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January 9, 2012 6:18:08 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: next weekend

Budget Range: £2000-£2200 or $3000-$3400 After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming (FSX, Skyrim, BF3, Civ V, Minecraft), video editing and 1080p video rendering,text editing, internet.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse THIS BUILD INCLUDES 2 MONITORS!

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: scan.co.uk (£100 = $154.21)

Country: United Kingdom

Parts Preferences: Intel S-B CPU, looking at a single 7970 or dual 7950, I prefer ATI cards, Thermaltake Level 10 GT Case

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 3840x1080 (Dual 1920x1080)

Additional Comments: (needs to be able to run Skyrim/BF3/FSX on at least high)

More about : build 3000 gaming

January 9, 2012 6:27:19 PM

I had a good build for you, but stupid computer decided to tell me this page doesn't exist... Will edit this post in a few.
January 9, 2012 6:32:06 PM

k, thanks
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January 9, 2012 6:44:08 PM

EDIT: OMG, I'm so sorry. I totally forgot you are in the UK!
January 9, 2012 6:45:16 PM

Thanks, I will try to find the parts on scan.co.uk, ut what about the case and mobo?
January 9, 2012 6:46:11 PM

Oops, forgot to include those, but it should be under $2000 USD still.
I messed up previous post. I totally forgot you were in the UK.
January 9, 2012 8:24:37 PM

gooseta said:
Approximate Purchase Date: next weekend

Budget Range: £2000-£2200 or $3000-$3400 After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming (FSX, Skyrim, BF3, Civ V, Minecraft), video editing and 1080p video rendering,text editing, internet.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse THIS BUILD INCLUDES 2 MONITORS!

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: scan.co.uk (£100 = $154.21)

Country: United Kingdom

Parts Preferences: Intel S-B CPU, looking at a single 7970 or dual 7950, I prefer ATI cards, Thermaltake Level 10 GT Case

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 3840x1080 (Dual 1920x1080)

Additional Comments: (needs to be able to run Skyrim/BF3/FSX on at least high)

your only looking to game on one screen right? for 1920x1080p a single 7950 will max out all of those games. i would look into a tri monitor setup with your budget. 2 7970's or 2 7950's will suffice (the latter is most likely enough). this is amd eyefinity- http://promos.asus.com/US/Eyefinity/index.htm .
January 10, 2012 2:42:32 PM

Here is my current parts list, I don't have room for a tri-mon setup, does dual-mon work?

Case : ThermalTake Level 10 GT Visionary
CPU : Intel Core i7 2600K
Cooler : Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 CPU Cooler
MOBO : Asus P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3
Gfx : Waiting for the 7950s to come out, current selection is an XFX 7970
HDD : 3TB Seagate ST33000651AS Barracuda XT
SSD :o CZ Agility 3 120GB SSD
PSU : Corsair CMPSU-1200AXUK (1200W)
Monitors : (2X) 21.5" Dell P2211H Widescreen LED Monitor
Optical Drive: SATA DVDRW IHAS122-18 LiteOn
OS : W7 Professional OEM

Cost : About $3,200

I am thinking of getting 2x 7950s, I need advice tho/

January 10, 2012 3:14:48 PM

Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz Socket 1155 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor

£246.75

Coolermaster HAF X Case

£134.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional w/SP1 - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 32-bit - English

£106.32

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo (Sockel 775/1155/1156/1366/AM2/AM3/AM3+/FM1)

£27.40

Asus Maximus III Gene Republic of Gamers P55 Socket 1156 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard

£157.66

Seagate 3TB 3.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Barracuda XT Hard Drive - 7200RPM 64MB Cache

£254.99
Crucial 128GB 2.5" M4 SSD SATA-III 6Gb/s - Read 415MB/s Write 175MB/s

£139.98

Corsair TX 850W V2 PSU - 80plus Bronze Certified

£107.87

LiteOn IHAS122-18 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black

£13.77
Samsung S22A300H LCD LED Full HD 21.5" HDMI Monitor x2

£109.98

£219.96

PowerColor HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI Dual Mini DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card

£444.98
January 10, 2012 3:18:50 PM

crucial has better preformance and more reliable also i recommend not to get 3tb cause of the floods in thailands prices are skyrocketing reuse your old one or something how about a best answer please? :bounce:  :p 
January 10, 2012 3:23:15 PM

That's a socket 1156 mobo, not a socket 1155
January 10, 2012 3:33:12 PM

Anyone have advice for me?
January 10, 2012 3:52:05 PM

I would say the same about the 3TB drive, skip it for now, prices are way too high at the moment, also, you would be better off getting 2x2 TB and doing RAID1 (mirrored), but wait until the prices come down.

