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January 11, 2012 11:20:57 AM

Hello everyone! This is my first time building a gaming computer and I am very new to this. The problem with me is that I am just picking parts randomly without knowing if they will support each other. Hopefully you can help me and thanks in advance!!!! :D 

Approximate Purchase Date: In the following 2 weeks!

Budget Range: $1000 - $1500~

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, office works

Parts Not Required: Monitor, mouse, keyboard

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.mwave.com.au/

Country: Australia

Parts Preferences: Intel for CPU

Overclocking: no

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

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I would like to build a gaming computer that would run the latest games (e.g. Skyrim) on the market, as well as upcoming games at medium-high settings. So far with my friend's help and a days of research I have arrived with a build but still unsure if it is able to run smoothly on games or whether the parts are suitable for each other. The prices are all in AUSD.

Case: Thermaltake V9 Mid Tower Case with Window, SECC Material, 5.25"/3.5" Drive Bays, USB/Audio, ATX, No Power Supply, Black (VJ40001W2Z) [$106.30]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-16010774-Thermaltake_V9_Mid...

CPU:Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked Processor - 3.30GHz - Quad Core - Socket LGA1155 - 95W TDP - 4x256KB L2 / 6MB L3 Cache - Intel HD Graphics 3000 - Boxed - Sandy Bridge (BX80623I52500K) [$244.90]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-19010218-Intel_Core_i5_2500...

Motherboard:ASRock Z68 EXTREME3 GEN3 Motherboard - Intel Socket LGA1155 - Intel Z68 Chipset - 4x DDR3-2133 - 2x PCIe x16, 2x PCIe x1 & 2x PCI - 2x SATA3 & 4x SATA2 - 2x USB3.0 - D-Sub, DVI & HDMI - 7.1 Channel Audio - Gigabit LAN - ATX [$136.60]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-28023611-ASRock_Z68_EXTREME...

Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws-X 8GB(2x 4GB) Memory Kit - 240pin DIMM - PC3-17000 - 2133MHz - CL11-11-11-30-2N - 1.5v - Unbuffered - Non-ECC (F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL) [$87.50]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37140871-G_Skill_Ripjaws-X_...(2x_4GB)_Memory_Kit_-_240pin_DIMM_-_PC3-17000_-_2133MHz_-_C

Graphics card:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card - DDR5 1GB 256 Bit VRAM - Core Clock 900 Mhz - Memory Clock 4000 Mhz - PCI-Express 2.0 - 2 x DVI - 1 x Mini-HDMI - HDCP - SLI Ready - DirectX 11 (GV-N560OC-1GI) [$279.10]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-42050905-Gigabyte_GeForce_G...

HDD:Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive [$108.80]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22040425-Western_Digital_Ca...

Optical drive:LG CH10LS20 BluRay Combo,10XBD-R,16xDVD, BD-R/RE SL/25GB and DL/50GB Light Scribe Direct Labl Prt Tech - Retail Version (CH10LS20.AYBR10B) [$66.70]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-17090020-LG_CH10LS20_BluRay...


Power supply:Cooler Master Extreme Power 650W Power Supply (RS650-PCARE3) [$104.60]
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-34040407-Cooler_Master_Extr...(RS650-PCARE3)

In total they are approximately $1.3k including Win7 operating system. I realize the prices might be much dearer than those of newegg's but the store I am buying it from is much more convenient for me. Of course I would prefer if there are a more cheaper build which will work equivalently well so please give me suggestions to parts that I should change!

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January 11, 2012 11:32:59 AM

you need at least 750 w Psu, and Coolermaster is not a good psu brand, The Silentpower Series of Coolermaster are the only good ones, go Antec or Corsair.
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January 11, 2012 11:53:54 AM

Nothing wrong with Cooler Master, or the Wattage. 650 is more than enough on one card.
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January 11, 2012 12:18:25 PM

For the base setup I would agree that a 650W PSU is more than adequate. However, if you want to overclock or expand your setup later (ie. SLI) then you might want to invest in a larger, high-quality PSU now. It all depends of your needs.

You also might want to pick up a SSD, the performance increase for the price is astounding. Use the SSD for productivity applications and Windows, and use the HDD for movies, music, games, etc.

I would also suggest DDR3-1600 RAM, it is much cheaper and the performance increase you will notice with the DDR3-2133 is negligible.
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January 11, 2012 1:03:00 PM

I would get Crucial RAM instead and an XFX PSU instead.

Corsair and OCZ RAM have high failure rates and G.Skill has been trending up lately. Kingston and Crucial always have rock bottom failure rates.

XFX made by Seasonic is just 10x better than the same wattage PSU from Cooler Master and other generic brands.

Otherwise everything seems to check out.
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January 11, 2012 3:07:09 PM

That Cooler master PSU SUCKS by the way :D  so as it was mentioned up there and if you plan to SLI you need a 750W or more if you want to and go with brands like XFX (as mentioned above) Corsair,Seasonic or Antec
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January 11, 2012 11:48:41 PM

Thanks for everyone's contribution and help! So I have made some changes to the build, please have a look:

Memory: G.Skill RipJaws 8GB (2x 4GB) Dual Channel DDR3 Memory - PC3-12800 (1600MHz) - 240-pin DIMM - Non-ECC - Unbuffered - CL 9-9-9-24-2N (F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL)
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37140549-G_Skill_RipJaws_8G...(2x_4GB)_Dual_Channel_DDR3_Memory_PC3_12800_(1600MHz)_240_pi

PSU: Antec TruePower New Series TP-750 750W Power Supply - ATX12V/EPS12V - 80+ BRONZE Certified - Modular - NVIDIA SLI Ready Certified - 5 Years Warranty (TP-750)
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-34040443-Antec_TruePower_Ne...

Unfortunately the the Crucial RAM suggested by Raiddinn is way to expensive from mwave, so I have to stick with the G-Skill :(  .

Questions:
1. Can this build handle high settings on shooter games (e.g. BF3) with a relatively high fps?

2. Do I really need 750W as suggested? If not what do you guys think of:
XFX P1-650S-NLB9 650W Core Edition Power Supply - ATX/EPS - Silent 135mm Fan - Active PFC - 80 Plus Bronze - Black
http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-34040674-XFX_P1_650S_NLB9_6...

3. Is it worth it to spend another $100 to get GTX 570?
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January 12, 2012 1:00:24 AM

The XFX 650w is one of the best in its class.

That being said, I wouldn't try to SLI x2 560 TIs with it or something. If you can live without SLIing then by all means take the 650w. If you want the SLI, though, I would get the 750w.

Also, its probably worth it to get the 570 if you want more than a 560ti will give you because it is up to 25% better and doesn't require hundreds of extra watts or cooling problems either.

The 570 would work just fine with the xfx 650w.
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January 12, 2012 1:57:18 AM

Just Stick to the 750w psu, and get another Gtx 560 ti in the Future, I have 2 Gtx 560 ti on sli and I play Metro 2033 Maxed at 1900x1200 with 30 to 45 fps. On Bf3 I get 120 Fps and with alot of explosions i get 70 -60 fps.
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January 12, 2012 5:49:40 AM

Alright! Thanks everyone for taking their time and helping me, as I was pretty clueless :D . I appreciate all the posts and help given. Awesome community!
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January 12, 2012 5:50:12 AM

Best answer selected by JustK.
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