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January 9, 2012 3:27:44 PM

I'm planning on building a new system in a couple of weeks, My budget is about 1500 dollars, and I have an unused copy of Windows 7 Ultimate ready and waiting for install. This system will be used primarily for gaming, streaming video to a 50" hdtv, and normal email/web browsing.I might do some mild overclocking,nothing above 4ghz for the processor. I've put together what I think will be a pretty solid sytsem, but since I haven't built one in about 10 years, would like to know if anything I've chosen is a bad idea, and why. Thanks in advance for the help.

Asus DVD burner 19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Rosewill Blackhawk case 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate Barracuda 1tb 7200 rpm HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 24" monitor 199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA GTX 560ti 448 core 289.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec Neo 620w power supply, 80+ certified 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Raptor Gaming Keyboard 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Logitech g300 9 button mouse 33.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G skills Ripsaw X series ddr3 1600 (kit comes with 8 gigs, ill be buying 2 kits for a total of 16) 89.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 184.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel 2500k Sandy Bridge 219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Crucial 64g SSD, sata iii capable 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 9, 2012 3:32:54 PM

Its a great build.
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January 9, 2012 3:36:11 PM

Looks pretty good to me. My only recommendation would be to reuse an old HDD if you have one. Prices are outrageous currently and won't be dropping back to normal for quite some time. So if you have a spare or old 500gb (or whatever you think could hold you over for a few months) I would drop the 1tb you picked out and either save the money or get a bigge SSD. Other than that it looks great.
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January 9, 2012 3:38:51 PM

I would not waste 105 on crucial,get corsair force or ocz vertex 3 also 16gb is overkill for gaming,and 289.99 on a gtx 560 not worth it your stepping into 570 territory get the 570 if your going to spend $290 on the gpu,and the psu is not enough if your going to sli in the future you forgot to mention that in case you want sli you need 750-800w to be 100% safe,and if your going to do overclocking you need the hyper evo 212 you left out a few details and the dvd drive is not bluray capable theres a good one that plays blu ray 3d for $80 if you want blu ray,i also prefer this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... thats about it other than that your good
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January 9, 2012 3:41:07 PM

agree 16gb is overkill, but eventually it will be good to have. It's up to the builder in the end although I do agree with nick on that.
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January 9, 2012 3:42:04 PM

Cripple13 said:
Looks pretty good to me. My only recommendation would be to reuse an old HDD if you have one. Prices are outrageous currently and won't be dropping back to normal for quite some time. So if you have a spare or old 500gb (or whatever you think could hold you over for a few months) I would drop the 1tb you picked out and either save the money or get a bigge SSD. Other than that it looks great.


Ive got a 640g samsung in the system I'm using now, but it's about 6 years old. Figure at any time it's gonna go kaput, thats why I chose to get a new one.
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January 9, 2012 3:46:04 PM

Looks pretty good with a couple of suggestions:

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Rosewill Blackhawk case 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147107


I'm not the biggest fan of Rosewill - some of the stuff they make is good, others are downright terrible. For that price here are some better case suggestions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Antec Neo 620w power supply, 80+ certified 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371031


I'd up this to at least a 700 for a 560TI, maybe 750 if you plan to SLI. Perhaps try something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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This system will be used primarily for gaming, streaming video to a 50" hdtv, and normal email/web browsing.


If you're going to be using a 50" TV for gaming you might want to consider a Radeon 6950 - the reason being is that most NVIDIA cards don't have a native HDMI output, where this one does and it will save you tons of compatibility headaches in the long run.

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I might do some mild overclocking,nothing above 4ghz for the processor.


You'll definitely want a good cooler then - something I don't see listed. Perhaps try the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, or something like the Noctua NH-U9B.

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Looks pretty good to me. My only recommendation would be to reuse an old HDD if you have one. Prices are outrageous currently and won't be dropping back to normal for quite some time. So if you have a spare or old 500gb (or whatever you think could hold you over for a few months) I would drop the 1tb you picked out and either save the money or get a bigge SSD. Other than that it looks great.


I definitely agree with this - HD prices suck right now, and if there's anything you can reuse definitely reuse it.

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I would not waste 105 on crucial,get corsair force or ocz vertex 3


No - stick with the Crucial, those are terrible choices - especially the Vertex 3, OCZ isn't the most reliable brand of SSD on the market, same with Corsair.

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you left out a few details and the dvd drive is not bluray capable theres a good one that plays blu ray 3d for $80 if you want blu ray,


You don't need BD-R 3-D for gaming. And you certainly don't even need a 3-D monitor at that.

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agree 16gb is overkill, but eventually it will be good to have.