Also, those tiny monitors? Are they even HD capable? If you are going to put that kind of hardware, and those cards, which I am certain are HD, in my opinion, I would get a HD flatscreen TV, either 32inch, or 2 even, and you will get much better performance. You also get the benefit of dual purpose monitor and TV.

I only say this because I have one sapphire HD6970 (soon to be two) running into my Samsung 55inch LED HD TV, and it looks great.
January 10, 2012 3:54:52 PM

Look. The monitors are 1920x1080 :p  :p  :p 
I am not doing RAID or that kind of ***.
22" is not tiny.
I have a TV, I don't need another one.
January 10, 2012 4:14:26 PM

You asked for advice, no reason to get smart about it. I asked if the monitors are HD, I did not know. If you are not doing RAID, that is your choice, was mine also for many years, until I lost data. Doing RAID, I have protection against DATA loss from drive failures. It is a matter of personal preference whether you use it or not, but having experienced data loss, I would recommend it if you have important information you can't afford to lose. If you don't, that is your business.

Going back to the monitors, since that seems to be a point of contention with you, I would bet dollars to donuts that they have DVI hook-ups, and being 1920x1080 still does not tell me if they are HD. And if they are, would that be interlace or progressive? And 22 inches is tiny, but that is relative, to you, maybe they are HUGE. I would giggle if I put all that money into a machine, to have a near laptop size monitor to watch it on. Again, matter of personal preference. When you ask for "any advice", you should expect advice on your entire post, and not get uppity about the advice you are given. You can take the advice, or leave it, just do so kindly, having a crap attitude to those trying to help, is not exactly the best way to go about things.

Lastly, I may be new to this forum, but I am no spring chicken. 41 years old, former Army 19D, Cavalry Scout, and I have built my own systems for about 7 years. I am not up with the latest and greatest, so I came to ask advice too, and I am humbled when ANYONE takes the time to offer some. Learn that word, because you need it.





gooseta said:
Look. The monitors are 1920x1080 :p  :p  :p 
I am not doing RAID or that kind of ***.
22" is not tiny.
I have a TV, I don't need another one.

January 10, 2012 4:16:53 PM

anyone with actual advice?
January 10, 2012 4:48:31 PM

Again, you took my advice, looked at your Dell monitors, realized they only took DVI, and went to something bigger, with HDMI inputs, and then smarty, arrogantly asked for real advice. You know what my "mates" from the UK would call you? Sounds like another "jack jones" night for you mate. Pathetic, I hope your system crashes...........the word they would call you, sounds like " too what", just say it faster.


Oh, and what exactly do you plan to do with your sound there skippy? If you don't know already, the video cards you plan to buy have audio pass through on the HDMI cable, so if you used a TV, you would have both sound and picture, from one HDMI cable. You don't even mention sound card, or audio at all, so either you are deaf, or you have no clue what it is you are trying to do.





gooseta said:
changed monitors to two of these
https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/AOC+24%22+E2450SWH...
January 10, 2012 5:04:23 PM

I will use onboard audio for the time being. I changed because there was a deal on aria on them, but i am perfectly happy with dvi mons
January 10, 2012 5:23:32 PM

Well enjoy your Lamborghini engine, with your Yugo body.............All that hardware, wasted on tiny screens, dual monitors, and onboard audio going to what? 2channel boom box? The point I am making, and you are spending a lot more money than I did on my system, yet I will assure you, that I will get a whole lot more out of mine, based on my utilization. Why you want dual monitors (maybe one for playing, the other for maps)I don't know. But for the price of two of those, you could get ONE BIG TV on another site/store.

