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January 15, 2012 11:52:08 PM

So can you guys choose which one of the two systems seems best:

#1
CPU-AMD Phenom ii x4 960t
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-GTX 560ti Twin Frozr
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard-ASrock 970 Extreme4 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-Cooler Master 600w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-8 Gb Patriot RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case-HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total-$629.94
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#2
CPU-i5 2300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-Radeon HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard-MSI Z68MA-G45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-OCZ 600w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-8 Gb Patriot RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case-HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total-$632.94


Feel free to tell me where I can do better!

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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 12:09:46 AM

The second one seems a bit more balanced and the PSU is better.

The 560TI is definitely a step up from the 6870, though. So a lot of games would probably play better on it, as long as the PSU held up.

Not sure the Cooler Master 600w can handle the 560 TI at full throttle, though.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 1:37:14 AM

I would recommend the 2nd option, only switch the i5 2300 with the i3 2100 or go up to the i5 2400. If you go with the i3 2100, you can then switch to the 560Ti. I'm also concerned with the motherboard, it doesn't have that great of a review.
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 4:53:51 PM

pit_1209 said:
I would stick with the second option but that mobo... check this out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that cpu will be plenty and that gpu, if can´t get an gtx 560 ti you´re good to go anyway

Why go with a $125 ASUS board that is a H67 chipset when you can go with an ASRock Z68 LGA 1155 board for $122 and also with SLI/CF ability with PCIe 3.0?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 16, 2012 6:14:37 PM

agiste101 said:
So can you guys choose which one of the two systems seems best:

#1
CPU-AMD Phenom ii x4 960t
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-GTX 560ti Twin Frozr
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard-ASrock 970 Extreme4 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-Cooler Master 600w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-8 Gb Patriot RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case-HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total-$629.94
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#2
CPU-i5 2300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU-Radeon HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard-MSI Z68MA-G45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU-OCZ 600w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram-8 Gb Patriot RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case-HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total-$632.94


Feel free to tell me where I can do better!

What if for the first one, I replaced the Zosma with Phenom ii x6 1055t.Will it be balanced?
And my budget for these parts is $650
No OS,Hard drive,CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drives,Speakers,Monitor,Mouse and Keyboard.

Total for these:$634.94

And also I dont want to go down to an Intel i3 since I would like to have the quad core capabilities and also I dont want to go to an i5 2500/2500k because I dont think it would make that much difference. :p 
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a b B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 6:41:25 PM

The Pheonom x6 is not as good of a gaming CPU as the i5 2400. The x6 is only good if you are going to do CPU multithread intense stuff, and even then, the i5 will outperform it in most other areas.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=147
As you see, the i5 2400 wins in most single threaded and gaming comparisons.
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January 16, 2012 8:59:31 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
The Pheonom x6 is not as good of a gaming CPU as the i5 2400. The x6 is only good if you are going to do CPU multithread intense stuff, and even then, the i5 will outperform it in most other areas.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=147
As you see, the i5 2400 wins in most single threaded and gaming comparisons.

Can anyone try to suggest a good CPU about that price range.
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 17, 2012 7:33:04 PM

H67 is old, P67 is less old, Z68 is new'ish.

That is why they want you to get a Z68 instead of a H67.

About which range for the CPU?
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January 17, 2012 8:56:05 PM

Raiddinn said:
H67 is old, P67 is less old, Z68 is new'ish.

That is why they want you to get a Z68 instead of a H67.

About which range for the CPU?

Processor budget is about $150/$170
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 17, 2012 8:59:46 PM

If you get a good deal, you might be able to get an i5-2400 for that.

http://tinyurl.com/7aj8g2m

That link from Amazon has one listed for $180 new.

- Edit - I looked around some more and that is the best I found at this moment. You can keep your eyes open for a website selling it for $10 off.
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January 17, 2012 9:33:44 PM

Raiddinn said:
If you get a good deal, you might be able to get an i5-2400 for that.

http://tinyurl.com/7aj8g2m

That link from Amazon has one listed for $180 new.

- Edit - I looked around some more and that is the best I found at this moment. You can keep your eyes open for a website selling it for $10 off.

Ok so I just realized that my budget for the parts could be raised to around $700
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January 17, 2012 10:00:08 PM

So I did some searching around Newegg and found these specs:

CPU-i5 2500k

Mother Board-ASRock Z68 Extreme4

Graphics Card-GTX 560Ti

PSU-CORSAIR 600w

RAM-G Skill 4GB

AND A ROSEWILL CASE.