You really only need 16GB for high-end video editing. 8 is plenty for now. Plus you have to keep in mind that Windows 7 Home Premium has a memory limitation of 16GB and it won't recognize anything beyond that.

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289.99 on a gtx 560 not worth it your stepping into 570 territory get the 570 if your going to spend $290 on the gpu,


I actually agree with this but again definitely take a look at the 6950 if you're going to be using this on a big screen.
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January 9, 2012 3:47:50 PM

Ya that would be your call. HDD's are fairly reliable, I have several that are 10 years old and still running like brand new, but it's a gamble. They are also backup drives, not my main source for storage so I would stick with a new one if you are worried. Better safe than sorry right?
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January 9, 2012 3:49:18 PM

nick3232 said:
I would not waste 105 on crucial,get corsair force or ocz vertex 3 also 16gb is overkill for gaming,and 289.99 on a gtx 560 not worth it your stepping into 570 territory get the 570 if your going to spend $290 on the gpu,and the psu is not enough if your going to sli in the future you forgot to mention that in case you want sli you need 750-800w to be 100% safe,and if your going to do overclocking you need the hyper evo 212 you left out a few details and the dvd drive is not bluray capable theres a good one that plays blu ray 3d for $80 if you want blu ray,i also prefer this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... thats about it other than that your good

The 448 core is easily overclockable into numbers that match or beat the 570 for a little bit cheaper. I did a lot of research on the Video card. I don't plan on doing any SLI in the future, but if the need arises, I don't have an issue with upgrading the power supply when/if I do. I was seriously considering a blu ray player, but in the end decided not to because we have a blu ray home theater system and a ps3. As for the case choice, I looked at the Antec 900, and chose the rosewill over it because of the front usb 3.0 ports, and the fact that the power switch is on top. I have toddlers at home, and they see a shiny blue power button, they like to push it just to see what it does.
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January 9, 2012 3:56:41 PM

buy a 5 dollar ps/2 keyboard. I have a nice system and I got one. A keyboard is a keyboard. this way you don't have to worry about spilling on it.
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January 9, 2012 3:56:49 PM

buy a 5 dollar ps/2 keyboard. I have a nice system and I got one. A keyboard is a keyboard. this way you don't have to worry about spilling on it.
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January 9, 2012 4:00:07 PM

One thing to make sure is that your Mobo has the pin out for USB 3.0. I recently bought the NZXT Phantom (which has 3.0 on the top) but my ASRock mobo didn't have the pin for it so the port is not connected. Worst case scenario you can buy a 3.0- 2.0 adapter, but I'm not sure what they go for
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January 9, 2012 4:00:42 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Looks pretty good with a couple of suggestions:

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Rosewill Blackhawk case 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147107


I'm not the biggest fan of Rosewill - some of the stuff they make is good, others are downright terrible. For that price here are some better case suggestions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Antec Neo 620w power supply, 80+ certified 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371031


I'd up this to at least a 700 for a 560TI, maybe 750 if you plan to SLI. Perhaps try something like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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This system will be used primarily for gaming, streaming video to a 50" hdtv, and normal email/web browsing.


If you're going to be using a 50" TV for gaming you might want to consider a Radeon 6950 - the reason being is that most NVIDIA cards don't have a native HDMI output, where this one does and it will save you tons of compatibility headaches in the long run.

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I might do some mild overclocking,nothing above 4ghz for the processor.


You'll definitely want a good cooler then - something I don't see listed. Perhaps try the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, or something like the Noctua NH-U9B.

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Looks pretty good to me. My only recommendation would be to reuse an old HDD if you have one. Prices are outrageous currently and won't be dropping back to normal for quite some time. So if you have a spare or old 500gb (or whatever you think could hold you over for a few months) I would drop the 1tb you picked out and either save the money or get a bigge SSD. Other than that it looks great.


I definitely agree with this - HD prices suck right now, and if there's anything you can reuse definitely reuse it.

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I would not waste 105 on crucial,get corsair force or ocz vertex 3


No - stick with the Crucial, those are terrible choices - especially the Vertex 3, OCZ isn't the most reliable brand of SSD on the market, same with Corsair.

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you left out a few details and the dvd drive is not bluray capable theres a good one that plays blu ray 3d for $80 if you want blu ray,


You don't need BD-R 3-D for gaming. And you certainly don't even need a 3-D monitor at that.

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agree 16gb is overkill, but eventually it will be good to have.


You really only need 16GB for high-end video editing. 8 is plenty for now. Plus you have to keep in mind that Windows 7 Home Premium has a memory limitation of 16GB and it won't recognize anything beyond that.

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289.99 on a gtx 560 not worth it your stepping into 570 territory get the 570 if your going to spend $290 on the gpu,


I actually agree with this but again definitely take a look at the 6950 if you're going to be using this on a big screen.


