I purchased this system last week. Right now I have everything in the BIOS set to "Optimized Defaults". Is it worth overclocking, or would that just be overkill for my needs?
Approximate Purchase Date: 1/6/2012
Budget Range: Cost $1103
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming - World of Warcraft, Starcraft II. Minor video editing/photoshop/Dreamweaver
Need is always subjective. Most people here are in the free speed why not catagory. If you dont want a heat spewing electricity chewing PC that is the other side but most i7's get a 1 ghz overclock at close to stock volts so again why not. With that jump in spead it is noticible in day to day useage..
I'm not the biggest authority on OCing but I think it would be pretty severe overkill for world of warcraft and startcraft and unless minor means heavy video editing then i don't see the need
The system looks good. You could save some money by using a 2500k. My personal preference in HD would be a Samsung F3 Spinpoint. As to OCing no one has to, but we do it to get better performance. With either processor you could expect to boost the speed to 4+gh. This is a substantial boost in performance. You would see a difference in the uses you described. So in the end it is up to you.
I agree with devin93 here. That I7 will be good for at least 3 to 4 more years to come as is. But if your gonna over clock. Please don't use a stock cooler, unless ur only going maybe extremely minor (20-30 mhz). Stock coolers (depending on CPU) are not really made for OC'ing. 3.4 GHZ is plenty enough for even the most demanding scores. And with that GPU. If you wanna go out on a limb and arent gonna have multiple hardrives and extra's OC'ing your CPU and getting another GTX 560 TI for SLI will save you money down the road. Im considering Skipping Kepler and saving some money down the road and just SLI. But i dont think my FX 6100 is gonna handle it well
LOL, it is rare that anyone 'needs' to OC. Overclocking is for fun, or if you are churning out 24/7 rendering on a server or something. If everything runs up to your expectations then leave it well alone. OCing (while fun and rewarding) has a dark side of burnt out parts, instability, higher utility bills, and shortened life expectancy that nobody seems to want to talk about. If you know what you are doing, then go for it. But if you are a first time OCer then do a lot of reading, get your theory and method figured out, and then start with baby steps and move up from there as you feel comfortable. There is nothing wrong with getting a little extra performance here and there if you can... just don't go nuts with it.
However, it is my personal belief that OCing gains are largely overblown (unless buying a 1.8GHz processor and doubling your clock speed; but you can no longer do that on the Intel side), and generally if you NEED to OC your system to do what you need to do then you are better off buying a better class of hardware in the first place. Normally you are just talking a real world performance increase of 10-15%, which is not really noticeable in most applications, and is mostly good for guys who suffer from penis envy.
Thanks for the great replies so far. Am I correct that overclocking will take away lifetime from the system, or not if it's cooled properly?
OCing can shorten the life of the processor, but don't take that to mean that it necessarily will. A small OC will give you a little speed boost, and will not hurt anything at all. It is when you start upping the voltages that there is a real chance of damaging something. Also, like others have said; The stock cooler is made to cool the processor at stock settings. If you intend to OC then get an aftermarket cooler like the hyper 212+ (assuming it will fit your case), and install that before proceeding.
Like I said in the previous post, there is a lot to learn about OCing in general, and OCing on a mobo/processor in specific. So do your homework so that OCing turns into something fun and interesting, instead of a small nightmare.
lol call me when you find a game that "needs" overclocking to play it smooth and nice i don't think you need to overclock unless you want to impress people it's not needed also if you do want to overclock make sure you know what you are doing or its a nightmare you can burn your cpu i have overclocked alot of cpu's so i know how to overclock but it seems you don't so read alot before doing it and get a hyper evo 212 or the noctua but i myself prefer the hyper evo
1) Remember; CPU speed is only part of the equation on performance gain. Games will not see a big difference unless a high OC is used as Games are more limited by GPU. If program is HDD intensive then gains will be nill as A HDD is SLOWWWWWW, An SSD would speed that up, BUT still Would limit performance gain. Encoding and recompute of large spreadsheets would gain. To be noticeable the OC should be at least 15% higher before you would notice a performance gain - For CPU intensive apps.
A OC to 4.2 for a single threaded app is only a 10% increase (3.8->4.2), so NO noticable increase. For multi threaded apps the gain is 27% an would be noticable in cpu intensive apps. For single threaded apps you would really need to go to 4.5/4.6 GHz which would yield a 21% gain in single threaded apps, and a wopping 40% gain for multithreaded apps. NOTE CPU utilization is NOT a factor on performance gain, if 100% usage, you need more cores, not more speed.
As to shorting the life. With a modest 4.2 -> 4.6, Unless you are hitting low 70C or above and/or your vcore is over 1.35, the CPU will be ready to be upgraded before dieing in most cases. I have a E6400 OCed from 2.1 -> 31.2 which is still going strong and that is a OC of 2.1 -> 3.2Gigs (a 50% over OC). As to a gooler (HSF). weather I'm OCing or Not, I always buy a upper end HSH. The Cooler the BETTER.
Message edited by RetiredChief on 01-09-2012 at 07:15:56 PM
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To add a second fan to the cpu cooler. No this is not really needed either like the cooler above.
It is best to get some decent cooling for the cpu for overclocking.
You can overclock with the oem intel cooler but you will have to watch your temps.
Some have added a second fan to the oem cooler and it can be ok too.
I found that as long as you keep within a reasonable increase in voltage something like a extra 0.05volts is pretty standard, and make sure the cpu is prime 95 stable so it is not making errors. Keeping the cpu temp under 60C is also good.
1. My old athlonxp 3000+ is still working in my aunt's pc with a big all copper thermaltake cooler on it. 2.58ghz, 1.80volts, 2.16ghz/1.65volts is stock.
2. a 939-x2-4400+ 2.2/1.40volts is stock, 2.65ghz/1.45volts.
3. 939 3500+ 2.75ghz/1.50volts. 2.2ghz/1.40volts is stock.
The extra safe voltage is different for each line of cpu. The athlon xp is 130nm and the other two are 90nm, so they can take more voltage than the new cpus can.
The 3000+ and x2-4400+ have been overclocked since new.
As you can see eventually the cpu goes obsolete so you might as well enjoy it while its still current and seems fast.
It's pretty safe if you stick with a resonable voltage increase, keep it cool, and make sure it passes prime95 testing.
If the cpu is making errors if you keep using it it will burn that bad trace damaging the cpu. So making sure it's a stable error free overclock is important.
Message edited by need4speeds on 01-09-2012 at 07:21:17 PM