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January 14, 2012 2:02:54 AM

Hello all,
First off I'd like to thank this community ahead of time for any advice they can give me. I've been following the build your own pc articles for a few years now and followed one of the system builds from back in '08 or so for my first shot at "building my own." Thanks to the detailed instruction and so forth my build went together and was up and running with no problems. My question is about what kind of build I should go with for my upcoming computer project. The reason Im asking for help this go around instead of just following one of the posted marathon builds is that this one will have more of a specific purpose than just gaming. I'm currently enrolled in school for a bachelors degree in modeling and simulation with the hopes of getting into video game design. I want a computer that will run all of the programs I'll be using (3d studio max, studio express, etc.,) along with microsoft office and things of that nature. Plus of course I'd like it to run all the games currently out and coming out within a few years. I'm not looking to have maxed out settings on games as a good middle ground or above would make me perfectly happy. So an emphasis on upgrading things like the gpu and such should be taken into consideration. It will become my daily use computer but mostly will be for using the tools of game design and then of course playing games so I can keep up with whats the new hot game. Thanks again for any advice offered.
Adam

I plan on building in the next month

Budget hopefully no more than $1700 but it will be what it is and I can go over if needed

No need for a keyboard and mouse

Newegg treated me well last time and I would like to use them again but saving money at another website if possible is fine with me

Intel is preferred and between nvidia or ati is of your opinion for what I want

Overclocking if needed but lets go with no for now

SLI or Crossfire if recommended

1920x1200 would be the resolution I like to use and I would prefer to run dual monitors (a recommendation for monitors wouldnt hurt I guess)

NA is my home for purchasing parts
January 14, 2012 3:09:48 AM

if i were you id buy my stuff from pricewatch, ebay, tom's hardware, and outletpc cuz compared to them newegg is overpriced just make sure you look at the lowest prices cuz on ebay you can get a 60$ 2TB hard drive or a 270$ amd 8-core fx-8150 3.60 processor but make sure you go to all these sites and get the cheapest one out of them
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January 14, 2012 3:32:30 AM

xtremegamer2da-max said:
if i were you id buy my stuff from pricewatch, ebay, tom's hardware, and outletpc cuz compared to them newegg is overpriced just make sure you look at the lowest prices cuz on ebay you can get a 60$ 2TB hard drive or a 270$ amd 8-core fx-8150 3.60 processor but make sure you go to all these sites and get the cheapest one out of them


As the FX8150 is $270 at newegg, or $240 if you want to go oem, eBay definitely doesn't make sense. And just cause its a 2 terabyte drive doesnt make it any good. yea you can save a FEW bucks if you want to go through a ton of hassle. But newgg generally has the best prices. AND the best website and reviews. And great customer service. Amazon/Tigerdirect/Fry's/Microcenter are worth checking for a price compare.

I used to, and no several people who used to, use pricewatch. Most of their sites are extremely sketchy. Poor English, horrible website design, average store ratings, out of date sales... again, not worth the hassle unless you already know what part you want and want to try to sort through the mess of sites. if you dont know exactly what part and go off price you'll just end up with junk or checking reviews to find out its junk.
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January 14, 2012 4:11:46 AM

thats why you buy it now off ebay AND i just found anoder website which is amazon and i found the same processor for 200$ and im getting these parts for 1340$


NZXT Phantom Full Tower Gaming Case
2 Cold Cathode Neon Light
AMD FX-8150 CPU 8x 3.60GHz/8MB L2 Cache
Liquid CPU Cooling System Fan
8 GB 4 GB X2 DDR3-1600 Memory Module
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 2GB
3-Way SLI ASUS Crosshair V Formula AMD 990FX
Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface
1000 Watt Extreme Gaming Power Supply
2 TB HARD DRIVE 64M Cache 7200rpm 6.0Gb/s
24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD R RW CD-R/RW Drive
ASUS Xonar DG Sound Card
Microsoft Windows 7 ultimate 64 Bit
Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard
Cyborg R.A.T. Mouse
Razer Vespula Gaming Mouse Mat
19" LCD 1366x768 -- Sceptre X195W-Naga
15 ft. DVI to DVI Cable
2.1 Channel Stereo Subwoofer Speaker System
ASUS 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
MS Media Center Remote Control and Receiver
Logitech G13 Advanced Gameboard
Killer 2100 Network Gaming Card
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January 14, 2012 4:14:36 AM

this is why you DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT ORDER A PC FROM ALIENWARE CYBER OR IBUY POWER alienware costs 5000$ cyber and ibuy are 2250$ when you can get the same thing for 1340$ + the experience
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January 14, 2012 3:48:54 PM