Anyway, your system, your choice. I tried to be helpful, and again, you can take my advice, or leave it, does not matter to me. Again, when I am playing my games, on a 55inch LED HD TV in 3D mode, with my HDMI doing what it is purpose built to do, and I have 7.1 channels of love coming out of my yamaha receiver, I will think back to the hardware you bought, the money you burned, and the under-utilization you have chosen to do, and have a giggle. I wish I had 79xx video cards in my system, I wish I had the i7k, but I will still get more out of what I got, then you ever will. Going big on the inside of the machine, means very little if you intend to stay small on the outside. Why not convert the video to coaxial analog, and put it on a nice 15inch CRT round face monitor, with two of those white little speakers at either side of the desk........that would be the beeees neeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz





gooseta said:
I will use onboard audio for the time being. I changed because there was a deal on aria on them, but i am perfectly happy with dvi mons

January 10, 2012 5:45:38 PM

check out the Creative Audigy SE Sound CArd!
January 10, 2012 6:37:35 PM

chill out gooseta i actually gave you nice advice also my mistake on socket 1156 misread and don't think i am a noob i know the different between 1156 and 1155
January 11, 2012 12:13:44 AM

gooseta said:
Here is my current parts list, I don't have room for a tri-mon setup, does dual-mon work?

Case : ThermalTake Level 10 GT Visionary
CPU : Intel Core i7 2600K
Cooler : Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 CPU Cooler
MOBO : Asus P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3
Gfx : Waiting for the 7950s to come out, current selection is an XFX 7970
HDD : 3TB Seagate ST33000651AS Barracuda XT
SSD :o CZ Agility 3 120GB SSD
PSU : Corsair CMPSU-1200AXUK (1200W)
Monitors : (2X) 21.5" Dell P2211H Widescreen LED Monitor
Optical Drive: SATA DVDRW IHAS122-18 LiteOn
OS : W7 Professional OEM

Cost : About $3,200

I am thinking of getting 2x 7950s, I need advice tho/

are you saying that you want to play games on the two monitors at one time creating a 3840x1080 resolution? it will not work because the bezels will be right in the middle of your picture. in games like bf3 you wont be able to see the sights on your gun. :(  . Why wont it fit? is there not enough space for the stands of the 3 monitors because you can get something like this- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scanfx-ts743a-triple-mon...!-

drop the 3tb hdd. hdd prices are ridiculous right now. stick with a 1tb and get more when the prices drop.
you only need 850w for dual 7970's. and for dual 7950's you probably need only a 750w psu.
that is pretty good considering a 7950 will perform close to a 580
January 11, 2012 2:44:54 AM

monitor stand- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scanfx-ts743a-triple-mon...!- 165

samsung 21.5" 2ms monitors- http://www.ebuyer.com/318329-samsung-s22a300h-lcd-led-f... 330

did you read this thread i put it in a post above- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...
i said this-
Quote:
with a multiple monitor setup you want to run both 7970's (you are getting 2 right? it would be around 1100$ or so.) at x16. for larger resolutions it will make a significant difference.

ASRock Z68 Extreme7 (270$) + i5 2500k (220$) + Long Crossfire Bridge (~10$)- it has to go from the 1st pcie slot to the 4th so that the cards actually run at x16 = 500$

ASRock X79 Extreme3 (215$) + i7 3820 (285$) no need for long crossfire bridge here. I don't even know if the one posted above will be long enough = 500$

you have to wait a little while until the 3820 comes out and you will have to wait if you go with the 7950's (you didnt specify which 7xxx series card) . both should be out in early February.

even though the cpu multiplier on the 3820 only goes to 43x it can still be overclocked way past 4.3ghz as shown in this article- http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276 [...] y-bridge-e

So lets recap. at the same price you can get an z68 x16/x16 solution as you can a X79 x16/x16 solution. The X79 solution also comes with a more powerful processor. For X79 you need quad channel ram but since you think you will go with g-unit1111's build it lookss like it doesnt matter because it includes quad channel ram. Seems like the only downfall to the x79 solution is that the i7 3820 is coming out in February. a4mula is not crazy.


