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November 18, 2011 9:15:30 AM


Hi new to Tom's hardware as a member but been using the card reviews as a guild for sometime now.

I'm looking to buy a graphics card that will last me for the year or so.

I've just sold my GTS 250 and my HD 4870 and got just over £100 to spend on a future proof gaming card.

I've had my eye on the GTX 460 model and would go for a Factory OC as i would not like to do it my self.

I've been offered a GTX 550 Ti SC (01G-P3-1557-KR) for £100 but not sure if its a good deal
I know the card is better than the one's I've got now but would I be money well spent.

Please could i have advice on Nvidia & ATI cards please and the reason why you would recommend such card.

cards I've been looking at are GTX 460 470 480 570 HD 5870 6790 6870 6950

If you recommend a card could you also give a max price you would pay as i also want value for money.

Thanks for reading.

PC Spec - Windows 7 64 1TB+ 4GB DDR2 Core 2 Duo 8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.17GHz (new rig next year build around graphics)

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a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:22:33 AM

I'd say the best bang for your buck would be the 6850.It's slightly out of your budget but it's well worth it,imo.

Sapphire 6850

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11180-00-40R-6850-GDDR...

The 6850 is a little faster than the GTX460 but it also has improved DX11 support and improved Crossfire scaling.
Because of your current system I would advise getting anything more powerful than a 6850.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:33:49 AM

If you're going to use the gpu in the next year new rig i would go at least for a 6950/560Ti or 570. ( if i had the money the 570 ) Or wait for the new gen coming next year.

Don't understand this though ; you say you want a card for just one year but also that you build your new rig around this graphic card ?
Also your budget is 100 $ but you even think of the 570 ?
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a c 130 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:34:29 AM

Around that price range you are realistically looking at putting a bit extra if possible, or you may find a deal online ?
Anyway for about £112-£125 ish you have a choice between the 6870 or the 560. The performance however varies between game and resolution so take a look at this review and see which card would fit your games and resolution.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_560...

Mactronix :) 
PS as you will see the card is overclocked but there is a referance baseline in the reviews ;) 
a b U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:40:56 AM

I second the 6850. It is the best bang for the buck(pound) card out there right now. As for myself, I am getting along just fine with an overclocked 6670 card. I am also only running a 19" WS Samsung monitor at 1440x900 if that helps.
November 18, 2011 9:43:50 AM

ccx1985 said:
Hi new to Tom's hardware as a member but been using the card reviews as a guild for sometime now.

I'm looking to buy a graphics card that will last me for the year or so.

I've just sold my GTS 250 and my HD 4870 and got just over £100 to spend on a future proof gaming card.

I've had my eye on the GTX 460 model and would go for a Factory OC as i would not like to do it my self.

I've been offered a GTX 550 Ti SC (01G-P3-1557-KR) for £100 but not sure if its a good deal
I know the card is better than the one's I've got now but would I be money well spent.

Please could i have advice on Nvidia & ATI cards please and the reason why you would recommend such card.

cards I've been looking at are GTX 460 470 480 570 HD 5870 6790 6870 6950

If you recommend a card could you also give a max price you would pay as i also want value for money.

Thanks for reading.

PC Spec - Windows 7 64 1TB+ 4GB DDR2 Core 2 Duo 8500 @ 3.16GHz 3.17GHz (new rig next year build around graphics)

Again, there is no such thing as "future proof" in computing. Especially in your price range.
a c 143 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:47:31 AM

ccx1985 said:
cards I've been looking at are GTX 460 470 480 570 HD 5870 6790 6870 6950

GTX 570 > GTX 480 > HD 6950 > HD 5870 > HD 6870 > GTX 460 > HD 6790.
November 18, 2011 9:56:10 AM

GreenDutchAlien said:
If you're going to use the gpu in the next year new rig i would go at least for a 6950/560Ti or 570. ( if i had the money the 570 ) Or wait for the new gen coming next year.

Don't understand this though ; you say you want a card for just one year but also that you build your new rig around this graphic card ?
Also your budget is 100 $ but you even think of the 570 ?



Hi thanks for your comments, I am planing to build a new pc around gaming and if i got a card now i would like to keep it for a year two at most and seal it on but still hold its value so i can use the money to put towards a better card.

I've looked at 570 there not cheap!
November 18, 2011 10:05:15 AM

GTX 570 > GTX 480 > HD 6950 > HD 5870 > HD 6870 > GTX 460 > HD 6790.

does this mean the order in which card you would recommend.

GTX 570 1st HD 6790 last.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 10:06:19 AM

Your biggest problem is the 100$ budget, you won't find a modern good mid-high end card for that.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 10:07:50 AM

Yep, that order does he mean, or which is strongest and which is weakest. ( 570 being most powerfull )
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 10:46:36 AM

You can always crossfire the 6850 in a year or so.
But I would have to agree with everyone else that building your PC around a GPU doesn't make much sense.It's usually the other way around and GPU's change a lot more often than CPU's.
November 18, 2011 11:07:26 AM

purple stank said:
You can always crossfire the 6850 in a year or so.
But I would have to agree with everyone else that building your PC around a GPU doesn't make much sense.It's usually the other way around and GPU's change a lot more often than CPU's.



