More buying questions...

[KanagiF]

Okay! So I had a post awhile back about wanting to buy a Q8300, I did buy it and it didn't go over well. Couldn't stream even CLOSE to what I was hoping so I'ma start aiming towards building a new computer but there is a lot of things... I was wondering if y'all would help me choose.

CPU is my main one - I would prefer a 1155 socket so it's upgradable/replaceable if I need with something. i5 and i7 still confuse me a bit (I want an i7) but from what I can understand i5 is 2 cores hyperthreaded into 4, and i7 is 4 cores hyperthreaded into 8?

I've been looking around (a lot) and I -really- want a 2600K but man that $320 price is -steep-.

My friend has an i5 770 (3.2 Intel Smart OC'd) and it runs everything I wanna do perfectly and is only $150, but I don't know. For some reason it just seems like I should aim for a 2 5/6/700K series...

ANYWAYS! my main point is asking if y'all can suggest a nicely priced 1155 (prefer) socket mobos? I'm trying to find one that preferably has 2 PCI E 2.0 (For my 560ti + another 560ti in the future) and allows 1600, and 1333 RAM (So I can use my 1333 for now, and 1600 in the future.)

I will also likely OC the CPU later so a mobo that supports it would be nice.


I looked on NewEgg and only found one mobo that met my 'fields' and it was a $230 "Thermal Plated" Mobo? Looked beasty but quite a bit of money.

 

[WR2]

Hello KanagiF

Want to think about the new Ivy Bridge CPUs that go on sale shortly?

 

[WR2]

"Thermal Plated" Mobo?
Did you mean thermal armor like this Asus Sabertooth?
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8) and 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode)

 

[KanagiF]

Yep, that's it. It looks beasty as all else, and I'm willing to bet it's insanely good for OCing, but $240 is a bit out of my reach for a mobo. To be honest, the main reason I haven't just bought the 2600K is because it's $320.

The Ivy Bridges also seem EXTREMELY interesting to me, but I worry about the price (People also said the heat is extremely high in their 'tick' phase, of the tick-tock method.)

 

[WR2]

The IB won't overclock as high as SB - and when OC'd it will be hotter - but not 'out of control' hot.
And prices should be very close to SB based on early guesstimates.
Lastest rumor is available on the 29th or 30th.

 

[WR2]

THG: Overclocking Ivy Bridge: Core i7-3770K Is A Mixed Bag
Some interesting stuff there, in spite of higher temps. Like Real-Time Core Ratio Changes

 

[abekl]

"i5 is 2 cores hyperthreaded into 4, and i7 is 4 cores hyperthreaded into 8?"

Partially correct. i5 is 4 cores with no hyperthreading. i7 is 4 cores hyperthreaded into 8.

 

[KanagiF]

So since I'm big into streaming and video editing an i7 would prove much more viable to me than an i5? I'm mostly just trying to keep price in comparison in the end. Because I mean, I go to NewEgg and I look at the 2600K and the mobo, then the RAM etc and I walk out with a $600 card when I came to only spend $300, and I die a lil'.

 

[WR2]

i5 is going to be a really strong streaming and video editing CPU.

Sure, i7 is going to be even better. But unless you earn a living doing streaming and video editing, I think you can skip spending the extra $100.

 

[KanagiF]

Why is it that the i5 770 is -so- much stronger than my Q8300? Is it literally just the 2.5GHZ vs the 3.2GHZ or is it something else? I've been looking over the Intel page for both and I don't see much besides it's 8MB cache (Which I don't know how important that even is for this.)

 

[WR2]

The 2.5GHZ vs 3.2GHZ isn't the only benefit the 770 has.
This review will help high light the changes: Core i5 750 Processor Review

 

[KanagiF]

Oh wow, I just read it. The FPS readings were nice, but a bid padded since it was OC'd to 4.2GHZ while the others weren't. However, those are -nice- results. Maybe I'll look into the 770 Lynnfield. I originally wanted to avoid the 1156 socket since it's -already- replaced, but since by the time I need to upgrade again, I'll need to upgrade everything, maybe I'll check it out.

 

[KanagiF]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128512

Good options? Pretty cheap and from what I'm reading people absolutely love the 2500K. Insanely powerful and very simple to OC. Also $100 less than my 2600K.

Also already have the bios settings to get the 2500 to 4.5GHZ without issue. And sadly, I just purchased the very nice aftermarket cooler for my current system thinking I'd need it.

 

[WR2]

The had both OC'd and standard clock benchmarks for comparison.

The bump up going from 1st Gen Core i5-750 to 2nd Gen Core i5-2500K is just about as big a bump up from C2Q Q9xxx.

 

[WR2]

That's a good CPU/MB combo.

What CPU cooler did you get?

 

[licktheenvelope]

If you wait for IB to be in stock you might see a drop in prices of the SB processors. Allready been seeing it in some places. Newegg had a disocunt on the 2700k as did NCIX (has the 2700k at $299.99 right now

 

[KanagiF]

I bought http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 for my current set-up THINKING I would need it (Which BTW that heatsink is a beast. Woke up leaving Guild Wars 2 downloading, my cores were in mid 20s. Never been that low before.)

So just going to transfer it over.

 

[WR2]

Hyper 212+ will work just fine on your Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge build.
You'll put it to good use overclocking a i5-2500K or i5-3570K

 

[KanagiF]

So you think that's a good setup also? Nice. There is a thread over on OC.net with someone showing exactly how to OC 2 5/6/700 to 4.5GHZ with a Z68 board, but I don't really think I'll need it. That thing looks straight up beasty.

 

[WR2]

What I usually recommend is to leave the CPU at stock and when it's time to upgrade the graphics card - then give your CPU an OC boost to get a CPU/GPU performance boost. That's not to say you can't go right out and OC. You just probably don't need to do it right away.

 

[licktheenvelope]

What I usually recommend is to leave the CPU at stock and when it's time to upgrade the graphics card - then give your CPU an OC boost to get a CPU/GPU performance boost. That's not to say you can't go right out and OC. You just probably don't need to do it right away.

Ya.... I have a GTX 680 to go with the 3770k i'm going to pick-up so I'm not too concerned with the graphics.

 

[KanagiF]

Oh wow, as y'all know I've decided to go with the i5 2500 for $220 because I already know how to OC It to 4.5GHZ.... BUT The Ivy Bridge is now massively out, and I saw
http://promotions.newegg.com/intel/12-1486/index.html?cm_mmc=SNC-Facebook-_-na-_-na-_-na&nm_mc=SNC-Facebook

The i5 3550 and 3450. What do y'all think? I'm not 100% familiar with Ivy Bridge, nor with it's OC potentials but if I could get a brand new 3.1(3.5)GHZ for even less....

I'm still confused about something on the i5 v i7.

i7 has 'virtual cores' so it basically has 8 cores. How, exactly, does that work?

 

[WR2]

IB is like SB - you want a K model for overclocking.
As in i5-3570K