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January 16, 2012 12:56:11 AM

Hello again everyone.

It has been a long time since I posted so I feel that now is the time to do so again, since I am in a better situation to do the much needed upgrade I asked about in the past.

So following forum rules my current setup is as follows:

Asus M2N-Sli Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ 2.7GHz
4 Gigs G.Skill Pc2-6400 Ram
HIS IceQ Radeon 4670 1gig HD
Running Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit
500Watt Antec Earthwatts PSU

Looking to do a decent upgrade(Aside from Graphics as money doesn't allow that upgrade yet), I am currently looking into these particular parts as they fit well into my budget. *Note, This will be an upgrade on 2 pc's with near identical spec's*
Also, it should be noted that I will be using this system for gaming and streaming.

Interested in these particular parts, and I guess the info I seek is compatibility with one another and with the GPU listed above, also will be reusing current HD's as a way to save a little cash.

Alright here is the complete part list I am looking into.

Motherboard... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Processor... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would love to jump into the 6000 series Amd cards, but will have to wait a little longer to do so.

Anyways, any information and tips would be appreciated.

Thanks :) 

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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 1:25:24 AM

I would pass on the Zambezi if I were you.

You might be better off switching to an Intel build with a 2120 processor instead of the ones you have chosen.

The Bulldozer processors (AMD FX-xxxx) are not tremendously good. They have low instructions per clock cycle compared to Intel. The 4 core 2500 is better than the 8 core FX-8150 and the 2 core 2120 probably beats the 4100 too.

If you want to stick with AMD you might go with a 955+ processor instead of the FX.

- Edit - You may want to drop back to Kingston or Crucial 1333 RAM instead of 1600 RAM since that motherboard doesn't natively support 1600. It may cause configuration issues.
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a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 1:48:18 AM

RAM costs so little as it is. It is also the thing that causes the most trouble with new builds.

I can't find any good reason to go with brands other than the ones with the lowest failure rates (Crucial and possibly Kingston).
January 16, 2012 1:51:18 AM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Looks good, however, make sure the motherboard BIOS is updated to support the FX CPUs, most AM3+ motherboards require a BIOS flash to use, which requires another AMD AM3 socket CPU.

You can also go with a cheaper 8GB RAM bundle:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Well it seems like a couple of the reviews have stated that it booted without issues when the FX-4100 was loaded. So I am hoping I don't have that issue if I do choose this cpu, especially if I don't have a spare cpu kicking around that can be flashed with the mobo. How can I tell if it is the most current Bios to work with that particular Cpu?
January 16, 2012 1:54:53 AM

Raiddinn said:
I would pass on the Zambezi if I were you.

You might be better off switching to an Intel build with a 2120 processor instead of the ones you have chosen.

The Bulldozer processors (AMD FX-xxxx) are not tremendously good. They have low instructions per clock cycle compared to Intel. The 4 core 2500 is better than the 8 core FX-8150 and the 2 core 2120 probably beats the 4100 too.

If you want to stick with AMD you might go with a 955+ processor instead of the FX.

- Edit - You may want to drop back to Kingston or Crucial 1333 RAM instead of 1600 RAM since that motherboard doesn't natively support 1600. It may cause configuration issues.


Believe me I have considered an Intel build, but it is slightly out of my price range. Wouldn't have minded a 2500k but boy they sure are pricey.

And to be quite honest I am a bit of an AMD fanboy, such stable quality over the past few years.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 2:01:06 AM

oldgamer78 said:
Well it seems like a couple of the reviews have stated that it booted without issues when the FX-4100 was loaded. So I am hoping I don't have that issue if I do choose this cpu, especially if I don't have a spare cpu kicking around that can be flashed with the mobo. How can I tell if it is the most current Bios to work with that particular Cpu?

It looks like the ASRock board will support it...

@Raiddinn In the past, these are the brands that I trust:
Patriot, Crucial, PNY, G.Skill, Corsair, and Kingston
a c 78 B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 3:22:31 AM

RoaringDragon - It has more to do with what has the highest failure rates for everybody rather than what did well in your particular case.

OP - I would still take a Phenom 2 x4 over the Zambezi.
a b B Homebuilt system
January 16, 2012 5:03:07 PM

Raiddinn said:
RoaringDragon - It has more to do with what has the highest failure rates for everybody rather than what did well in your particular case.

OP - I would still take a Phenom 2 x4 over the Zambezi.

I agree with the Phenom II, it's a great CPU and imo, it's better than the FX line.

As for the RAM, I didn't say "This RAM didn't fail for me", in fact, I've only had PNY RAM and G.Skill RAM (I've never used the PNY RAM because it was in my dad's system). I gave those brands because they have the higher ratings on NewEgg, especially the G.Skill RAM
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