So i should be building my PC around a New CPU! anything from an i3 upwards is what i was going to look for with 8GB and at lest 2 full PCI-E slots.
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 11:30:15 AM

That sounds like a great start but for someone on a tight budget Intel isn't really the way to go.Everything is considerably more expensive on the Intel side.
a b U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 12:06:17 PM

An i3 2100 + a 560 or HD6870 would be an incredible place to start. i3 is great for gaming and the Intel socket gives you option to upgrade to quad in the future. The 560 or 6870 are equal in gaming and will last you another year at least for gaming on high settings.
a c 143 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 2:07:01 PM

I'm not recommending any, you jsut said you have been looking into those cards so i ordered them from the strongest to he weakest and almost GTX 570 = GTX 480.

If you have the C2D E8500, this CPU performs similar to X4 955 BE in gaming, but won't deny the fact that you need a strong Quad Core CPU.

£100 is around $160 right ? this can get you a HD 6870
November 18, 2011 2:17:10 PM

I agree.... 6870 is the best budget cards. And there is mail in rebates. Should be able to get one for 149.99 after rebates.
November 18, 2011 2:28:24 PM

Remember - if the build requires a hard drive, do a Google Shopping search.

:) 
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 3:04:18 PM

£100 is closer to $130.And don't forget the price inflation outside of the U.S.Which makes the 6850 seem like more of the only choice that you can still get your moneys worth out of.In fact that Sapphire 6850 I listed above was the cheapest I could find on Amazon and it sells for £120.
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 3:46:57 PM

Nice find.I only know the Amazon.uk website.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 3:47:32 PM

Meh, plus 7,99 shipping while amazon does it for free. So 117,21 in total :heink:  Yeah, saved you 2 pound something . . . :pfff: 
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 3:52:20 PM

I'd rather go for the Sapphire card anyway because Sapphire usually includes lots of accessories.XFX has started to get singey with their accessories.They don't even include a crossfire bridge anymore.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 3:59:00 PM

They did with my 6870. But maybe because it's a black edition, came with a lot of nonsense.
For the 3 pounds extra i would buy from Amazon rather than my link. Don't know anything about that shop.
November 18, 2011 7:12:14 PM


Hi thanks for all your reply's very useful.

I know you all have been leaning towards a HD 6850 or if i have the money a HD 6870

But could i ask which one out of these both nearly new and been offered to me by a friend.

£100 $157
http://benchmarks-reviews.com/video_graphics_cards/Poin...

£100 $157
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=01G-P3-155...

I can buy either of these cards today!

which one is better out the two and then tell me what you would get instead if not either of these.

Thanks
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 7:19:56 PM

GTX 460 is a great card, way better than the 550.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 7:21:20 PM

And just alittle bit slower than the 6850, if you can find it for 100 pounds go for it.
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 7:36:11 PM

Oeps, missed the oc part :whistle:  Even better. Not sure i like the second hand risk though. Know your friend well ?
November 18, 2011 8:27:33 PM


Hi last one tonight i can get an ex-display (sold as new) XFX HD6870 Double Dissipation for £100 ($157)!

it comes with 3 months Warranty with seller plus a few years with manufacture.

http://xfxforce.com/en-us/Features/DoubleDissipation.as...

http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/graphiccards/hd%2060...

not sure ther model number as yet waiting to hear back but its either

HD-687A-ZDFC

or if i'm lucky

HD-687A-ZDDC

both cards are 2.1 PCI-E can a PCI-E 2.0 be upgraded or will my board still work

ASUS P5Q SE - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5Q_S...

Thanks
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 18, 2011 9:01:38 PM

Well those 2 links really only show one card.The first link is just marketing for their dual fan design.They have that on every one of their cards from the 6850 and up.The second link is a 2GB version of the 6870.

Your mobo supports 2.0 so you will have no problem running these cards.
November 19, 2011 7:43:39 AM


What spec card would you buy please look as both cards are factory over-clocked or even super clocked I'm leaning towards the 460 but either cards is mine for £100

nVidia
Series: nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1GB
GPU: GF104
Release Date: 2010-07-12
Interface: PCI-E 2.0 x16
Core Clock: 820 MHz
Memory Clock: 2000 MHz (4000 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 128 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 275520 MOperations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 26240 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 45920 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 68880 MVertices/sec


nVidia
Series: nVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti
GPU: GF116
Release Date: 2011-03-15
Interface: PCI-E 2.0 x16
Core Clock: 985 MHz
Shader Clock: 1885 MHz
Memory Clock: 2255 MHz (4510 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 108.2 GB/sec
FLOPS: 723.84 GFLOPS
Pixel Fill Rate: 23640 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 31520 MTexels/sec

Thanks
a c 104 U Graphics card
November 19, 2011 8:48:40 AM

GTX460, the numbers speak for themselves. Benchmarks also.
a c 214 U Graphics card
November 19, 2011 6:42:00 PM

^+1
a c 272 U Graphics card
November 24, 2011 12:17:35 PM

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