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November 15, 2011 3:56:30 AM

WHICH WOULD BE THE BETTER GRAPHICS CARD?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I LIKE THE SECOND BETTER BUT IM A COMPUTER BUILDING NOOB dont worry abt rest of my system i just need help on this

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a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:03:45 AM

The only difference is the factory OC on the second one. You could probably OC the first one to the same speeds as the second, but the factory OC cards are generally guaranteed to be stable at those higher clocks, and may have higher headroom when overclocking.
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:04:50 AM

Also, the factory OC one has a non-reference cooler so it most likely has better cooling performance.
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November 15, 2011 4:16:07 AM

So, the second ones better?
November 15, 2011 4:20:04 AM

the one with the sword on it?
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:23:02 AM

Oops I got those backwards, the first one is the factory OC one. The more expensive blue one is better in terms of factory speeds.
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:23:41 AM

Also, what system are you putting this in? What is your power supply brand/model?
November 15, 2011 4:27:16 AM

these are the differences i saw thats why i asked which i should get
1st 1
Effective Memory Clock
1280MHz (5.12Gbps)
Core Clock
840MHz

2nd 1
Effective Memory Clock
1250MHz (5.0Gbps)
Core Clock
800MHz
November 15, 2011 4:29:33 AM

tower:Rosewill THOR V2-White Edition tower

power:Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ...

Ram:
500658-B21 - HP 8GB (1X8GB) Dual Rank X4 PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) Registered CAS-9
times 4

mother board: Gigabyte A75M-UD2H AMD Socket FM1 for AMD Llano CPU, HDMI, Dual Graphic Micro ATX Motherboard

processor: AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:30:15 AM

Yeah, the only difference is the first one has a factory overclock (OC), which means it's faster at stock settings. Although you can overclock the second one to 840mhz and 1280mhz, the first one will generally be more stable at those clocks. Also, the first one has a better cooling system on it compared to the second, which looks like a standard cooler.
November 15, 2011 4:30:35 AM

and a 160 gb ssd hard drive for the OS
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:31:37 AM

750w is plenty for a single 6970, you are good to go.
November 15, 2011 4:33:37 AM

one more ques will this ram work in my board?
500658-B21 - HP 8GB (1X8GB) Dual Rank X4 PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) Registered CAS-9
times 4
i know it will take the gb amount i just want to be sure im not buying incompatable parts
November 15, 2011 4:49:56 AM

i like the 32gb they are $95.41 a stick x 4 =381.64 + $6.16 shipping
i didnt think that was bad as long as they will work in my board
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 4:54:15 AM

$380 for 32gb of RAM is only reasonable on a pure workstation system. On a gaming system, even 8gb is overkill at the moment, so 16gb will last you a long, long, long time.

So $380 for 32gb of RAM which you probably won't even use a quarter of.
or $90 for 16gb RAM which you will probably not ever fully use in the next 5+ years at least.
or $45 for 8gb of RAM which you won't fully use for a couple years from now at least.
November 15, 2011 5:03:47 AM

ill take your opinion on ram into consideration but you didnt answer wether it is compatable with my board
November 15, 2011 5:05:19 AM

the gigabyte is a bit too costly compared to the one i have selected my tower has great cooling capabilities

my current system is running a nvidia fx 5500 256mb scary hua?
November 15, 2011 5:15:56 AM

im only putting about $1500 into this computer
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 5:18:06 AM

Yes, basically all DDR3 RAM is basically compatible with your motherboard, doesn't matter the brand.

A Nvidia FX 5500? So is this a workstation PC or a gaming PC, I'm still not sure...
November 15, 2011 5:23:54 AM

the nvidia fx 5500 is what i have now it was a gamiing machine in its day im building a new system from the ground up
November 15, 2011 5:33:09 AM

no it is the scary older one
November 15, 2011 5:35:22 AM

so im due for this upgrade
November 15, 2011 5:43:58 AM

not bad but iv spent the last 3 months researching what i want

power:Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ... 89.99

Ram:
500658-B21 - HP 8GB (1X8GB) Dual Rank X4 PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) Registered CAS-9
times 4 380.00

mother board: Gigabyte A75M-UD2H AMD Socket FM1 for AMD Llano CPU, HDMI, Dual Graphic Micro ATX Motherboard 94.99

processor: AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz 139.99

about 300 in graphics

160gb ssd 120.00
640gb hard drive 45.00
blue ray burner 67.99
monitor 59.99 (22inch)
speakers bose companion 2 49.99
tower 169.99
November 15, 2011 5:45:09 AM

pluse keyboard mouse headset
34.99
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 5:51:07 AM

If you want to waste $380 on RAM then by all means it's your money, but you could upgrade your 6970 to a 6990 or 2x 6970 by getting 8gb now and 8gb later, and I guarantee you won't notice any difference between 8gb and 32gb in a gaming system. But you will notice a significant difference between a 6970 and 6990, or 2x 6970 in crossfire.

Also, the motherboard you picked won't run dual graphics cards very well, it only has 16x/4x PCIe lanes...not to mention it's a micro ATX board. You do realize you're putting a micro ATX board in a full tower case right?

You should take some more time to research mate :) 
November 15, 2011 5:52:32 AM

the processor runs as a dual graphics card and yes i know thats a micro board
November 15, 2011 5:54:57 AM

AMD Radeon Dual Graphics
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a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 6:03:21 AM

That board is only compatible with an AMD fusion APU. For a high end $1500 build you don't want an APU. Like I said, check the links above for a good $1500 build, because you're way off in left field at the moment, no offense.
November 15, 2011 6:08:40 AM

my processor is a apu
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 6:10:12 AM

Then sell it and get a real $1500 computer.
November 15, 2011 6:15:31 AM

what the apu no good?
November 15, 2011 6:17:19 AM

and what is the best full size board for the apu?
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 6:18:51 AM

Again, good $1500 gaming builds are in those links.
November 15, 2011 6:20:34 AM

i am anti intel the last 3 intel processors i bought were defective i wont have anything to do with intel
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 6:22:23 AM

Intel is the best at the moment, so I can't recommend a gaming build with an AMD CPU for $1500. Very few of the new Intel chips are defective.
November 15, 2011 6:25:40 AM

i had 3 in a row a few years ago i ordereda pentium 4 and had to return them twice after that they all fcked up it finally worked on the fourth processor ever since i avoid intel
November 15, 2011 6:35:13 AM

well thanks for the help
a b U Graphics card
November 15, 2011 6:35:41 AM

No problem, good luck!
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