking to upgrade my Monitor in the near future, currently using 22'' Gateway 1680x1050 but would like to upgrade to full HD or better, so any monitor suggestions would be great as well.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg or another reliable site if better prices.

Country: I live in US, but not sure where parts are manufactured

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I would prefer Intel CPU over AMD CPU, other than that I want to get the best system for my budget.

Overclocking: Yes, I plan on overclocking in the future but not right away, but I would like everything to be ready for overclocking once I decide to do it.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, depending on suggestions and budget I may start with just one GPU and add more later or get both now.

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

Additional Comments: I would like to get the best gaming system for my budget that will not need any major upgrades for at least 2-3 years and will be easy to upgrade once I need to.I had been looking on Cyberpower for builds, but was hoping to save some money by building myself. This will be my first attempt at building a rig so any input is greatly appreciated.

Below is what I pulled off Newegg but I am hoping to get better performance/price ratio with your input.

Mobo-GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU-Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case-COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED fan, 1x 140mm rear fan, 1x 230mm top fan, and 1x 230mm side fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooling-Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD-Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optic(may want to upgrade to Bluray if in budget)-ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thank you all for your help
January 8, 2012 11:31:03 PM

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I need to.I had been looking on Cyberpower for builds,


Cyberpower is really overpriced for what you get, and I haven't heard very good things about their support and RMA department.

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Cooling-Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835209054


I haven't heard very good things about this cooler and Tom's didn't give it very high marks - you should read this about liquid blocks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h2o-h80-h100-benchm...

I'd suggest a good strong air cooler instead of water for a lot of reasons.

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Mobo-GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 20d3h%20b3


If you're going to drop that kind of cash on a system I'd look at getting a better board - if you're even remotely thinking about the 7970, you'll want a board that supports PCI-e 3.0. Maybe try this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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SSD-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227726


Do not get the Agility 3. OCZ is pretty hit or miss when it comes to SSDs anyways, but this one is definitely a miss. The Crucial M4 or Samsung 830s are always the fail safe recommendations, but I keep hearing good things about the Mushkin Chronos.

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Optic(may want to upgrade to Bluray if in budget)-ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204


What I've learned about BD-R drives is that the cheap ones don't include software. The midline drives include software but it isn't very good.

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GPU-EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130587


Excellent choice, and EVGA is an awesome company but you really should consider the Radeon 7970 at this point.
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January 9, 2012 2:02:21 AM

g-unit1111 said:
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I need to.I had been looking on Cyberpower for builds,


Cyberpower is really overpriced for what you get, and I haven't heard very good things about their support and RMA department.

Quote:
Cooling-Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835209054


I haven't heard very good things about this cooler and Tom's didn't give it very high marks - you should read this about liquid blocks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h2o-h80-h100-benchm...

I'd suggest a good strong air cooler instead of water for a lot of reasons.

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Mobo-GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 20d3h%20b3


If you're going to drop that kind of cash on a system I'd look at getting a better board - if you're even remotely thinking about the 7970, you'll want a board that supports PCI-e 3.0. Maybe try this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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SSD-OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227726


Do not get the Agility 3. OCZ is pretty hit or miss when it comes to SSDs anyways, but this one is definitely a miss. The Crucial M4 or Samsung 830s are always the fail safe recommendations, but I keep hearing good things about the Mushkin Chronos.

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Optic(may want to upgrade to Bluray if in budget)-ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204


What I've learned about BD-R drives is that the cheap ones don't include software. The midline drives include software but it isn't very good.

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GPU-EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130587


Excellent choice, and EVGA is an awesome company but you really should consider the Radeon 7970 at this point.


Thank you for the input, I'm going to revise my build in the next day or two so you can let me know what you think. Also quick question about the mobo, do you think its worth it to go with the P8Z68 Deluxe versions for $260 or just get the P8Z68 Pro version for $200? I was comparing the two and the only differences I noticed were the Audio, the 2 extra USB2 and some other connections that I don't know if I would use. Do you think it's worth $60 extra for those?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 9, 2012 2:12:26 AM

Biggz_26 said:
Thank you for the input, I'm going to revise my build in the next day or two so you can let me know what you think. Also quick question about the mobo, do you think its worth it to go with the P8Z68 Deluxe versions for $260 or just get the P8Z68 Pro version for $200? I was comparing the two and the only differences I noticed were the Audio, the 2 extra USB2 and some other connections that I don't know if I would use. Do you think it's worth $60 extra for those?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


In my personal opinion it is not worth the extra $60. They look to have all the same features, just, like you said, those connections that you probably wouldn't use. If you won't use them, then you shouldn't pay for them.
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January 9, 2012 2:54:23 AM

strausd said:
In my personal opinion it is not worth the extra $60. They look to have all the same features, just, like you said, those connections that you probably wouldn't use. If you won't use them, then you shouldn't pay for them.


I agree with this. It'd be like paying money for the GPS on your car and then you don't need one.
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January 9, 2012 3:01:51 AM

Also, if you save the $60 you can then use it on something you will benefit from like a better motherboard.
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January 9, 2012 3:40:18 AM

Biggz_26 said:
Let me know what you think of this build. I'm gonna add a 7970 also but they are out of stock atm. Puts me at just under $1800 with shipping.
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?sub...

Going to that link will go to the shopping cart of whoever clicks the link. You will need to post separate links for each part.
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January 9, 2012 4:37:04 AM

strausd said:
Also, if you save the $60 you can then use it on something you will benefit from like a better motherboard.


That's generally my strategy for builds, get less of one thing and then get more of something else.
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January 9, 2012 4:39:49 AM

I agree that you should get the 7970.
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January 10, 2012 2:16:06 AM

What do you think about this build? I went with the larger 256GB SSD as I can probably use my 500GB HDD from my current computer as well. Do you think this would be a good idea? Also I have an extra GTS 450, would this work as a Phyxs Card along with the 7970? Let me know if this build would be good or if there is anything I can improve or get more performance for my money. Thanks again for the input.

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... just a place holder while out of stock, any suggestions of which version to get?
PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
optic- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cooler- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks
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January 10, 2012 3:29:09 PM

Biggz_26 said:
What do you think about this build? I went with the larger 256GB SSD as I can probably use my 500GB HDD from my current computer as well. Do you think this would be a good idea? Also I have an extra GTS 450, would this work as a Phyxs Card along with the 7970? Let me know if this build would be good or if there is anything I can improve or get more performance for my money. Thanks again for the input.

Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... just a place holder while out of stock, any suggestions of which version to get?
PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
optic- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cooler- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks


Looks much much better. A couple of things:

The first is that you don't want to overload an SSD that expensive. You're probably better off getting the 128GB if you're going to be using a secondary storage solution. You want to use your SSD mainly for boot and the main programs you'll be using. Put your Steam folder and everything else on the secondary.

The motherboard is a much better choice but the onboard DVI and VGA could cause problems if you plan to use a GPU like the 7970. If you drop the SSD to 128GB invest the difference in getting this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't really know much about that case maker but maybe try something like these as your case choice:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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