Ok ill take the buying from advice into consideration now how about what parts to get please
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January 14, 2012 4:44:08 PM

well if you want an amd system you can get an amd fx-8150 (8-core 3.60) for like 200$ on outletpc or amazon probably if not like 250$ AND you can overclock it to 4.80 and you should probably get the new msi mobo or the formula V and a 2tb hard drive also an evga nvidia geforce 560 2gb or up should cover any of the new games with at least high graphics you should get from 750w to 1000w power supply you should get 8g of ram inn 2 sticks now and later on get 12g in 2 sticks and you can get a good liquid cooling system for boutt 60$
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January 14, 2012 4:45:55 PM

if you want an intel system you should probly get a i7 you should either pick the 2600 or the 2600k but i dont specialize in intel so i cant help you with mobo options for intel
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January 14, 2012 4:46:49 PM

you should get a full tower gaming case so you an have better airflowand more upgrade space
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January 14, 2012 5:07:03 PM

For what you are working you need i7 2600k , minimum 16GB ram ,video card with a lot memory, monitor with IPS pannel.Ill did this but the price is 1800$ with one monitor included.
CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MONITOR : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL : $1,801.91 without rebates.
You can lower the price if you change the video card with 560Ti 2GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... If you buy monitor with TN pannel and 1920 X 1080 resolution then you can buy 2 in place of that DELL what i recomended you. This are with TN pannel and led backlight and can buy 2 of them : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 14, 2012 5:19:36 PM

I'm not sure how CPU intensive your game design programs are, but I would go with an i7 2600k. The Intel processors leave anything AMD way in the dust now, and hyper threading makes a 4 core act like an 8.

As for case, just pick something you like, that's big enough to mount whatever video card you end up getting.

I would recommend getting an Intel board that supports Lucid Logix Virtu, this automatically swaps between the oboard video and an addon card when needed, which saves some power, and greatly improves rendering times. Asus, MSI, and ASRock make some pretty decent boards, personally i try to stick with Asus.

When you get a power supply, use the power supply wattage calculator that's built into newegg, and get a PSU that has about 100w more than it says you need, and try to get 80+ certified. Stick to brands like corsair, seasonic, and antec and you should get a good PSU for the money.

For RAM, 16gb should cover anything you need to do, and get a brand that is on the QVC list for the motherboard you select. With RAM being so cheap right now, even if it is overkill for the applications that you are using.

As for hard drive, if you don't have one sitting around, I wouldn't buy anything over a 500g currently, the prices are just outrageous. WD or Seagate are the brands you want to stick to for hard drives.

For a DVD RW, just grab a cheap asus or lite on. If you want blu ray, shop accordingly. There is currently a pretty nice LG blu ray on newegg for about 60 bucks.

For a video card, you could grab a GTX 560ti for pretty cheap right now,(about 200 bucks) and that should be great for playing most games on high settings.

As for monitors, if you can stand to go to 1920x1080 instead of 1920x1200, the cheapest monitor goes from about 300 bucks to about 120. There are many monitor options out there, but unless you absolutely need 2 monitors, I'd get something like this.


The previous poster looks like he just posted his current system, and I would highly recommend not going with it, as the 2tb hard drive is going to be super high right now, and the 8 core amd processors are just a joke compared to the intel chip that is only about 40 bucks more. Also with a single card, 750 watts is probably going to be overkill, maybe something like a 620.

Anyways I tried to give you some things to think about, and to look and research a bit for yourself. You should be able to stay in your budget fairly easily, just don't forget the operating system will cost you about 100 bucks(unless you wanna go with windows 7 pro).

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January 14, 2012 5:22:05 PM

actually youd be suprised that you can find a brand new 7200 rpm 2tb hard drive on buy it now for 15$ and no this isnt a joke
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January 16, 2012 12:56:17 AM

Ok thanks for the help I'll pull these parts and make some similar comparisons taking advice and post the result and see if I can get some more positive feedback :D  thanks alot for the help
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January 16, 2012 1:58:47 AM

but thats buy it now on ebay prices will vary
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January 17, 2012 7:33:00 PM

sosofm said:
For what you are working you need i7 2600k , minimum 16GB ram ,video card with a lot memory, monitor with IPS pannel.Ill did this but the price is 1800$ with one monitor included.
CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MONITOR : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL : $1,801.91 without rebates.
You can lower the price if you change the video card with 560Ti 2GB : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... If you buy monitor with TN pannel and 1920 X 1080 resolution then you can buy 2 in place of that DELL what i recomended you. This are with TN pannel and led backlight and can buy 2 of them : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Hey thanks a lot for the build, I re-posted to see if anyone had thoughts on it and pretty much all the feedback was that it was a solid build. The only question I have is that some thought that 16gb of RAM was too much and that RAM might work better if the slots aren't all full, so whether or not they were taking the creation software into account or just gaming, would you stick to the 16gb of RAM or drop it to 8gb? And if so would you stick with your pick of the the RAM only because some didn't know the brand and didn't want to back it.
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January 20, 2012 4:21:39 PM

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