as I'm starting to get really tired of my shitty laptop i don't think I will wait until 7000/600 series.
So, what do you guys think I should do? buy i5 2500k and use integrated graphics until 7000/600 are out, or buy 570 together with it now? I'm probably going to use this build for 3-4 years, and I'm going to buy 120Hz monitor.
The graphics on the i5 2500k were enough for me to run Rift for example at 1920x1080 at about 25-30fps on the low settings.
So I think you will be fine with it if you wish to wait for the 7000 series, generally it beats the crap out of bad laptop graphics...
The high end of the 7000 series is out anyway, not sure if you can get it in your country yet, but they are out there.
However: depending on how long you have to wait, Ivy bridge is also coming out so if you wait for one, should probably wait for the other a well, which should be in Q2 2012 (April/May).
thanks for the reply
i can get 7970 in my country it is just so expensive now.
ivy bridge sounds great but i dont think 2500k will bottleneck any of the 7000/600 cards, unless i do sli or CF.
does anyone know if the prices of 7000/600 will go town to what 6000/500 costs now?
It is unlikely that 7970 will go down from it's current place for quite a while now I would guestimate at least 6 months. Since it is going head to head and even beating the 6990 and GTX590. Also GTX580 with a larger margin.
The best bet for a more affordable solution is the 7950 which would of course not have quite the same performance.
And it is unknown at the moment when those will be available.
2500k bottlenecks with GTX580 Tri SLI onwards on some titles. And i don't think it causes any bottlenecks with the TriFIRE 6970 solutions, so probably the 2500k would be ok with 7970 Crossfire as well.
Unless you gonna wait til June or later when the tweaked non reference boards come out, I'd do the 2500k, P67 or Z68 and one or two of these ...... two will give ya 40% more fps (862 fps in Guru3D game test suite) than a single 580 (616 fps) for less money.
To give ya an idea of what peeps are buying, as of December, this is what's hitting Steam servers as a % of total (Only DX11, current generation cards nVidia 5xx / AMD 69xx) listed in this bunch). The 7xx series isn't listed as they don't show up in th December survey and ya can't buy them on newegg.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 8.81%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 4.35%
ATI Radeon HD 6950 3.53%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3.14%
ATI Radeon HD 6970 1.89%
Overall, DX10 cards retain twice as much market share (61%) as DX11 cards (31%)
Overall, the 560 is the highest selling current generation card, coming in 8th place overall .... the 6950 comes in 22nd ...... here's the top 8 cards
The integrated graphics on a 2500K is perhaps about the power of a $40 graphics card. Good for everything but fast action gaming.
The ivy bridge graphics due in april will be much better.
If you want gaming, then the graphics is all important.
You will get fair value at every price point.
If you want more than a GTX580, then you are looking at the 28nm cards, the 7970 is available soon, the nvidia a quarter later. They will be pricey.
Here are my thoughts on cf/sli
Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.
1) How good do you really need to be?
A single GTX560 or 6870 can give you great performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
A single GTX560ti or 6950 will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
Even 2560 x 1600 will be good with lowered detail.
A single 7970 is about as good as it gets.
Only if you are looking at triple monitor gaming, then sli/cf will be needed.
2) The costs for a single card are lower.
You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
Even a ITX motherboard will do.
Your psu costs are less.
A GTX560ti needs a 450w psu, even a GTX580 only needs a 600w psu.
When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 150-200w to your psu requirements.
Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
That means a more expensive case with more and stronger fans.
You will also look at more noise.
4) dual card support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.
5) cf/sli up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
I think the 2500K with a modest OC will drive any sane graphics configuration for a good long time.
With a Z68 motherboard, you could see how you do with integrated graphics. Adding a graphics card later is no big deal, and component prices will still be giving you better price performance over time, so there is no real neeed to rush to purchase.
OTOH, A GTX570 is a good card for a single monitor.