TOTAL:$701.94

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January 17, 2012 10:26:31 PM

Is it good?
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January 18, 2012 12:41:56 AM

Overclocking=2500k
Not Overclocking=2500(plain)

So I'm not going to overclock so does that mean that the 2500 plain/2400 is the best choice for me?
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 18, 2012 1:13:13 AM

Buy the 2500k in case you change your mind later. You can add like 50% power to it with OCing, potentially keeping it going many more years.
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January 18, 2012 8:50:23 AM

Raiddinn said:
Buy the 2500k in case you change your mind later. You can add like 50% power to it with OCing, potentially keeping it going many more years.

No...I don't expect to actually even want to overclock. :non: 
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 18, 2012 1:09:14 PM

You never know how you will feel 4 years forward. You might be in such a situation that you would rather try OCing instead of shelling out another $200+
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January 18, 2012 1:18:50 PM

Overclocking is very simple with the 2500k's, and they have a much better on board video than the 2500, so if your vid card has to be RMA'd or something, you could still play some games.
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January 18, 2012 7:06:37 PM

Raiddinn said:
You never know how you will feel 4 years forward. You might be in such a situation that you would rather try OCing instead of shelling out another $200+

I dont mind buying a $200 processor in the next couple of years
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January 19, 2012 7:34:17 PM

So is an i5 2500(plain) good enough
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 19, 2012 7:36:03 PM

That is a good processor even if you can't OC it, yes.
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January 22, 2012 6:26:17 PM

Raiddinn said:
That is a good processor even if you can't OC it, yes.

I was checking newegg an realized that this GTX 560: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... was better than the one the gtx 560ti that i selected in everything but the amount of Cores(560=336 cores 560ti=384 cores).Which one do you think would do better?
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January 22, 2012 7:51:25 PM

Do you live near a microcenter? They have the 2500k for $180 in stores.
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 22, 2012 8:35:44 PM

Here is a link that puts two 560TIs vs each other with one of them having ~50 more cores than the other.

That kinda shows the approximate difference between a 560 with 50 less cores and a 560 TI in terms of graphics performance.

Here are some passmark scores where you can look up both as well

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
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January 24, 2012 12:05:18 AM

Raiddinn said:
Here is a link that puts two 560TIs vs each other with one of them having ~50 more cores than the other.

That kinda shows the approximate difference between a 560 with 50 less cores and a 560 TI in terms of graphics performance.

Here are some passmark scores where you can look up both as well

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html


The current form of the build is:
CPU-Intel i5 2500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM-Kingston HyperX Grey Series 8GB(2x4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motheboard-Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU-GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GTX 560 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU-CORSAIR Builder Series 600w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case- :p 

TOTAL-$691.94

Is it good for the price?
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 24, 2012 12:46:31 PM

Sounds fine.
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January 24, 2012 11:08:04 PM

agiste101 said:
The current form of the build is:
CPU-Intel i5 2500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM-Kingston HyperX Grey Series 8GB(2x4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motheboard-Asrock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU-GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GTX 560 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU-CORSAIR Builder Series 600w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case- :p 

TOTAL-$691.94

Is it good for the price?

Seems like a good system,but I would swap the 2500 for a 2400 since there isnt much difference.Other than that is good!!!
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 25, 2012 12:29:42 AM

The 2400 is still 0.2 GBZ less, iirc, and if the money is available I don't see why not to get the extra GHZ.
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January 25, 2012 8:53:47 AM

Raiddinn said:
The 2400 is still 0.2 GBZ less, iirc, and if the money is available I don't see why not to get the extra GHZ.

So I should pay around $20 more for 0.2Ghz... :pt1cable:  :pt1cable:  :pt1cable: 
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 25, 2012 5:48:53 PM

If you don't think it is worth it then don't do it.

Many people would gladly pay $20 for 6% more processing power.

Ask the people paying $999 for the 3960 about their $/GHZ figures.
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January 25, 2012 7:17:47 PM

Raiddinn said:
If you don't think it is worth it then don't do it.

Many people would gladly pay $20 for 6% more processing power.

Ask the people paying $999 for the 3960 about their $/GHZ figures.

I looked at the benchmarks and saw that the difference is barely 5 fps on most games.So I think that I will go with the i5 2400.
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 27, 2012 1:21:29 AM

It isn't going to do 2x 6870s, maybe 2x 6850s though.

There are only 2 PCIE connectors so if you want to use 2 cards with it you have to get cards with only 1 PCIE connector.

6870s have 2. I am pretty sure 6850s only have 1.
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