-note these prices are in dollars and for the 7950's I recommend the same thing.
-it ends up to be 411 british pounds sterling for the z68 solution and about 400 british pounds sterling for the X79 solution
-a single 7970 should be ok for now if you cannot afford 2 7950's.
January 11, 2012 3:17:54 AM

Dude, you have been very kind and helpful to this guy, and I have not seen him thank you once. Have you read his replies to others, especially me, on this post? If ever I have seen an ingrate, this guy is it. He does not want to hear anything outside his scope of knowledge or intellect, or he goes batty. I applaud you for your efforts in helping him, but they are probably falling on deaf ears. Anyway, I am done offering advice to a guy that does not appreciate the time and effort put in by strangers to help him out. If you continue to do so, you have much more patience than I will ever have again, I lost that many years ago, and it is people like him, that drove patience out of me. Good luck, you have offered good advice, wish you had not told him about the 2 monitors not working, would have been more fun for him to find out on his own, when the could not look down the iron sights of his M4 :) 




So lets recap. at the same price you can get an z68 x16/x16 solution as you can a X79 x16/x16 solution. The X79 solution also comes with a more powerful processor. For X79 you need quad channel ram but since you think you will go with g-unit1111's build it lookss like it doesnt matter because it includes quad channel ram. Seems like the only downfall to the x79 solution is that the i7 3820 is coming out in February. a4mula is not crazy.[/quote]

-note these prices are in dollars and for the 7950's I recommend the same thing.
-it ends up to be 411 british pounds sterling for the z68 solution and about 400 british pounds sterling for the X79 solution
-a single 7970 should be ok for now if you cannot afford 2 7950's.[/quotemsg]
January 11, 2012 3:29:00 PM

mjmjpfaff said:
monitor stand- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scanfx-ts743a-triple-mon...!- 165

samsung 21.5" 2ms monitors- http://www.ebuyer.com/318329-samsung-s22a300h-lcd-led-f... 330

did you read this thread i put it in a post above- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...
i said this-
Quote:
with a multiple monitor setup you want to run both 7970's (you are getting 2 right? it would be around 1100$ or so.) at x16. for larger resolutions it will make a significant difference.

ASRock Z68 Extreme7 (270$) + i5 2500k (220$) + Long Crossfire Bridge (~10$)- it has to go from the 1st pcie slot to the 4th so that the cards actually run at x16 = 500$

ASRock X79 Extreme3 (215$) + i7 3820 (285$) no need for long crossfire bridge here. I don't even know if the one posted above will be long enough = 500$

you have to wait a little while until the 3820 comes out and you will have to wait if you go with the 7950's (you didnt specify which 7xxx series card) . both should be out in early February.

even though the cpu multiplier on the 3820 only goes to 43x it can still be overclocked way past 4.3ghz as shown in this article- http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276 [...] y-bridge-e

So lets recap. at the same price you can get an z68 x16/x16 solution as you can a X79 x16/x16 solution. The X79 solution also comes with a more powerful processor. For X79 you need quad channel ram but since you think you will go with g-unit1111's build it lookss like it doesnt matter because it includes quad channel ram. Seems like the only downfall to the x79 solution is that the i7 3820 is coming out in February. a4mula is not crazy.


-note these prices are in dollars and for the 7950's I recommend the same thing.
-it ends up to be 411 british pounds sterling for the z68 solution and about 400 british pounds sterling for the X79 solution
-a single 7970 should be ok for now if you cannot afford 2 7950's.


No, I literally don't have room on my desk. By dual mons I meant like surfing on one mon and running programs on another. Thanks for your help, but will playing games on one mon and doing stuffs on others work?
January 11, 2012 3:30:41 PM

Also, is the Agility any good? (OCZ SSD)
January 11, 2012 3:39:00 PM

Sorry for the triple post, but how will i connect two mons? The 7970 only has 1 HDMI output...
January 11, 2012 8:50:56 PM

why are you replying angaddev? you are not gooseta.
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