Maybe I'm mistaken, but from what I understood reading about the motherboard chipset, you wouldn't even use the cards video outs. It has the Lucid Logix Virtu capability, so i could use the hdmi out on the board. I'd really like to stay away from amd cards if at all possible, I play City of Heroes, and CoH and AMD drivers just do not get along well.
I'm gonna drop 8 gigs of ram and go with the Antec 1100 case, thanks for the link. It has everything I wanted.
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January 9, 2012 4:00:55 PM

buy a 5 dollar ps/2 keyboard. I have a nice system and I got one. A keyboard is a keyboard. this way you don't have to worry about spilling on it.
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January 9, 2012 4:07:38 PM

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You don't need BD-R 3-D for gaming. And you certainly don't even need a 3-D monitor at that.


I was just saying he was considering it but he has a blu ray player at home also its the cheapest one not my fault it has 3d capabilities i was thinking he maybe wanted to try it out in the future also its the cheapest blu ray player from a reputable brand and my mistake on the ssd samsung and crucial and intel are more reliable but ocz has more preformance so its preformance vs reliability
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January 9, 2012 4:09:49 PM

jnlp31 said:
The 448 core is easily overclockable into numbers that match or beat the 570 for a little bit cheaper. I did a lot of research on the Video card. I don't plan on doing any SLI in the future, but if the need arises, I don't have an issue with upgrading the power supply when/if I do. I was seriously considering a blu ray player, but in the end decided not to because we have a blu ray home theater system and a ps3. As for the case choice, I looked at the Antec 900, and chose the rosewill over it because of the front usb 3.0 ports, and the fact that the power switch is on top. I have toddlers at home, and they see a shiny blue power button, they like to push it just to see what it does.


The Antec 900 isn't a good choice - it's one I used to own and it has no cable management or any way to install aftermarket coolers without removing the motherboard first. Definitely go with the 1100 - it's a much better choice.

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but from what I understood reading about the motherboard chipset, you wouldn't even use the cards video outs. It has the Lucid Logix Virtu capability, so i could use the hdmi out on the board. I'd really like to stay away from amd cards if at all possible, I play City of Heroes, and CoH and AMD drivers just do not get along well.


Interesting. Most software and games aren't GPU specific. I've never heard of games conflicting with different drivers before.
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January 9, 2012 4:15:38 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Interesting. Most software and games aren't GPU specific. I've never heard of games conflicting with different drivers before.


From the CoH forums, everyone has big issues with AMD drivers, having to use outdated drivers to work well on CoH. It's an openGL game, that has a lot of issues, but still fun to play :-)
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January 9, 2012 4:22:37 PM

jecho said:
buy a 5 dollar ps/2 keyboard. I have a nice system and I got one. A keyboard is a keyboard. this way you don't have to worry about spilling on it.


The keyboard I linked has the ability to register 6 button presses at once, which comes in handy for the MMO's I play.
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January 9, 2012 4:28:45 PM

jnlp31 said:
I'm pretty stuck on EVGA as the card brand, their step up program is going to be really awesome since the 6 series cards should be coming out any time now.


EVGA makes some sweet cards, they're all I recommend for NVIDIA.
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January 9, 2012 4:39:07 PM

nick3232 said:
http://www.valleyseek.com/evga-012-p3-1571-kr-evga-012-... agree with choosing evga forgot about their step up program!


GTX 560ti 448 core specs:

NVIDIA
Core Clock:
797MHz
Shader Clock:
1594MHz
Stream Processors:
448 Processor Cores
Effective Memory Clock:
3900MHz
DirectX:
DirectX 11
OpenGL:
OpenGL 4.2
HDMI:
1 x HDMI

GTX 570 specs:
NVIDIA
Core Clock:
732MHz
Shader Clock:
1464MHz
Stream Processors:
480 Processor Cores
Effective Memory Clock:
3800MHz
DirectX:
DirectX 11
OpenGL:
OpenGL 4.1
HDMI:
1 x mini HDMI

And the 570 is about 50 bucks more. This isn't a normal gtx 560 :-) With no overclocking whatsoever, it falls just short of the 570 in benchmarks(about 10%) and is ahead of the 6950 by about the same amount.
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January 9, 2012 4:50:39 PM

Cripple13 said:
Ya that would be your call. HDD's are fairly reliable, I have several that are 10 years old and still running like brand new, but it's a gamble. They are also backup drives, not my main source for storage so I would stick with a new one if you are worried. Better safe than sorry right?


That was exactly my thought, plus the fact I'd have to throw my old ide 80g in this one(which is going to be my wife's computer), dunno if she'd like that too much.
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January 9, 2012 4:52:31 PM

I believe there are IDE to SATA adapters available. :p 
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